Premier League

[arbitro]

10 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I have sympathy for fans but this is why EFL and Sky tried to given fans plenty of notice of this fixture changes, This is why they brought this in.  

The PL and its teams doesn't need to play league games overseas given that The PL goes to America and the far east during pre season. 

Also given the revenue streams from the PL, other leagues don't generate that. 

Giving them a few weeks notice doesn't make it right - the logistics make it really difficult for travelling supporters. Millwall fans travelling by train to Preston could catch the 07.11 from Euston. Firstly they would have to travel across London which will be around an hour from Lewisham. It gets into Preston at 10.51. The earlier train is 06.08 which will mean them leaving home at around 5 am

I'm sure if you were a regular away match attendee and the changes had a direct effect on you you might think differently (at least I hope you would).

PS sorry for so much detail but I'm just trying to emphasise my point to Chaddy who doesn't seem to grasp the issues this causes for genuine supporters.

[Mattyblue]

Most Millwall fans live in the outer London boroughs these days (likes of Bromley) and into Kent, an absolute faff trying to get to Blackburn for half 12… still, just get a hotel ay.

Edited 10 hours ago by Mattyblue

[wilsdenrover]

Do Sky publish individual viewing figures for all these extra matches?

If not, why not?

[roversfan99]

7 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yet you keep going on and on about week after week, month after month for 12 months now. What have done other than moaning on here? 

What other time could the games be play? Maybe 5.30pm and 8pm on Saturday then 12pm, 2.30pm 5pm and 7pm Sunday? Blimey if they did that you would complaining and moaning then? 

Fans have been plenty of notice of games being moved which they never had before. You planned your time, book hotel and book time of work. If I want to go to Saturday away game, I have to book a day off work, but do I complain or moan like you do, no cos it's my choice to work nights and want to that away game. 

 

Some people go to regular away games. Will they have to repeatedly go down the night before and get hotels and book time off? @arbitro highlights examples of the nightmare it can cause re public transport but you dont use it so you dont acknowledge it.

And what about even home fans who might have for example their kids playing football in the morning?

Ive told you my alternative and it isnt a series of different kick offs across the weekend. Its to revert back just to 1 game each Saturday 12.30. The viewing figures for the other 6 games must be very small because you can only watch 1 at once. Its not worth the inconvenience. 

Yes it means clubs getting less money, so less greed which only ends up in the hands of players, agents, directors etc anyway, clubs are still losing loads of money. It also gives Sky less chance to keep putting up their prices. 

Its not going to happen, football clubs, the EFL and Sky dont care about fans, but at least acknowledge that it causes massive inconveniences up and down the country for fans and is just greed going out of control.

[Upside Down]

Who needs to use public transport when your car can do 15,000 miles to the gallon? 

I'm looking forward to us discussing how you get to the 12:30 Birmingham away kick off by canoe again. That was interesting.

[oneandycrawford]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

And what about even home fans who might have for example their kids playing football in the morning?

That's a really good point. As a kid I used to play regularly on Saturday mornings. Then back home for dinner and then off to the match - or straight to an away match if that was do'able.

That would have been impossible with 12.30 kick-offs and might have meant I never got into the habit of regularly watching Rovers.

I ended up being a regular at Ewood for the next 30 years!

[Exiled_Rover]

13 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

7 games is on for exposure for the clubs and then that increase revenue for the EFL and the clubs for TV rights. Simple concept. 

You still going on and on about 12 months is remarkable. You still don't how it's works

What exposure?

That's a 7:30am kickoff on the East Coast and a 5:30am kickoff on the West Coast of the US.

We have new media darlings Wrexham and Birmingham in the league - both owned by Americans. Surely their new US fans won't want to wake up at that time to watch them?

[doctorryan]

12:30 PM GMT is 7:30 AM Eastern & 4:30 AM in the Western time zone.

Edited 4 hours ago by doctorryan

[speeeeeeedie]

1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said:

What exposure?

That's a 7:30am kickoff on the East Coast and a 5:30am kickoff on the West Coast of the US.

We have new media darlings Wrexham and Birmingham in the league - both owned by Americans. Surely their new US fans won't want to wake up at that time to watch them?

You'd be surprised. Bars are regularly busy at 5am in Los Angeles for Prem games.

I don't know if Wrexham and Brum have the same pull as the big boys though. I've not met a new found Wrexham fan yet, but loads have people watched their documentary. Birmingham have even less exposure even with Tom Brady trying his best to publicise them.

[DeeCee]

5 hours ago, oneandycrawford said:

That's a really good point. As a kid I used to play regularly on Saturday mornings. Then back home for dinner and then off to the match - or straight to an away match if that was do'able.

That would have been impossible with 12.30 kick-offs and might have meant I never got into the habit of regularly watching Rovers.

I ended up being a regular at Ewood for the next 30 years!

Ha ha, you should have been like me and only good enough for Sunday League/Pub League, no problem to getting to Saturday lunch kick offs, except for Friday night beer.

Yes my name is Chaddy as well but I must stress I am No Relation 🤦‍♂️