Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach

[Mattyblue]

A club of our stature, spent pretty much twenty years in the top flight, stuck down here since and one manager has been sacked (and that was too late) in a decade.

As always, not normal.

[Tomphil2]

3 hours ago, davulsukur said:

It feels like Gestede has picked out VI for the "project" and he'll be backing him for the full 3 years of his contract.

I don't envisage any situation occurring for the rest of the season that would result in his dismissal, and I include relegation in that.

Only chance he's going if Pasha is stabbing everyone in the back right now in India (and he will be) and putting a case forward that he can salvage everything and turn it all around. That would probably be the end for both VI and RG.

He'll just be over there telling them he can handle it and if they get a CEO a cheap one with no remit other than to oversee all the heads of heads will be fine.

And serve as a handy distraction for him and Rudy who will be perceived to have done great work bringing in a year or two's running costs and reducing the wage bill in real terms.

Results, performances and league position will be secondary to all that, especially when he tells them whose wages we can lose in Jan and who he is expecting offers for in summer.

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, davulsukur said:

It feels like Gestede has picked out VI for the "project" and he'll be backing him for the full 3 years of his contract.

I don't envisage any situation occurring for the rest of the season that would result in his dismissal, and I include relegation in that.

Only chance he's going if Pasha is stabbing everyone in the back right now in India (and he will be) and putting a case forward that he can salvage everything and turn it all around. That would probably be the end for both VI and RG.

From reports it a committee of 4 who picked Ismael has the head coach. The 4 being Waggott, Gestede, Pasha and Owen. The final shortlist was Ismael or Wagner

 

[roversfan99]

Reports doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

Pretty safe to assume that those 4 didnt all sit round a table and agree equally.

[Mattyblue]

‘Val will do it cheaper, so go for him’ being the conclusion of the brains trust, I’d imagine.

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

 

[davulsukur]

11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

From reports it a committee of 4 who picked Ismael has the head coach. The 4 being Waggott, Gestede, Pasha and Owen. The final shortlist was Ismael or Wagner

 

Then they should all be leaving the club along with Waggott.

An absolutely dreadful appointment that could be seen from miles off.

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Reports doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

Pretty safe to assume that those 4 didnt all sit round a table and agree equally.

none of us who were the biggest push for a candidate or not but it was reported those 4 were interviewing and had to decide

 

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

 

[sharpysharps86]

13 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

‘Val will do it cheaper, so go for him’ being the conclusion of the brains trust, I’d imagine.

The old Owen Coyle appointment method. That went well.

[islander200]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

none of us who were the biggest push for a candidate or not but it was reported those 4 were interviewing and had to decide

 

Do you rate Gestede and Owen?

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

 

He's done a rapid backtrack on not wanting any loans then..............

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

'The Project'.....operation Relegation.

That is the smug smile of a Manager who know's he is going nowhere.

K'in Awful.

Edited 2 hours ago by SIMON GARNERS 194

[simongarnerisgod]

57 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

we all know there won`t be any money spent in january,more than likely there will be outgoings,is val reading a press release that pasha has prepared for him?????

 

 

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

 

Heard it all before. 90% before pre season? Dont believe a word of it.

Loans? Maybe we will go from not wanting any to having our full 5 quota. All part of the "project."

[lraC]

Taking what was said before a ball was kicked, it was suggested that we had a stronger squad than last year.

In total crap, as we know. 

[Roverthechimp]

5 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

A club of our stature, spent pretty much twenty years in the top flight, stuck down here since and one manager has been sacked (and that was too late) in a decade.

As always, not normal.

And it required Paul Senior to do the firing - something that, arguably, could be construed to have cost him his own job/position 🤔 

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

 

[Roverthechimp]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

 

I think VI is cleverly disguising our true intentions - definitely scouring the markets for 2 maybe even 3 tining forks and a squeegee... Dependant on the market (ie if Aldi have a special on or not) they might turn to the LCC and discuss the possibility of loans...

[KentExile]

8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

 

"I have to say this (managing Blackburn) is completely different to what I have experienced - very challenging but it's deeper than just the time I have been here," Ismael told BBC Radio Lancashire.

"It's still Blackburn Rovers, we want to see them successful so it's the same job for me and trying to get the most wins we can.

"I have to say it's the most challenging experience (of my career) so far."

 

No shit, and unfortunately, no surprise to us either

Edited 49 minutes ago by KentExile

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, islander200 said:

Do you rate Gestede and Owen?

How can you judge Adam Owen when alot of work will be done behind the scenes which we won't see. 

On Gestede, I think we need experience DoF with knowledge and contacts in the European and world markets.

Gestede hasn't renewed enough contracts of key players or even up and coming players Montgomery and Pratt. That is a massively mistake. Is he solely responsible for transfers, no he isnt, so I dont totally blame but the transfer team(Gestede, Owen, Ismael, Cairney) need to look at what works, what didnt work and what could be done differently. 

[Browjd]

Just watched the interview. He looks knackered, frustrated and it feels all too familiar...Doesn't get the 4 signings he wants and is gone by mid Feb is my guess...

[Roverthechimp]

17 minutes ago, KentExile said:

"I have to say this (managing Blackburn) is completely different to what I have experienced - very challenging but it's deeper than just the time I have been here," Ismael told BBC Radio Lancashire.

"It's still Blackburn Rovers, we want to see them successful so it's the same job for me and trying to get the most wins we can.

"I have to say it's the most challenging experience (of my career) so far."

 

No shit, and unfortunately, no surprise to us either

I'm trying my best to get sacked just like at my previous clubs but nothing i do (or don't do) seems to do the trick...

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Heard it all before. 90% before pre season? Dont believe a word of it.

Loans? Maybe we will go from not wanting any to having our full 5 quota. All part of the "project."

But you dont take into the market of who is available and not. Plus match fitness and UK based. 

For example, if Wrexham's Striker Ryan Hardie is only available for loan given the fact, he is championship experience, know the league and can hit the ground running. Surely you would be interest even if it just a loan or loan to perm deal? 

[KentExile]

1 minute ago, Browjd said:

Just watched the interview. He looks knackered, frustrated and it feels all too familiar...Doesn't get the 4 signings he wants and is gone by mid Feb is my guess...

Its quickly becoming an annual occurrence