Let's Talk Tyrhys Dolan

[Tom]

Would have been 1st July I presume like other contracts 

[riverholmes]

20 hours ago, Displaced Rover said:

There’s a lot of talk and pages about such an average footballer - which just illustrates how far away we’ve fallen.

Dolan (as he and his agent are finding out) is a bang average Championship footballer. 

Should we have tied him down? Given he’ll be replaced with worse then yes he should, but I’m not going to get upset about this level of player leaving Rovers - we have much bigger issues.

I think this is part of the bigger issue that has been described here as a managed or intentional decline. Letting so many players of value go for free is hurting the club.

Dolan would've been an ideal candidate for a sale, assuming someone was interested a year or so ago. Not integral but catches the eye in highlights.

[rigger]

2 hours ago, riverholmes said:

I think this is part of the bigger issue that has been described here as a managed or intentional decline. Letting so many players of value go for free is hurting the club.

Dolan would've been an ideal candidate for a sale, assuming someone was interested a year or so ago. Not integral but catches the eye in highlights.

I doubt anyone would have been willing to pay a fee and his wages.

[Tomphil2]

This Dolan thread reminds me of new signing threads.

There'll be a complete 360 when he finally signs somewhere on a decent contract.

[USABlue]

Seen pictures of Dolan in the green and white hoops.  Look good on him, he's gone tonCeltic, good for him I think it is a good move.  Is the Scottish Prem a higher level overall than the Championship IDK,  he will get to play in some games that are big occasions which will be good experience for him.  Another I think whose career would be better served maturing another two years with us and then moving on.  Good luck to the lad, I will keep an eye on his progress. He could take off and do well or he could bomb.  He tried for us worked his lil bollox off but he needs a footballing brain to match his skill ran into dead ends, missed opportunites for passes.  Not sure what he lacks can be coached into him.  Sometimes if you don't have it by his age, you not gonna get it.  Good luck young Dolan hope you do not live to regret it.

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, USABlue said:

Seen pictures of Dolan in the green and white hoops.  Look good on him, he's gone tonCeltic, good for him I think it is a good move.  Is the Scottish Prem a higher level overall than the Championship IDK,  he will get to play in some games that are big occasions which will be good experience for him.  Another I think whose career would be better served maturing another two years with us and then moving on.  Good luck to the lad, I will keep an eye on his progress. He could take off and do well or he could bomb.  He tried for us worked his lil bollox off but he needs a footballing brain to match his skill ran into dead ends, missed opportunites for passes.  Not sure what he lacks can be coached into him.  Sometimes if you don't have it by his age, you not gonna get it.  Good luck young Dolan hope you do not live to regret it.

The Championship is the 11th ranked league in Europe, the Scottish Premiership is the 43rd ranked league in Europe - so no it's not even close. 

[Hasta]

16 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

The Championship is the 11th ranked league in Europe, the Scottish Premiership is the 43rd ranked league in Europe - so no it's not even close. 

Where’s these rankings come from?

[Tomphil2]

There's certainly a few Scots Prem clubs who'd compete comfortably at Championship level but the rest would struggle or wash their face at best.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Dolan situation is a strange one.  He really is a hit and miss player.  Good to have in the squad but he's never really been a 'game changer'.  He must have had his head turned at some stage because he isn't Prem standard by any stretch.  Really surprised we couldn't tie him to a new contract unless he's genuinely looking for big ££. 

That said, I thought he would have been snapped up by a Boro or Norwich.  The fact he hasn't and Bristol seem the main Champ link, suggests nobody British based is willing to pay what he wants and a tribunal fee.  

Most likely destination will be a European team although I can't imagine it will be a particularly good one -given the Turkey/Greece links.

German league would be a good move for him and probably suit his game. 

 

[roversfan99]

It wouldnt have to be him looking for big money. Even if he wants average, standard money he wont have been offered it here.

[RevidgeBlue]

It's only 13 days since his contract expired,  his next move is an extremely important one for him career wise  both financially and in terms of his career trajectory so it's hardly surprising he's taking his time to ensure he reaches the right decision.

On the other hand if the people who are sneering that interest in him from elsewhere must not be that great are correct then it just goes to show how poor our own offer to him must have been if interest in him isn't white hot yet he STILL was unable to sign up to whatever was on offer here.

[GHD]

Or it COULD just go to show that the offer was on a par with his worth

Edited Sunday at 11:19 by GHD

[Tomphil2]

How poor must the offer to Nyambe have been for him to happily hang around contractless until Wigan offered him something.

This will no doubt be along the same lines.

[RevidgeBlue]

10 minutes ago, GHD said:

Or it COULD just go to show that the offer was on a par with his worth

How so?

He'd have signed long ago if that were the case.

[Forever Blue]

9 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

How so?

He'd have signed long ago if that were the case.

The Turkish club chairman’s quotes were quite revealing 

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

The Turkish club chairman’s quotes were quite revealing 

If he thinks he can secure a Premier League gig that's his prerogative. Players like managers usually have an inflated view of their own ability.

Whether or not he's correct or not we'll know by the start of the season but either way I'd wager at worst he'll be somewhere else in the Championship on considerably more money than he would have been here.

[GHD]

51 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

How so?

He'd have signed long ago if that were the case.

No! He might have signed if the offer was what Dolan saw as his worth

[USABlue]

Sonhe's still not signed for anyone?

[rigger]

4 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

How so?

He'd have signed long ago if that were the case.

Unless Dolan has an overinflated idea of his worth ?

Edited Sunday at 16:03 by rigger

[chaddyrovers]

to be honest, I am surprised that Dolan hasn't sign for another club yet, I would have thought given that Dolan and his agent would have be put feelers out for the past few months and I seen not many links either to moves. Maybe his wage demands are too high given what the Turkish club chairman said recently 

 

[Hasta]

The problem for Championship clubs is it’s difficult to know what to offer salary wise if you don’t know what you will have to pay when it goes to a tribunal.

It no good offering an extra £10k a week over 4 years which will cost you £2million if you then get stung for £2 million.

If he went to a Premier League club it is peanuts and abroad it is irrelevant.

In the league where there is most interest, he is not truly a free agent.

This was told to me by a Baggie fan who is fairly close to their club who says they are interested.

Edited Sunday at 15:01 by Hasta

[Exiled_Rover]

27 minutes ago, Hasta said:

The problem for Championship clubs is it’s difficult to know what to offer salary wise if you don’t know what you will have to pay when it goes to a tribunal.

It no good offering an extra £10k a week over 4 years which will cost you £2million if you then get stung for £2 million.

If he went to a Premier League club it is peanuts and abroad it is irrelevant.

In the league where there is most interest, he is not truly a free agent.

This was told to me by a Baggie fan who is fairly close to their club who says they are interested.

So basically "we quite fancy him in and around the squad, but not enough to pay a fee for him".

Which is pretty much right. 

[chaddyrovers]

47 minutes ago, Hasta said:

The problem for Championship clubs is it’s difficult to know what to offer salary wise if you don’t know what you will have to pay when it goes to a tribunal.

It no good offering an extra £10k a week over 4 years which will cost you £2million if you then get stung for £2 million.

If he went to a Premier League club it is peanuts and abroad it is irrelevant.

In the league where there is most interest, he is not truly a free agent.

This was told to me by a Baggie fan who is fairly close to their club who says they are interested.

Or negotiation a fee with Rovers instead

[Tomphil2]

Truly free agents if they are half decent and command a bit of interest can obviously justifiably ask for bigger wages because there isn't a fee involved but this as pointed out above is an awkward one for interested clubs.

He's a 2 million quid young player with a bit of potential and theoretically his best years ahead but he isn't a lad non parachute clubs will jump straight in and commit to a 4 or 5 million overall cost if the tribunal is brutal.

He needs a relegated Prem club or Wrexham or Brum style interested party.

Think we all know he'll end up signing for Derby in a few weeks on not much more than here and play out of his skin for them. 

[chaddyrovers]