In terms of current form we're miles away from playing promotion earning football.

Physical fitness, or more to the point, the lack of it, impinges on your mental fitness as well. A relatively fresh Holtby was mentally fitter than the Luton defence yesterday and his quicker reactions led to our goal. Would he have been that sharp if he'd have played 85 minutes ?

That's what happened in Kipre's case though.

They didn't have better players when he went there. The thing was he had a plan.

So If I knocked on your door tonight and said - " I've just opened a new warehouse and I could do with a stand by fork truck driver. You can work days, they're brand new trucks, it's a heated warehouse, you just take over if one of the other lads is off sick other than that get your feet up in the canteen. Oh, and by the way I'm doubling your wages ". I presume you'd tell me to do one.

It depends who's managing them. Dyche would have them roughly were Burnley are now.

Channel 4 made a great job of covering the 2005 series. For a month or two it became the talking point of the nation.

Yes but is he as fast as Magloire ?

It's just a job to 80% of players. If you can get paid for not playing it's better than getting paid for actually turning out and getting injured, slagged off from the manager, abused on the internet etc.

I like to see a confident player Ben. Good luck next week against QPR, if you get selected that is.

Hilton Valentine, guitarist with The Animals. Responsible for the memorable intro on " House Of The Rising Sun ". A very under rated player. RIP.

Most of the time " not knowing our best team or formation " and " playing poorly " go hand in hand. Looking at Dyche and that lot the secret of getting a group of pretty ordinary players to over achieve is to play the same way with the same players every week. I don't watch the dingles but I always look at the team sheets in the paper and I've more chance of naming their team before a game than I ever have of naming ours !

We're not playing well enough to get into the top six. That'll have to change first for us to have any chance. We subbed off 4 players yesterday for tactical reasons. That tells me we still don't know our best team. We could play the four that came on in the next game and the chances are they'd get subbed off for 4 more players.

I agree, he looks a very good attacking player but if he's a full back I'd like to see what he's like as a defender also.

Yes I see they've got him playing were we had Dack playing before his injury.

I'd just like to see what he can do in his own half. All I've seen on the video is attacking play. I'd like to see a few one on ones versus an attacking player, a few contested headers etc. Going off that clip you'd think he was a winger.

Sounds like you could have done with him today.

I got a text from my son at the final whistle - " Well that wasn't pretty was it ? " Let's call a spade a spade.

Howard Kendall would have got us promoted.

That'll be a lot worse out there. It's not a pitch for short passing tippy tappy stuff.

Me too.

Another Alan Wright would do me but once you've seen Keith Newton in his prime you've been spoiled for life. A class act in every aspect of full back play.

Mm, " Technical ability ", how much technical ability did the likes of Mick Heaton or Jim Branigan have ? Bloody difficult full backs to play against though

Yes, I see what you did there. I had a great LP with all those on, Blue Oyster Cult, Kansas, Quarterflash etc American stadium rock style stuff. Thinking about it, here's one from Venkies for Tony Mowbray - " Carry On My Wayward Son ". I think that was Kansas.

If I see the word " journey " again I'll scream. The only " journey " I want Rothwell to be on is from our half to their half.