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[AAK]

Yasir, no offence intended is an idiot. The massive reduction in adult season tickets is because adults are buying cheap tickets, hence their own policy to now conduct regular ticket checks. We all know people who do it. Again, more garbage. Got bored after the first 15 mins, especially when it was confirmed he lives in Luton, piss off pal.

Edited April 30 by AAK

[Tomphil2]

So he's not local then ?

How did he end up here and who brought him in ?

Fan engagement officer or whatever to commercial director in the blink of an eyelid, a bit odd.

[JHRover]

When you are expecting people to give up their precious money and time no amount of talking or excuses are going to cut it. People will judge on actions (or rather lack of) at the club and decide whether they can tolerate more of the same again.

Going on twitter and regurgitating the same old 'can't do' tired excuses including ludicrous attempts to compare our income to Leeds' are just going to end up digging a deeper hole. 

At the end of the day there will be another drop off in people buying. Proof will be in the pudding and no amount of talking or excuses will get around that. 

[AAK]

1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said:

So he's not local then ?

How did he end up here and who brought him in ?

Fan engagement officer or whatever to commercial director in the blink of an eyelid, a bit odd.

Because ‘we’ and I use that word very, very loosely, love a chap who will beat the venkys drum.

[Bronzed A Donis]

Ill try and stomach the video but if I cant, did he clarify his comment to WATR about having no interest in bringing back fans we've lost?

[Mattyblue]

Odd how a guy that started just doing community work for the club around Blackburn lives in Luton, but I suppose WFH takes may forms…

[StHelensRover]

38 minutes ago, Bronzed A Donis said:

Ill try and stomach the video but if I cant, did he clarify his comment to WATR about having no interest in bringing back fans we've lost?

I listened to the full interview, it's not bad IMO. He is not to blame for problems at the club in the same way that his bosses are, he isn't deserving of the level of vitriol I have for them.

He clarifies that WATR comment at length, he is adamant that what they said was not a verbatim quote and that it has been badly paraphrased out of context. I do actually believe him. He said he has been asking them to take it down and can't understand why they haven't, because apparently they apologised.

He is paid to do a job and so he is publicly accountable to the fans. I don't think he's a genius but I don't think he's a moron either. I genuinely think he cares. I wish he would think more carefully before engaging with fans on Twitter, he undermines himself.

While he should always be accountable regarding his role at the club, I don't put him anywhere near the bracket of responsibility and therefore the ire reserved for Pasha and Waggott (and increasingly Gestede).

Edit- one example I give him some credit for is that he does his best (whether people or agree or not) to go into detail on the ticket pricing and why it's very difficult to compare clubs in L1 and L2 (e.g. Bolton or Bradford) with large crowds and cheap tickets to a club in the championship. I didn't realise that their financial rules are slightly different than the championship so owners can charge less and offset this themselves without being penalised under the L1/L2 ffp rules, or that was sort of how it was explained. That had been a previous criticism of mine which I will need to think about again.

 

Edited May 1 by StHelensRover

[Mattyblue]

They must have just read the rulebook as Swag has *never* mentioned it previously... and doesn't explain that club a few miles to the west.

[MarkBRFC]

10 hours ago, AAK said:

Yasir, no offence intended is an idiot. The massive reduction in adult season tickets is because adults are buying cheap tickets, hence their own policy to now conduct regular ticket checks. We all know people who do it. Again, more garbage. Got bored after the first 15 mins, especially when it was confirmed he lives in Luton, piss off pal.

He's also an Arsenal fan I believe, although claims to be a Rovers fan all his life.

[ruggles1995]

Just listened to the pod. I don't know the situation with Yasir other than listening to his interview. And what I will say is that at least hes come out and spoken about ticket prices and backed it up with why and reasons behind it. Whether we agree with it or not, it was good to hear his reasoning about it, with stats over recent years in terms of previous plans and as to why they've done what they've done with prices this year. Again whether we like it or not, its at least good to hear something. 

Again, I know nothing about the bloke, so don't really have an idea about the tweets or whatever has happened. But just from the interview side, was good to hear some form of insight on it, well their perspective as to why they have made certain decisions. 

[glen9mullan]

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[RoversClitheroe]

8 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Latest fans forum minutes live 

 

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Not sure what to make of it.

How can we not make contract offers?

I just can't agree with Yasir on season tickets.

[Mattyblue]

Disingenuous as always.

Come out with pie in the sky figures like ‘we need to sell 23,000 STs if we have £150 pricing like many fans want’

Who is suggesting 150 quid tickets? Of course there couldn’t possibly be a middle ground between what we charge and 150 quid.

Fundamentally a slippery bunch protecting their positions who seem very apt at chucking in straw men arguments to deflect.

 

[roversfan99]

They love going to extremes. The only alternative isnt £150 season tickets and they seem very keen to compare us to Leeds. No one is saying we should be directly competitive with Leeds.

Most of the answers are just that the owners spend and do as they like. These leeches are powerless, until the owners go nothing will change.

[Mattyblue]

The minutes should just take the format of

‘we asked a serious of questions’

Club answer to questions:

’We can’t’.

[rog of the rovers]

Blackburn 'we're not Leeds United' Rovers fans forum minutes

Edited May 1 by rog of the rovers

[jwlrovers]

Still no idea on season ticket sales then?

[arbitro]

The only place I've seen £150 season tickets mentioned is the odd post on here so for them to hide behind that and say we need to sell 23000 to maintain current targets is real misnomer.

If that is the case why not price them at £300 and aim for around 12000 which would then meet their targets.

Once again they go for the soft option, the low hanging fruit and prey on the loyalty of existing supporters.

[RevidgeBlue]

Unless a large proportion of what was actually said in the meeting wasnt recorded it seems there was very little pushback on anything that the Club said.

So much for not letting them off the hook and the tough line of questioning that was promised.

Nothing whatsover made if you believe the minutes of the fact that two top Coaches have walked out on the Club in a space of 12 months. Nothing made of the fact the second one left a Club in the play offs to join one in the relegation zone which is unprecedented. Nothing asked about what steps if any the Club took to try and persuade Eustace to stay. It the Club had admitted there werent any, we needed to know their reasons why not.

Nothing much made of the lack of contract offers made to players leaving either at the end of this season or the next.

Nothing about Waggott's whopping increase in remuneration.

Credit to K Hod for the one searching question about the lack of transfer investment. Does anyone actually believe that crap in response about us allegedly missing out on a mystery striker who became unavailable due to injuries at his Club? How convenient.

A surprising amount of throwing the owners under the bus from SS - "we always request the maximum amount but its up to them how much they want to provide etc" Certainly no more pretence from him that "They never refuse to write a cheque" etc

Is this right or is it him just trying to cover his own back and deflect criticism off him and Waggott?  It doesnt really tie up with either Waggott claiming he was making a specific request for funding in advance of the January window at the last FF meeting, or Gestede saying in recent interviews that he knew what his budget was for the year and that wouldnt change no matter where we found ourselves in the table. I personally think all 3 are lying and none of them can get their story straight.

In summary, the usual depressing read, the Club's default position being that they're never in the wrong and nothing is ever their fault. And no-one really ever takes them to task on it. Again unless the minutes are not a true reflection of what was actually said by and large the Club just come out with any old nonsense and no-one says anything in response.

I'll exempt KHod from that as it would appear from the minutes he does his best.

[Maphsa]

Waggot's claim that midweek attendance is down because of the new sky deal. How does he know this as fact? He's just been told in the same meeting by a fan representative that fans are getting fed up with the club and not wanting to buy tickets.

Has he done any research into the new sky deal being the cause of this? I doubt it; I'm sure it's a factor, but to put it down to this without backing up the claim is disingenuous. 

It's pretty typical of the way the club is being run; coming up with an explanation for their issues without actually doing any market research or engagement to identify their areas of improvement.

[arbitro]

4 minutes ago, Maphsa said:

Waggot's claim that midweek attendance is down because of the new sky deal. How does he know this as fact? He's just been told in the same meeting by a fan representative that fans are getting fed up with the club and not wanting to buy tickets.

Has he done any research into the new sky deal being the cause of this? I doubt it; I'm sure it's a factor, but to put it down to this without backing up the claim is disingenuous. 

It's pretty typical of the way the club is being run; coming up with an explanation for their issues without actually doing any market research or engagement to identify their areas of improvement.

He didn't mention that he voted for the Sky deal and that a reported £3m per club is what they actually receive to compensate for irregular kick off times and days.

It has been another income stream which has offset the owners inability to send money over (and probably contributed to Swag's huge pay rise).

 

 

[StHelensRover]

This is why I think people should be careful what they put online and not just post rumours as fact. It undermines genuine points/arguments and makes supporters look like they don't know what they're talking about.

 

 

 

[rossyste]

It's just the same wishy washy spin every time. I respect the people who attend in particular the ones who ask the probing questions but when the club turn up mob handed they must drain the life out of the attendees with their well rehearsed answers. At the end of the day it's on Venkys, everything is on Venkys, they pay their stooges to "manage" the club and they are happy to bimble along, collecting big wages.

Nothing will change until they are gone, it's sickening

[wilsdenrover]

7 minutes ago, StHelensRover said:

This is why I think people should be careful what they put online and not just post rumours as fact. It undermines genuine points/arguments and makes supporters look like they don't know what they're talking about.

 

 

 

It appears we have a mole 🧐😁

 

Edited May 1 by wilsdenrover

[Mattyblue]

Confirmation that they are forum lurkers.

So, whilst we have you, stop being daft and extend the early bird.