They are in Scotland for the best part of a week and the likelihood is they will play a game in that time I have been told.

The likes of Waggott wouldn't know 'thorough' if it bit him in the balls. I get the impression there is a culture of idleness amongst the senior managers down there. Take season tickets as an example. It appears that very little or no research was done amongst current and lapsed ticket holders. So they come up with a same price offer with a £30 extra charge for not renewing by a certain date. Then realisation kicks in, probably based on low sales and they extend the deadline and come up with an ingenious family ticket offer which is blown out of the water by similar Championship clubs. I used to think we were treading water with this lot. Now I believe we are drowning.

When can we expect a six week warning from Rovers of an impending appointment?

There are far too many variables right now to make a call on anything. Right now we have no manager, probably not enough decent players to put a team out and no real planning done amongst other things. Throw the incompetence of Waggott, Pasha and the owners and it doesn't paint a good picture.

We already have a de facto DoF in Pasha who everything has to be run by and by the sound of things is the only person with anything near autonomy to make decisions. The whole sorry saga is a mess and sadly will never improve whilst that lot are here in my view.

Chorley have brought out a pre season shirt which is something I've never heard of. It's quite innovative really and for a non league club to think of it is a feather in their caps.

Class from the Wales players and staff who went to the area where the Ukraine supporters were and applauded them for a couple of minutes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61681762 Real Madrid also have pertinent questions of EUFA around the organisation and policing in the CL final. And they confirm their fans were 'victims of said events' too dispelling the story that there was no trouble at the Madrid end of the ground.

He's isolating in one of the dungeons.😂😂 They seriously expected to believe guff like that though.

Liverpool's Academy doesn't just produce good players but good coaches too. Steve Cooper, Michael Beale and Ian Critchley have all worked there in the recent past.

How prophetic will the title of this thread become?

I don't know for sure but people closer to the organisation than me (who don't post on here) tell me he is second in the chain of command after the owners. I think Mowbray inadvertently confirmed this when he said he hadn't spoken direct to the owners for a considerable time but he had spoken to Pasha regularly. I'm also told that he is paid directly by Venkys. And we haven't even heard his voice.

You've omitted Pasha from your reply. Apparently he is the one who makes the decisions and is, by extension a Venky.

So the deal is try and bring in a quality manager who will probably get the juices flowing, sell more season tickets and give us some hope and optimism. But the caveat is that you have to work with our pound shop coaches. Isn't that absolutely typical of the last twelve years.

I really enjoyed watching Ukraine tonight as they played some terrific stuff with Zinchenko absolutely outstanding. Some understandably emotional scenes as they celebrated at the end.

I was still an active referee when he was at Reading and came across him several times and he struck me as arrogant and entitled. When I was assessing I worked on some games with Mick McGuire who at the time was Deputy CEO of the PFA and had had many dealings with Pardew. His name came up in a conversation one day and Mick said "if he was made of chocolate he would eat himself". I always think of that quote whenever I hear mention of his name.

Is that fact of hearsay Tom?

Angry and upset - you have made the wrong assumption about me there. My comment was a generalisation covering the whole spectrum of our fan base (and people in general).

And everybody handles it differently, some with anger, frustration, disgust or like you just roll with it. Telling people to chill is quite antagonist when they are not of that ilk.

They've run DOWN a multi million pound successful business here Paul. There is absolutely no synergy between how they run their other businesses and how they run Rovers. That is one of my real frustrations over the last decade.

Looking at that picture could it be Tony Diamond?

He did say June 6th but he didn't say which year though. 😆😆

I don't think they have but it appears they have identified a target and gone for them whereas we have interviewed lots and are still buggering about.

And there is the rub. We have had twelve years of incompetence, downsizing, failure and disappointment with this lot. Why would anybody believe that all of a sudden things are better? Nothing has changed - we are light years away from where we were when they took over and they haven't learnt anything in that time. Why would any self respecting manager want to work here after being interviewed by the likes of Waggott and Pasha? Reality took over with me ages ago and my faith in them is zero.

A pure guess would be Andy Kennedy.