Leonard Venkhater

Proven failures, indeed. I am trying to think of any success brought by Gallagher on the right, yet TM continues to repeat the selection. I agree we are "bound" to try. I actually gave up believing at Derby. Lockdown brought naive sense of hope and Wigan screamed unbelief..

This also begs the question re TM's skill in the market and how optimistic we can be around the significant additions required. I have been reading people's analyses of TM's transfer dealings and what percentage of successful buys should be considered a good return etc. Statistics are one thing, but my own actual spectator experience is that TM's dealings do contain too much in the way of disappointments/dross...Johnson, Gallagher, Brereton, Samuel, Rothwell, Bell, Hart, Gladwin and Chapman all fit into that category for me. It is a significant worry for the future.

Agreed. So much for TM's long term building strategy

It wasn't a putdown or anything. I meant it.....starting to test my patience indeed! I think he is shit...there...said it....

Brilliant, that. Understatement is such a tonic- especially when I am raging!

Good idea...I would like to hear Arbitro's analysis of that infamous decision by a certain Spennymoor headmaster at Selhurst.... Also -under the heading of "Possible Atonement"- his comments on the high number of penalties awarded to Rovers in the 3(?) Rovers games he refereed after 1989!

Now that is very funny... One of my wife's elderly aunties referred to Philip Schofield, as "coming out of the press!"

So, as a child, you were sent to the shop for "messages", which you put away in the "press"?

That, at least, is something! The cardboard cut-outs, however, are another. What an ill-advised stunt it was, and as for the one of Jack, next to them, talk about not being in tune with the local fan base.

A great win. Recovered from a sucker punch and having a goal disallowed too. Wigan will be a big test. How I have learned to despise them!

Slaughtered! But as for Giggs saying Hart "went too far", I guess his own brother might say a similar thing about him!

Well done, everyone. This is a brilliant thread. I remember so many of these games very well. And I love the biblical hordes in the old fashioned Blackburn End...

OMG! Must have missed that. I assume that was a game in which he made a boob? (An embarrassment of hubris is right up there up there with a murder of crows..)

What happened in the tunnel?

Everything before "but" is bullshit lol

Alan Myers? Now there is someone with a Ph.D. in Venky Apologism! "Handshakes replacing snowballs" and other on-line gainsaying of any supporter criticism of the Raos.... He makes me bloody sick. How dare a mere PR pillock presume to reconcile fans of this historic club into accepting the unacceptable? What if this had happened to his beloved Everton? " If ya know yer 'istory" indeed!

Yes, I think Walton has made a few memorable mistakes-probably not as many as Gallagher, although obviously more costly. As for Brereton, most of us are so des[perate that we alight on any small crumb of hope. Yesterday's slip was so cruel in the circumstances.

I would agree everywhere except upfront, where I feel we have mediocrity in depth. Gallagher, Samuel and Brereton are not promotion material. As for promotion, stranger things have happened (on Fantasy Island)

But I think one of Trevor Eve's later roles would be far more appropriate-certainly for Gallagher and Brereton and probably for our whole stadium.."Waking the Dead"..

As a season ticket holder, I must say I do have sympathy with the club, especially losing two big money makers in the Leeds and WBA games. I can even stomach not receiving any refund, but the idea of paying for a cardboard cut out of myself-£25.00 or £45.00 for one in pride of place- seems a wee bit tacky. I wonder if we could get giant ones of Steve Kean/Jerome Anderson/Owen Coyle? How the mighty have fallen!

Lol...Messageboard!

Interesting reading between the lines about his views on the current coaching set up (not TM)...which delayed Ryan Nyambe's progress... Hodgson's signings were not rated by the other players and there was clearly a bad atmosphere in that relegation season. And doesn't he just love Brian Kidd!!

And we certainly did!

Not sure about the persuasion of "numerous managers". Take Samuel, for instance. He has been given contracts by Reading and Rovers and been loaned out 5 times. Of his 21 goals, 8 have been scored at Championship level ( after a quick scan of Wiki!) Brereton is interesting in that he made 53 appearances for Forest, as a very young player, indeed. So they must have thought he was good, (but not necessarily £7 million good lol) Meanwhile, Sam Gallagher seems to have enjoyed his best-ever return as a very young player in a piss poor, Owen Coyle Rovers team.

I think " the football family" is indeed sentimental nonsense. It is all about dog- eat- dog Darwinism and greed. Any help would only be forthcoming, if it were in the interests of the "giver".