Premier League

[DE.]

I overestimated the quality of the teams in the league more than anything, although in my defence I barely give the PL a passing glance these days. This Man Utd team, currently losing to Burnley, being 7th says it all. 

Edited January 7 by DE.

[KentExile]

12 minutes ago, RTM08 said:

Sooo, hands up who actually thought Keith Andrews would do this good a job ar Brentford?

I imagine pointing at his team mates, and pointing at a tactics board, are transferrable skills 😉 

[RevidgeBlue]

Burnley 1-1 now.

Thought there was a ridiculous VAR inspired penalty for Citeh in their game v Brighton.

Doku took a swan dive over an outstretched leg and the ref (rightly imo) ignored it. Then VAR referred him to the screen and we know what happens next.

[RevidgeBlue]

Burnley 2-1 down now.

Edit: Bugger, 2-2 as I typed!

Edited January 7 by RevidgeBlue

[Tom]

Grealish got a second yellow for applauding the referee after getting a free kick, Everton fans seem annoyed but it’s bloody stupid from Grealish who then got in the ref’s face after.

[Tom]

A lot of Burnley fans seem very unhappy tonight that they wasted time and tried to play for the draw rather than go for the win. 
 

Parker still on the precipice it feels 

[oneandycrawford]

4 hours ago, KentExile said:

I imagine pointing at his team mates, and pointing at a tactics board, are transferrable skills 😉 

Doing well with a team stripped of it's two best forwards who were responsible for the vast majority of their goals last season. Lost their captain and goalkeeper as well

Maybe we just have to (begrudgingly for some) accept that he might be a good coach - perhaps he can read a game better than he can play one! Would explain all the pointing 😉

[KentExile]

4 hours ago, oneandycrawford said:

Doing well with a team stripped of it's two best forwards who were responsible for the vast majority of their goals last season. Lost their captain and goalkeeper as well

Maybe we just have to (begrudgingly for some) accept that he might be a good coach - perhaps he can read a game better than he can play one! Would explain all the pointing 😉

My comment was meant in jest.  He is obviously doing a very fine job with Brentford

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

10 hours ago, Tom said:

A lot of Burnley fans seem very unhappy tonight that they wasted time and tried to play for the draw rather than go for the win. 
 

Parker still on the precipice it feels 

I didn’t see the game but looking at the stats they got hammered. Very lucky to escape with a point.

Edited Thursday at 09:55 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Hasta]

3 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I didn’t see the game but looking at the stats they got hammered. Very lucky to escape with a point.

First 30 minutes were pretty level. United then had a spell where they were rampant for 15 minutes before and then 15 minutes after half time. Loads of shots, clearances off the line etc.. Got themselves in front, immediately took Bruno Fernandes off for some bizarre reason and then it went pretty even again. But in the spell when Untied were on top they could have had 4 or 5.

[speeeeeeedie]

17 hours ago, DE. said:

I overestimated the quality of the teams in the league more than anything, although in my defence I barely give the PL a passing glance these days. This Man Utd team, currently losing to Burnley, being 7th says it all. 

I'd go the other way. There isn't that much difference from top to bottom, aside from the teams in the relegation spots. Although Edwards seems to have got Wolves playing. They narrowly lost to Arsenal and Liverpool. Drew away at Man U and Everton.

Everton have a £100m player in midfield (albeit on loan). Bournemouth's striker cost almost £40m. Brighton and Brentford sold forwards for £50m+ over the summer. 

Forest have 2 England calibre midfielders. Palace has Gueye and Wharton.

[Blow-in]

18 hours ago, oneandycrawford said:

Doing well with a team stripped of it's two best forwards who were responsible for the vast majority of their goals last season. Lost their captain and goalkeeper as well

Maybe we just have to (begrudgingly for some) accept that he might be a good coach - perhaps he can read a game better than he can play one! Would explain all the pointing 😉

Maybe when he was pointing he was right???

[Cherry Blue]

Not a Liverpool liker but that action by martinelli was disgraceful. Hope they do look at that again and punish him and Arsenal. 

[Vinjay]

Neville should be fired. Can't advocate violence (at least on live TV) what a bad impression to set for younger viewers.

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, Vinjay said:

Neville should be fired. Can't advocate violence (at least on live TV) what a bad impression to set for younger viewers.

Im not a Neville fan at all but I didnt think he said anything wrong at all. He said Martinelli trying to push the injured Bradley off the pitch was an absolute disgrace, which I completely agree with and he was surprised one of the Liverpool players hadn't chinned Martinelli (or similar) which I cant disagree with at all.

[RevidgeBlue]

11 minutes ago, Cherry Blue said:

Not a Liverpool liker but that action by martinelli was disgraceful. Hope they do look at that again and punish him and Arsenal. 

Agreed.

Really poor game.

[Tom]

Martinelli thing was poor but I thought he deserved 2 yellows nothing too drastic. 
 

We see that happen quite often it just so happened this time the lad was actually injured and I think Martinelli has had a lapse in judgement and thought he was time wasting. 

[M_B]

Was it last season Martinelli was off the pitch "injured" and Arteta urged him to roll back on to get the game stopped ?

Just hope they don't win it, not a very likeable club. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Carrick in at the Red Rats. I can’t see him making much difference.

[Mattyblue]

'knows the club!'

[speeeeeeedie]

2 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

'knows the club!'

Part of me wants Carrick to do well. The fans will clamour for him to be appointed full time, the owners will fold and give it to him. Then next season they'll be crap again, restarting the cycle.

Speaking of "knowing the club" Wayne Rooney is throwing his name out there asking for a job; ESPN: Rooney would coach at Man U. He also gave a shout out to Roy Keane. 

I say sign them both up. What could go wrong? Keane, who hasn't managed a team for years, and Rooney who lasted less than half a season at both Brum and Plymouth before being sacked are the perfect people to keep Man U mired in mediocrity.

[Tom]

Strong chance Semenyo wins the league for City, he’s a real menace 

His define goal is likely to be ruled out here for a nonsense VAR but just has the knack 

Edit I know it’s the cup but still the point stands

Ridiculous use of VAR here desperate to rule out a goal to the point they are micro analysing it

Edited 1 hour ago by Tom

[benhben]

What the fuck is VAR doing here? Scrutinising over tiny pixels. Who makes these rules. Someone with no idea of the game or what the fans want. 

5 mins and counting to decide an offside. 

Who in the game actually wants to see this. A man in an office zooming into a computer screen while everyone in the stadium sits waiting.

Edited 1 hour ago by benhben

[Tom]

2 minutes ago, benhben said:

What the fuck is VAR doing here? Scrutinising over tiny pixels. Who makes these rules. Someone with no idea of the game or what the fans want. 

5 mins and counting to decide an offside. 

Absolute bollocks isn’t it, utterly ridiculous that they’ve ruled that out but feel they took so long they just had to try and find reason to justify it 

Edited 1 hour ago by Tom

[riverholmes]

59 minutes ago, Tom said:

Strong chance Semenyo wins the league for City, he’s a real menace 

His define goal is likely to be ruled out here for a nonsense VAR but just has the knack 

Edit I know it’s the cup but still the point stands

Ridiculous use of VAR here desperate to rule out a goal to the point they are micro analysing it

I'm always doubtful about Guardiola teams these days. He seems to want to be the centre of attention and when a player starts to take the headlines, somehow, I get the impression he tries to defuse them in favour of a collective approach. That said, there's no doubt that Haaland, De Bruyne and Foden have been exceptional as individuals at times.

However, for example, I look at the Haaland in Germany who was full of attitude and a monstrous figure charging with the ball, is now all but a goal poacher. Foden was a title-charging wizard and then fizzled out to seeming like a lost kid. Then there's the defence that gets shifted around and the side now have no outstanding centre back, with Ruben Dias falling off form.

To some extent, I think Wenger followed a similar path, where in his latter years seemed reluctant to allow his players to outshine him.

 

Edited 46 minutes ago by riverholmes