Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach

[Upside Down]

24 minutes ago, Bronzed A Donis said:

Imagine going the car dealership and them saying you can have a 12 month lease on this one......BUT can't promise you'll get it running and its definitely not going to have an engine for the first 4 months, also also just failed its MOT... and not sure what its capable of if we do..fix it...........do you want to sign the lease, we get a good commission?

Its that level of moronic.

Makes sense when the people signing the lease also pocket some commission.

[rigger]

2 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

Makes sense when the people signing the lease also pocket some commission.

The only people who don't make anything on the deal are the paying public, but who cares about them ?

[RevidgeBlue]

13 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Ismael spoke similar bollocks about free agents when he was at Watford. 

Don't mind him being against loans and free agents in principle. 

But only if the permanent business is up to scratch.

If it isn't- needs must.

[arbitro]

13 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Ismael spoke similar bollocks about free agents when he was at Watford. 

Indeed. He also said he didn't like loans and to compound his single mindedness he signed one who won't have played for the best part of six months.

He simply isn't doing what is best for the club with his blinkered approach.

[BRFC.]

Has Valerien Ismael ever shown anger towards the board and owners? Feels like he just nods along to everything and doesn’t care key players are being sold and not replaced.

[BRFC.]

If he doesn’t want us to look at any free signings I don’t want to see him complaining about injuries.

[Leonard Venkhater]

7 hours ago, Bronzed A Donis said:

Imagine going the car dealership and them saying you can have a 12 month lease on this one......BUT can't promise you'll get it running and its definitely not going to have an engine for the first 4 months, also also just failed its MOT... and not sure what its capable of if we do..fix it...........do you want to sign the lease, we get a good commission?

Its that level of moronic.

"My client asks me to tell you..."

In plain sight!

Get them OUT...

[CaptainBeanfart]

Bet this wouldn't be on page 2 if we'd lost. 

Anybody willing to change their opinion on him? He's doing a great job for me, fully expected this team to be relegated after a chaotic summer. 

I think we'd be screwed if he left, not many managers would want this job right now. 

[Mattyblue]

Always plenty of managers interested in Championship jobs (especially at a pretty unique one where they don’t do sackings).

[Leonard Venkhater]

15 minutes ago, CaptainBeanfart said:

Bet this wouldn't be on page 2 if we'd lost. 

Anybody willing to change their opinion on him? He's doing a great job for me, fully expected this team to be relegated after a chaotic summer. 

I think we'd be screwed if he left, not many managers would want this job right now. 

Players clearly playing for him.

I don't like his apparent collusion with awful transfer decisions. You might say he has no choice, but I think it insults our intelligence.

[Andy]

35 minutes ago, CaptainBeanfart said:

Bet this wouldn't be on page 2 if we'd lost. 

Anybody willing to change their opinion on him? He's doing a great job for me, fully expected this team to be relegated after a chaotic summer. 

I think we'd be screwed if he left, not many managers would want this job right now. 

I understand why his direct approach (in communicating) wouldn't be for everyone, but I prefer to deal with directness.

He's clearly got us motoring away from home - and playing some good football as well, to be fair.
We're not grinding out results, we're being the better side.

At home however is where he needs to find the right formula. And he's not going to get a better opportunity than this period directly in front of us.

[roversfan99]

He is definitely not doing a "great" job.

[CaptainBeanfart]

35 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Players clearly playing for him.

I don't like his apparent collusion with awful transfer decisions. You might say he has no choice, but I think it insults our intelligence.

I don't think he does have a choice. He's a head coach, as are most "managers" now. At best they have a voice in the committee. 

[chaddyrovers]

30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

He is definitely not doing a "great" job.

so has your opinion change on Ismael? is he doing a good job? was he right to change formation in order to pick points up and results? 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Given the hand he’s been dealt I think he’s doing a good job. There’s no lack of effort from the players. That hasn’t always been the case over the past few years.

[StHelensRover]

I still think he's shite. We're 18th in the league, we've won one home game and got knocked out the cup by a lower league team. If I was appointed instead of him last year I think I could have made a better fist of getting us into the playoffs than he did. Anyone being smarmy about him because we won a local derby can jog on for me. I never wanted him appointed and my jaw will go through the floor if he ever musters anything measurable as 'success', which would be qualifying for the playoffs, he won't.

 

Edit - I don't want to see anyone using transfer policy as an excuse for him. When he interviewed for the job, that was his chance to interview the club about it's plans to progress. If he didn't ask, didn't listen, or simply waved through their shambolic, tinpot, unambitious plans then he doesn't get the excuse of "doing well with a poor squad".

Edited 17 hours ago by StHelensRover

[roversfan99]

54 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

so has your opinion change on Ismael? is he doing a good job? was he right to change formation in order to pick points up and results? 

I think he deserves credit for sure for recent results, and the change in formation certainly has really helped.

I dont think he is doing a good job overall though, no. His record in charge still is poor, but it was terrible before recent results.

And this doesnt matter but I also find him incredibly difficult to warm to. Very much the type of manager that suits these owners and this board, willing to talk rubbish publically to protect them.

Im guessing that you think hes doing a good job.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I’m not really bothered whether I warm to him or not. I never listen to what managers say anyway, Mowbray cured me of that. I thinks it’s pretty obvious for what ever reason he’s got the players on side. Well, the ones that are playing anyway. The guys who are left out regularly might have a different opinion. 

[chaddyrovers]

11 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I think he deserves credit for sure for recent results, and the change in formation certainly has really helped.

I dont think he is doing a good job overall though, no. His record in charge still is poor, but it was terrible before recent results.

And this doesnt matter but I also find him incredibly difficult to warm to. Very much the type of manager that suits these owners and this board, willing to talk rubbish publically to protect them.

Im guessing that you think hes doing a good job.

Firstly, I don't know why whether you warm to him or not is even a factor in an opinion on Ismael or his media comments. Surely that should be non-issue. Its should be based on results and performances only. 

I think Ismael is doing well at the minute. The away form is very good and one of the best in the league, so he and the players deserved huge credit for that. The home form isn't good enough and we need to get better results whilst performances have been good tho. So that's need improving for me 

Is win record is better than Eustace record but Eustace has more points per game cos of more draws he had. 

[London blue]

30 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Firstly, I don't know why whether you warm to him or not is even a factor in an opinion on Ismael or his media comments. Surely that should be non-issue. Its should be based on results and performances only. . 

He literally qualified the comment by saying it doesn't matter

Besides, you don't get to decide what people factor in to their decision making on his capability.

I find him abrasive and dismissive. He fits right in to the Suhail-Gestede power trip.

[Mattyblue]

Wins over actual points to be used to fit an argument now.

[roversfan99]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Firstly, I don't know why whether you warm to him or not is even a factor in an opinion on Ismael or his media comments. Surely that should be non-issue. Its should be based on results and performances only. 

I think Ismael is doing well at the minute. The away form is very good and one of the best in the league, so he and the players deserved huge credit for that. The home form isn't good enough and we need to get better results whilst performances have been good tho. So that's need improving for me 

Is win record is better than Eustace record but Eustace has more points per game cos of more draws he had. 

It isnt a factor, I specifically said it doesnt matter.

Points per game is the important one, obviously. Im guessing you think that 18th in the table is above or at least on par with where youd place this set of players in the table.

[Wheelton Blue]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Firstly, I don't know why whether you warm to him or not is even a factor in an opinion on Ismael or his media comments. Surely that should be non-issue. Its should be based on results and performances only. 

I think Ismael is doing well at the minute. The away form is very good and one of the best in the league, so he and the players deserved huge credit for that. The home form isn't good enough and we need to get better results whilst performances have been good tho. So that's need improving for me 

Is win record is better than Eustace record but Eustace has more points per game cos of more draws he had. 

You used to bang on about 'communication', but now media comments are a 'non-issue'.

[sharpysharps86]

I don't think I'll ever warm to him, but as RF99 says in his post that doesn't really matter at all. Ultimately wins are all that count and I just hope that he and the players can continue to pick them up at a reasonable rate. 4 wins from the last 5 is very good given injuries, suspensions and a general lack of experience within the team...and in each of the wins this season I have been impressed by the character shown by the players. They are clearly playing for him and each other at this moment in time.

However, the bad start and some awful defeats earlier in the season means we will likely be looking over our shoulders until January at least. The games before Christmas are hugely important as to whether we continue to look down rather than up for the duration of the season.

At the start of the season and with the mass turnover of players I had no expectations, just hoped that Rovers could stay in the league, as awfully unambitious as that sounds, but that's where my head was and continues to be at. I suppose by that gauge he is doing the required job, as unambitious and depressing as that sounds.

I'm far more worried about how the club will probably have a huge squad 'transition' every summer for the foreseeable future than whoever the head coach is.

[Tomphil2]

I'll go as far as to say he is probably the only one down there who knows what he is doing.

We sometimes forget they can only work with what they have and the remits at this club now state move out high earners, get mins and value into the whole squad and promote youth.

Watched the highlights of Friday this morning and the look on his face when their equaliser went in was priceless.

He was having trouble not combusting there which is good to see imo.