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16. Didn’t read the Champions League question properly.

Ask him to bring Akinfenwa with him. He’d be more use than Gallagher and Brereton.

Disgraceful half that! Midfield 3 a joke, Elliott a luxury we can’t afford, Gallagher and Brereton both brainless, limited and totally unsuited to how we play, JRC struggled enormously defensively and once again looked like an winger being played out of position. Plus point is Lenihan and Harwood-Bellis have stood up to the physical test pretty well.

Of course not! Just amazing how many still not only buy into his bullshit but try to help spin it.

Yep! And they have to keep the parent clubs happy.

So despite the fact Mowbray has been talking about how the next few games will “shape our transfers” this summer, and we’d be giving some of the young lads a go, 7 of the starting 11 aren’t contracted beyond the end of the season.

It’s definitely indifferent Friday. I expect to be mildly annoyed before kickoff due to some head scratching selections, but this will give way to being fairly pleased at getting three points. Im resigned to the fact we will just stumble on to the end of the season, but I really hope we have changes in the dugout and the boardroom over the summer.

Link to Telegraph Story Interesting timing... Talk of differences of opinion with the likes of Ayala and Pickering, and then there’s the ongoing training ground saga. Also strange considering we have constantly been told about how much work (and money) has gone into building the recruitment team over the last few years, not to mention they have the biggest job in recent memory on this summer. If someone would choose to go to Sunderland - consistently the biggest basket case of a club for the last few years, it may suggest not all is as rosy at Ewood and Brockhall as some would have believe. Hope this doesn’t mean the Coventrio is about to become the Coventry Quartet.

From his point of view he may be worried about being played out of position. He’s been widely quoted as stating he sees himself as a winger/wide forward. Perhaps there’s some concern that playing at full back may prevent him from realising his full potential?

“I am very much opposed to this development. It is not, in any way, an attempt by BRFC to integrate itself with this village and the surrounding area. Quite the opposite, you will alienate us all. It appears to be a financial strategy to ease the club’s downward spiralling poor financial position (by selling its existing training assets to build houses) caused by poor management in recent years.” Mr Carl Allen of the Brockhall residents group clearly gets it.

No, the answer is getting in a better manager, and CEO for that matter. If we are making the most of what we have currently though, playing players in their actual positions helps.

If we played Gallagher as a centre forward, with JRC on the wing putting in crosses to him, I expect they have their days a lot more often.

Today again showing we have good players who have underperformed this season. JRC looks like a top drawer winger. Gallagher showing what he can do with a decent delivery when he is in the box. As much grief as I’ve give Lenihan over the last 12 months he showed he can defend today. Kaminski with some great saves. When we did the simple things that come naturally to players, we look good. If we lost the stupid, stubborn insistence on playing people out of position to fit in this stupid system a while ago, a point today might have been an important one rather than being irrelevant.

I’d say that’s actually pretty high numbers against for a Twitter poll. You only need to look at where the votes went in the legends 11 poll the club ran a while back to see how much recency bias and shallow knowledge exists on that platform. If/when Rovers Trust poll their paid up members I guarantee the results would be very different.

That’s the Community Trust. Different entity that is run by the club. Rovers Trust is an independent supporters trust.

If there were people out there oblivious to what was going on with the training ground, I’d have pointed them here immediately. However, were you to do that now, anyone reading the past couple of pages would see all the squabbles and nonsense and likely dismiss any of the concerns previously raised. This thread needs putting back on the rails pronto.

It must be Mowbray, being as how he’s such a man of integrity. If there was any interference from the owners surely he would walk.

Plenty of players will feel very aggrieved at being dropped. Dolan and Buckley especially, but Trybull should be annoyed too. Says a lot when nobody raises an eyebrow at Nyambe being dropped to play an attacking player out of position. There is absolutely no good argument for keeping Mowbray on until the end of the season. The players with the expiring contracts who are worth keeping don’t seem to have any intentions on signing new deals. A new manager might change that. Drain the bloody swamp. Hopefully halt the exodus of players, give us a sliver of hope, save Brockhall and respect Jack’s legacy.

Tell you what would be reinvigorating, a message from the club along the following lines... “It’s been far too long since we’ve had supporters at Ewood, and we can’t wait until the start of the new campaign to welcome you all back here. We are delighted to announce our first pre-season friendly against (insert marquee European opposition here) will take place at Ewood Park, and we want to see you all there! Entry is FREE to anyone with a ticket buying history on our database (subject to crowd restrictions and availability, first come first served) and we will be providing free coach travel from numerous destinations to and from the game. This will be the first game in charge for our new manager (insert name of someone exciting and dynamic here) and a chance for you to catch a first glimpse of our new signings a, b and c. We will be launching our new home and away kits on the day, and they will be available to purchase at the Rovers Store and our pop up kiosks around the ground, along with the rest of our exciting new merchandise range. Sign up for a season ticket and receive 20% off the purchase of any shirt. We’ve taken onboard your feedback, and in addition to our improved kiosk catering, we have teamed up with a host of local vendors to offer you a variety of different food options in and around the ground, including this, that and the other. You can also sample a selection of craft ales and ciders at our newly installed beer tents. To really make this a day to remember we will have music from local bands the Illicits and the Ruby Tuesday’s at our stage outside the Blackburn end from 12:00, and on the pitch at half time. Players x and y will be available for photos and autographs from 12-1pm, and you can have your photograph taken with the premier league trophy. We recognise how difficult the last 18 months have been, and how important your support is to us. Season tickets will be available on the day priced from £200 for adults in all areas except the Jack Walker Upper central, priced at £350. We also have our first ever “pay as you go” season ticket where you pay an initial £50 for the season and then just £10 per game thereafter. No commitments or credit checks. We’ve also got a special video message from the owners, where they will outline their hopes and plans for the upcoming season.” What we will get... “Season tickets have to go up to £600. They have been too cheap for years and we need the money. They will be on sale before the season starts. The kit will be out in a few weeks. It’s probably blue and white. Catering is a pain, so unless you buy your tickets a day before, you have to pay an extra 3 quid. We will stick sky sports on at the ground, play Bohemian Like You by The Dandy Warhols, and charge you the best part of a fiver for a flat pint of Carlsberg. #wearetogether

I applaud any fans taking the initiative to try and do things for the benefit of the club. We have some really dedicated, creative and hard working fans doing all sorts of different things. However, it’s a piss poor show that the club offer little or no encouragement or show any willingness to work with fans. The dumbing down and lowering of standards shows no sign of slowing any time soon. Lets look at their recent record... - Poor season ticket sales pre-pandemic, horrific season ticket sales during - Divisive marketing strategies - Failed raffles - Dreadful stadium catering - Prohibitive surcharges on match day tickets - All fans removed from DE lower tier - Families moved out of BBE upper tier - Town centre club shop gone - Radio Rovers no more - Failure to comply with EFL rules on supporter consultation - Legends Lounge gone - Ground in a state of disrepair and filth - Blues Bar shut bar a few hours on match day - Next on the list, senior training centre turned into houses And that’s before we get onto goings on on the pitch, or the £200 million (and growing) albatross. Steve “we’ve done all we can” Waggott is only interested in milking the ever dwindling hardcore. Mike “you should be grateful” Cheston views all of us with nothing but disdain. All the while their “humble, honourable, committed and supportive” bosses continue to leave us serfs with many more questions than answers. But it’s alright, just stick #wearetogether on the end of everything.

This is exactly how I feel. I will be delighted when Waggott finally goes. The man is as useless as he is untrustworthy, and totally out of his depth. Quite a bit of talk about him and his harebrained scheme on tonight’s Rovers Radio show https://roversradio.co.uk/listen-live From 6pm

If Venky’s hadn’t completely mismanaged us for a decade, I doubt we’d be talking about doomsday scenarios. We were about as far from “well and truly fooked” as was possible before they rocked up. Bury is one comparison that everyone seems to like making. It does the club a massive disservice. If the worst came to the worst, why wouldn’t we end up like QPR, Barnsley, Ipswich, Leicester, Rotherham, Leeds, Luton, Bournemouth, Portsmouth, Southampton or Crystal Palace? They’ve all been in admin in recent years. The only similarity between Rovers and Bury is geographical. We are an entirely different, and better proposition in every measurable way.

Really interesting. I suppose it just goes to show that there are different outlooks in every fanbase, and that perceptions from the outside aren’t always completely accurate. I’ve also seen they have put out a breakdown of Forest’s recent accounts. They look quite familiar! Interestingly though the Forest owners are seen as irresponsible and bonkers, their input appears to be very similar to Venky’s who are widely seen as supportive and benevolent.

Questions I would like to put to Waggott. 1. In your recent communication you disingenuously stated that the facilities at Brockhall are 30 years old, and implied they needed upgrading. - Specifically, which facilities are “tired” or outdated? - What will they be upgraded to? - If the facilities are not up to standard how did we maintain Cat 1 status? Burnley’s brand new training complex for example is only cat 2. - What “state of the art” facilities are we lacking? - If facilities require upgrading has finance for this been requested from Venky’s and been refused? It would not count toward FFP calculations. - You have made several references to other teams facilities, namely Everton and St George’s park. They are much larger facilities than it would be possible to replicate on one site. Just in terms of pitch space we will be miles behind. Does it not concern you that we will be losing not only pitch space in the short term, but also limiting any potential for future development? 2. In the same document it states: “The club is therefore looking at a plan to develop a new coaching structure – to support and accelerate player pathway through the system” - Please could you outline what this structure looks like? - Is this a plan outside of the established Elite Player Performance Plan? If so, why are we deviating from industry standard? - If not, do you envision retaining Cat 1 status? This seems unlikely given the reduction in pitch space. - Whose vision is this? Who has designed this new structure? - Surely it makes more sense to tweak a coaching structure in line with facilities than to reduce facilities to accommodate a structure? 3. A long term reduction of running costs has been given as a reason for this proposal. - Is this an acknowledgement that promotion is unlikely, or perhaps not even a target? - Surely any savings would be minimal with this proposed scheme, particularly in comparison to the increased revenue a promotion would bring? They would also take years to realise. 4. Steve Waggott has been involved in redevelopment projects at both Gillingham and Southend which didn’t come to fruition. There were also well documented issues at Coventry while he and members of our management team were there. - Ground redevelopment appears to be a recurring theme throughout your career, however your track record appears very poor. Neither Gillingham or Southend have the new grounds you were working towards. Coventry have no ground and an absolutely farcical situation with their training ground. Are you the best person to be managing this project? - Why do you appear to value property deals above fan engagement, or marketing of the club? -Do you or anyone involved in the club have relationships with or interests in property development firms?