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Firstly I'd start Ohashi ahead of Gudjohnson until he proves himself as a sub. Kargbo all legs zero footballing knowledge. Cost us the game last night atleast attempt to look like you're trying. Alebiosu best player on the pitch. Shows intent amd runs the line well. You don't see many taking the ball off him and more often than not manages to get a cross in the box. We need to stop this fuckery on goal kicks if the idea is clipping it nearside to a winger in our own half it's 50/50 chance it's coming back toward the net whether by us or the other team. If you take a goal kick and fire it up the pitch if you lose it up there atleast it's away from goal and there's chance to win it back or you win it and start moving forward. Val seems to struggle in changing tactic we have such a linear narrative other teams just figure us out. Cantwell needs to just get on with it I'm my book refs never gonna change his mind I'd be more incline to give a penalty for the second one literally piggybacking until squashed flat. We can't keep relying on missed calls to win games.

That's fair enough if people want to do that but at least try and do a decent job whilst you're here.

Not sure id attach too much blame to Owen - he just gets a brief and has to work with it. Suhail and Gestede would have been the ones who went to Venkys and said they could make a competitive team on a radically reduced budget and sell our key players. But the fundamental dynamic is there are many fewer jobs in football than those who want them so if Gestede and Suhail walked away (not that they would) I am sure theyd find someone else who said they could do it. In a way its a good thing for it not to work as it hastens a reckoning and let's the efforts to push out Venkys build a bit of steam. If they fluked it again and we were competitive we'd just lose everyone once they proved themselves as we have already with JDT and Eustace. Its really all about the owners and their lack of engagement and planning. Getting bogged down in the individuals who are here is just a distraction. Ultimately we need new owners who have a vague sense of what it takes to be effective in the Championship and only a part of that is money.

I'd take Brian, he'd take none of that shit and neither would you if.... Jerry?! JERRY! Get me Zantacs!!

Just watched the game Yuk. I can forgive Kargbo losing the ball but no excuse for just giving up on it and strolling back. Long long season ahead. Alebiousi (sp) the only signing that looks worthwhile. Gudjohnson after two lively looking cameos offered little but I knew we had waited too long to start him, shouldnhave started game sfter his 2nd sub appearance. I am so tired if this self inflicted shit. All this was planned and executed by shysters in charge. Bottom by bonfire night

I thought the same It all sounds very strange

Hell be on lot more than 10k a week, at least double.

Changing the centre back pairing every game is disastrous. Again if you've got Wharton and Carter on the books... you aren't letting a senior centre back leave without a like for like replacement, well other clubs that is - we didn't have one lined up and the deal should have been dependant on one. It was suicidal, reckless business without a care in the world for results and shock.... we are hardly winning any fixtures.

Followed by the remnants of two hurricanes from the Caribbean and 85 mph winds.

Yeh Ismael earned some credit due to a strong finish to the season, but that credits been used up fast and hes quickly going down hill in my book, not just because of crap results but also due to his general whingy attitude and his dubious closeness to gestede and Sunhail pissant Cant see him being replaced though unless gestede goes with him and a new chairman (or whatever you want to label them..) comes in to do whatever it was that waggot did

BRYAN Douglas.

The club are relying on retaining as many optimists as they can, so that they can carry on hoodwinking them, that they are doing a good job and carry on raking in the money. Crazy statements like, we have a better squad than last year and it is going to be an exciting summer, are two examples of the utter nonsense being spouted. It is very muck akin to the ridiculous claims that a certain manger used to make about the new Wayne Rooney and the new chris Smalling etc and look how that ended up. More people are fortunately now seeing through this and dare I say, even our resident optimist, might be less positive, if we are cut adrift my Christmas. It is all well and good backing certain things and remaining loyal to the cause, but when something you have real passion and care for, is being destroyed by the people who are supposed to be looking after and caring for it, is time to recognise that, or it will be destroyed forever.

If McBurnie continues scoring for Hull (he's up to 7 for the season already) and those goals keep them in the Championship whilst we go down due in part to a chronic lack of goals, I wonder if the bean counters and laptop carriers upstairs at Ewood will reflect on that as they count the £10 million+ cost of relegation? Of course they won't, they'll just resort to more and more excuses as to why we couldn't have signed him.

I find this situation very confusing, as I was under the impression that compensation was only due when the club have tried to keep the player, not when they release him, and that we would have even less rights to money if the player moved abroad. I understand there's a difference between training compensation and general compensation but still. Also although Grasshoppers aren't giants I'd have thought they'd have enough money to just pay any training compo due for a player like Bloxham, who I think we only had for 2 years, rather than putting a 25% sell on in (unless he's really just there to pad out the youth numbers and they have zero expectation he would make it). Training compo is pretty low in general usually. Didn't we just get fuck all from Espanyol for Dolan? None of this negotiating seemed to crop up then. Think I did read something about us getting a minimal training compo for him (like 200k or something, guess Espanyol would just pay that), but thought I heard it turned out we weren't eligible for it.

Bob Crompton, the 'greatest' Rover of them all would need to take pride of place on such a monument.

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Hi Glen, I am happy to put the feelers out for a fighting fund and understand the need for some discretion. Can you give post an idea of the amounts needed and what the general ideas are and I will start up a go fund me. I will also make a donation and start the ball rolling.

Absolutely, enough is enough! I think most people would rather pay into this than a season ticket!!!

Too early to judge Ismael. But it's not looking good.Not a lot of us olduns left who remember Iley but him and Ince were employed by a good football club and they both failed miserably. Ismael is a pawn in the shocking mess that belongs to Venkys.

If it's players only then Ronnie, Duggie, Faz, Garner for me i think. A lot will say Shearer but he's a Geordie and he'd be on theirs, others maybe Hendry and i'm a big fan of his but he bailed twice when it suited unlike the 4 mentioned. Non players it would be John Lewis, Jack Walker and maybe Bill Fox and John Williams. Managers ? Well certainly Kenny and Souness for me plus possibly Don Mackay but not sure about the other.

That's the four I went for to be fair.

This season has relegation all over it. Our tactics are too transparent and very easy to defend against. We are far too wide, which means when we lose possession the other team have plenty of room to break out. We keep seeing it time and time again where their central midfielders are given acres. We made Stamenic look like prime Busquets yesterday. He hasn't had an easier day in his life. The passing angles we create are all wrong. And we are not playing to our strengths. Ok, Ohashi won a great header and almost got the equaliser, but why play a game that relies almost solely on getting wide and throwing the ball in the box and then keep your 6 foot 6 striker out of the squad? It seems madness. Even if his heading isn't the best, he gives them something to think about. I don't like the way Val plays football. Big gaps between the back and the strikers when on the ball; combined with being too wide and pushing too high up when in the final third. We are exposed and quite often we get crowded out when we have the ball because we are too far apart from each other. It is a far cry from what we have been used to For the game, I think Gudjohnson showed glimpses of quality but when he gets the service he's been getting what can we expect? Cantwell looked lively enough but showed he isn't a captain. Ableoisi is a real athlete and has moments of class. Just feel he needs to improve in the final third. I don't really have anything good to say about the rest of them. To a man, poor. Kargbo really pissed me off with his sloppiness and then lack of endeavour; then 5 minutes later he sprints full blast at a lost cause to chase the keeper down. Give over you fool. Not looking forward to this season. Gaffer is on a long contract, the Venky's have form for sacking too late, and I feel we are in a position whereby survival is now classed as a good season. If this is a reset then we've really tanked all the progress made in the last 5 years and gone back to the days of Coyle.

Jack Walker, Tony Parkes, Ronnie Clayton, Bryan Douglas. To be carved into the Dingles side of Pendle Hill.

You have to pay for quality up top they know that full well but they just don't want to. Rather have 3 or 4 cheapies whose combined wages add up to the same or more just in the vain hope one becomes worth a few million. Fools errand.