ben_the_beast Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Ok here goes. I understand there is already a thread involving a poll as to whether to sign any of our current loanees but in my opinion more attention needs to be brought to the possible signing of Roque Santa Cruz on a permanent basis. In regards to his loan spell since January I'm sure that when the deal was announced even the most pessimistic of fans would not have envisaged it panning out as badly as it did. He was signed to score the goals to keep us in the Premiership and failed miserably. I do not dislike the chap but with 0 goals it truly was a horrendous spell. As bad as it could have gone. He is over the hill, completely past it. For the life of me I cannot see why the club are looking to sign him on a permanent basis. With a huge 95% of fans on this board voting no to buying him outright there is clearly a huge but in my opinion relatively silent opposition to his signing. As for that 5% who voted yes. The message I repeatedly see splashed around is "He will come on the cheap and be on pay as you play wages, it's basically risk free." No it is not! RSC is on 90k a week. RSC may be willing to take a wage drop to a club which he stated he felt like he was "coming home" to, but he will still be coming in as one of our top earners and therefore surly first choice. In my estimation expecting him to drop to around 60k p/w is what we would be looking at. So what I am asking for is to make our voices heard. Facebook groups, on here, radio, LT if possible, anywhere. We were in a relegation scrap due to the lack of a decent striker just as much as the off field issues. We will be there next year too if we go into the new season with that same strike force. So make ourselves heard. Rightly or wrongly it has clearly worked before and this time I'm pretty sure most are unanimously in agreement this is not the way forwards! So say no to RSC My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve Moss Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deryck guyler's spoon Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Hard to disagree. I havn't seen RSC on his return but a nil goals return is absolutely pitiful. He was an inspirational signinng by Sparky (one of a few). He had the lot really. A bit of pace, fantastic touch , good in the air, could pass and an unerring finisher. Sadly the pace and David Bentley had gone on his return. Back down to Beswick Rocky, where the grass is greener for you apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocky Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I agree, but when has any club taken notice of fan's wishes when it comes to signing players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 We can't sign Roque based on former glory. He had his chance here to stake his claim and failed to make an impact. He's lost something to his game, no doubt caused by his constant injuries. We'd be better off taking van Nistelrooy on a free. I doubt their wages would be much different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankrover Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Roque is shot. We'd be mad to sign him. He was brilliant 3 years ago, but since then he's had more injuries than goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwins Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 How many goals has he scored since he came on loan? We must not entertain signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_the_beast Posted May 28, 2011 Author Share Posted May 28, 2011 I agree, but when has any club taken notice of fan's wishes when it comes to signing players? I understand what you are saying but the voice of the fans has been heard before in regards to when Allardyce was not appointed. (Do not what the rights and wrongs of that decision debated here though) But anyway. I have just started a facebook group. Please join and get anyone you know to join to. Edit: forgot to put the link Facebook group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted May 28, 2011 Backroom Share Posted May 28, 2011 I agree completely... I didn't want him to sign in Jan and I definitely don't want him signing on a permanent now. Thanks for the 07/08 season, please go and rob wages from another club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 No ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAFELL Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Ok here goes. I understand there is already a thread involving a poll as to whether to sign any of our current loanees but in my opinion more attention needs to be brought to the possible signing of Roque Santa Cruz on a permanent basis. In regards to his loan spell since January I'm sure that when the deal was announced even the most pessimistic of fans would not have envisaged it panning out as badly as it did. He was signed to score the goals to keep us in the Premiership and failed miserably. I do not dislike the chap but with 0 goals it truly was a horrendous spell. As bad as it could have gone. He is over the hill, completely past it. For the life of me I cannot see why the club are looking to sign him on a permanent basis. With a huge 95% of fans on this board voting no to buying him outright there is clearly a huge but in my opinion relatively silent opposition to his signing. As for that 5% who voted yes. The message I repeatedly see splashed around is "He will come on the cheap and be on pay as you play wages, it's basically risk free." No it is not! RSC is on 90k a week. RSC may be willing to take a wage drop to a club which he stated he felt like he was "coming home" to, but he will still be coming in as one of our top earners and therefore surly first choice. In my estimation expecting him to drop to around 60k p/w is what we would be looking at. So what I am asking for is to make our voices heard. Facebook groups, on here, radio, LT if possible, anywhere. We were in a relegation scrap due to the lack of a decent striker just as much as the off field issues. We will be there next year too if we go into the new season with that same strike force. So make ourselves heard. Rightly or wrongly it has clearly worked before and this time I'm pretty sure most are unanimously in agreement this is not the way forwards! So say no to RSC Totally agree - NO TO RSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosty Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Loved him in 07/08, but now, no way should he be signed. No to RSC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Past his best,we can and must do better than him.Zero goals for 90k a week is a shocking return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J.Newton Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 not unless he signs for less than 2million and only on a pay as you play(plus high goal bonus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowie Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Get a grip. Nonsense thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 pay as you play deal? as a squad player, with Kalinic and M Diouf leaving, he wouldn't be bad. But no for me either, not if there is a fee attached, or ridiculous wages being paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Southampton Rover Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I think we were lucky to get the fee we did for him so we should leave it at that. Thanks for coming on loan Roque, it didnt work out second time around but thanks for the brilliant memories and you'll always get a round of applause if you ever come back against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J.Newton Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 pay as you play deal? as a squad player, with Kalinic and M Diouf leaving, he wouldn't be bad. But no for me either, not if there is a fee attached, or ridiculous wages being paid. Yes thats what i said!, similar to what owen has at man u i think, gets a very basic average salary thats sustantially bumbed up when hes fit and playing and more if he scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claytons Left Boot Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Overpriced, overpaid, crocked bag of cack. Stay well clear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greco Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 pay as you play deal? as a squad player, with Kalinic and M Diouf leaving, he wouldn't be bad. But no for me either, not if there is a fee attached, or ridiculous wages being paid. even with favourable terms, i would still say no iceman. Benjani has done better then rsc, close to much better actually, so imo the signing of rsc would be crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Say NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Tom Posted May 28, 2011 Backroom Share Posted May 28, 2011 I'd rather we don't have a say on it. I wouldn't sign Roque and Kean wouldn't be my choice of manager but the manager should have the say on who he wants to sign it's a football club not a reality tv show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggyBlue Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Leave off. He's our marquee signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste B Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Facebook = the new stupid petition site for idiots to get involved in. RSC covered in his own thread. LOCKED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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