Tony Mowbray

[RevidgeBlue]

3 hours ago, Parsonblue said:

Absolutely right.  He agreed a budget with the owners and gave his word that he wouldn't come back asking for more.  That's one of the reasons I admire the guy.  I know old fashioned principles like keeping your word isn't something you expect in football but I find it an admirable quality.

Like all managers he made mistakes, they all do, but on the whole I think history will record his tenure at Ewood Park kindly.

You're condoning the running of a dysfunctional Club there Parson- at any normal Club it's the manager's job to demand every last penny he can get his hands on for the betterment of the team. It's the Board's job to decide if they can afford it and if necessary knock it back.

Instead here, it seems we very briefly had the owners getting excited and the manager dissuading them from investing. Absolutely bonkers!

Only the history books will subsequently record whether that brief window of opportunity was with hindsight the last realistic chance we had of ever getting back to the Premier League.

If it was, Mowbray must shoulder his share of the responsibility.

[JBiz]

21 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You're condoning the running of a dysfunctional Club there Parson- at any normal Club it's the manager's job to demand every last penny he can get his hands on for the betterment of the team. It's the Board's job to decide if they can afford it and if necessary knock it back.

Because someone understands a position, they’re not condoning anything. Also “at any normal club” the manager banging on the owners door for money isn’t the usual anymore.
 

Maybe in the days of Clough, but most managers aren’t even called managers anymore, they’re coaches. Tony even criticised himself, suggested perhaps this is why he never managed more in the top flight, his words not mine.

21 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Instead here, it seems we very briefly had the owners getting excited and the manager dissuading them from investing. Absolutely bonkers!

don’t like “chaddying” a post however I had a response specific to this - you show me where Tony has said he told the owners to put their money away? It’s how it always was, they meet and decide an annual budget. Part of the reason they’re shite owners, they’re absent for 364 days a year.

21 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Only the history books will subsequently record whether that brief window of opportunity was with hindsight the last realistic chance we had of ever getting back to the Premier League.

If it was, Mowbray must shoulder his share of the responsibility.

And he does in his “tippy tappy” he said they “just didn’t get over the line”. Sometimes in sport, football, tiddlywinks… it happens!

[RevidgeBlue]

39 minutes ago, JBiz said:

Because someone understands a position, they’re not condoning anything. Also “at any normal club” the manager banging on the owners door for money isn’t the usual anymore.

It would appear JDT and your mate Eustace disagreed completely with you.

As for proof he dissuaded the owners from investing I havent got the specific link but he clearly said in the LT at the time he had to "calm the owners down" something Leonard has corroborated.

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You're condoning the running of a dysfunctional Club there Parson- at any normal Club it's the manager's job to demand every last penny he can get his hands on for the betterment of the team. It's the Board's job to decide if they can afford it and if necessary knock it back.

Instead here, it seems we very briefly had the owners getting excited and the manager dissuading them from investing. Absolutely bonkers!

Only the history books will subsequently record whether that brief window of opportunity was with hindsight the last realistic chance we had of ever getting back to the Premier League.

If it was, Mowbray must shoulder his share of the responsibility.

Who said that they had got excited? And knocking back money is not what he said.

[RevidgeBlue]

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Who said that they had got excited? And knocking back money is not what he said.

It's what he said in the LT years ago.

[TimmyJimmy]

5 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

So you're happy with him publicly running down the club at every opportunity?

No.

[DeeCee]

Fuck Mowbray, he's history.

[Andy]

I listened to this on the drive home from work tonight.

He's a nice guy, undoubtedly - and he did a good job of reversing the death spiral we were on, following relegation.

But, by his own admission, he prioritised player harmony and relationships over winning and actively chose not to ask for more funds from the owners, when we were 2nd in the league (mid way through the season).

Which is pretty unforgivable, in my opinion.

[roversfan99]

It was the same window that he got annoyed publically that he couldnt sell Rothwell and reinvest the proceeds.

Its being interpreted as if he was offered a warchest, in a season where Venkys sold Armstrong and didnt invest at all, and he said no.