Valérien Ismaël: Former Head Coach

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

I keep letting you get away with this selective stupidity to avoid embarrassing you.

I've had enough. Lets nip it in your little bud.

When Eustace left you got all hissy and upset when i suggested he left simply for an extra 15k a week. It really upset you for some really weird reason. 

He left in February. Three months before the end of last season. Who in their right mind would predict results for the following season????

Certainly not me. So either put up or shut up. Show me these posts you keep referencing in my name.

And when you can't, have the courtesy to apologise.

Why you constantly insist on being the class clown i have absolutely no idea.

 

 

Obviously he left because it's an absolute shit show here and he felt Derby were a Club with ambition. And results this season are completely bearing that out.

Nothing whatsoever to do with the alleged extra £15k p.w. you've always been seemingly obsessed about.

Being proved completely wrong and turning abusive.

Well done. I wasn't rude with you.

[onlyonejackwalker]

11 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

My wish certainly isn't Mowbray but it's a more logical choice than Duff to anyone who actually stops and thinks about it for 3 seconds.

The only reason folk are thinking Mowbray is a good choice is he got us promoted from the lower division. Ie already planning for relegation.

I'm trying to be a bit more proactive.

If as you've said you don't want Mowbray, or anyone formerly connected to the club, and having had more than 3 seconds to think it through, lets hear your suggestion.

I'm sure its going to be errmmm biblical.

[JBiz]

Will Still (be owned by the Raos)?

[onlyonejackwalker]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Obviously he left because it's an absolute shit show here and he felt Derby were a Club with ambition. And results this season are completely bearing that out.

Nothing whatsoever to do with the alleged extra £15k p.w. you've always been seemingly obsessed about.

Being proved completely wrong and turning abusive.

Well done. I wasn't rude with you.

Ah, so you are not going to show me the posts? Thought not.

Rude? You are the one making up stupid comments i never said.

I've let it slide, but you are boring me now, you are not a kid so behave yourself.

[Tomphil2]

8 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

The only reason folk are thinking Mowbray is a good choice is he got us promoted from the lower division. Ie already planning for relegation.

I'm trying to be a bit more proactive.

If as you've said you don't want Mowbray, or anyone formerly connected to the club, and having had more than 3 seconds to think it through, lets hear your suggestion.

I'm sure its going to be errmmm biblical.

I think you'd be more suited to the Beano than the bible son.

[onlyonejackwalker]

1 minute ago, Tomphil2 said:

I think you'd be more suited to the Beano than the bible son.

Predictable.

Take as long as you need.

[Tomphil2]

9 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Predictable.

Take as long as you need.

I've already covered it several times over even before he was potted but seeing as you only grace us with your special brand of arrogance occasionally i'll repeat it.

Look no further than Gary Rowett.

I also said Duff would be fine as a punt if we were ambling along safely going nowhere or it was summer.

 

[Vinjay]

1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said:

My wish certainly isn't Mowbray but it's a more logical choice than Duff to anyone who actually stops and thinks about it for 3 seconds.

If it's consistent with the last 15 years it probably will be duff...and I don't mean Damien. When did he suddenly become volatile? 

Edited 11 hours ago by Vinjay

[philipl]

Timing of the sacking on transfer deadline day is just weird.

It is as though the Raos now have so little time to be bothered with Rovers that they have been relying on monthly bs reports from Pasha - injuries, refs, unusual monsoon weather, underlying financial plan working, blah blah - but suddenly noticed match day receipts falling off a cliff and the league table in the January month end report and panicked.

Pasha gets a carpeting and Ishmael gets the chop.

This could be opportunity knocks for Damien Johnson and not a case of a planned replacement 

[USABlue]

5 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Obviously in isolation (overall its not the important thing) its fantastic to see a terrible manager leave.

Mind you, I am not convinced it was purely the clubs decision. Hence mutual termination. Even someone who seemed so "aligned" presumably has had enough of the shit players thrown his way.

Under no circumstances should we give it to Johnson until the end of the season, even if he wins a game or 2.

Why should we not give it to DJ if he strings some results together.

[USABlue]

Had JDT been suitably backed we would have had Premier League Footy by now.  So, what the hell difference does it make how good of a manager we get.  The best and brightest don not get backed and leave with us looking good for playoffs.  Venkies gotta go all there is to it unless that happens we are on a merry go round, a slide more like.

[rigger]

The new title of this topic has brightend my day.

[Ricceh]

Pasha and Rudy probably lied to him about how far along negotiations were and then did the old "oh the deadline is today?" work scramble.

[John]

Catching up, so not sure if this has already been mentioned… I was listening to the BBC Lancs Nixon interview and, apparently, VI has not been happy with the quality of signings, and problems with Gestede have been brewing for a few weeks. The club is also unhappy that he has not been playing some of the new signings.

VI was a poor coach/manager, but - as we know - we are always going to have problems with this structure and the personnel (RG / SS) around it.

[alexanders]

Which one of the new signings didn’t he play? Kargbo? Gueye? 

[Ferrit]

13 hours ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Nixon also said Ismael is a good manager.

He also said man united were after Pears

People need to stop listening to this clown. 

[alexanders]

7 hours ago, philipl said:

Timing of the sacking on transfer deadline day is just weird.

It is as though the Raos now have so little time to be bothered with Rovers that they have been relying on monthly bs reports from Pasha - injuries, refs, unusual monsoon weather, underlying financial plan working, blah blah - but suddenly noticed match day receipts falling off a cliff and the league table in the January month end report and panicked.

Pasha gets a carpeting and Ishmael gets the chop.

This could be opportunity knocks for Damien Johnson and not a case of a planned replacement 

It really isnt weird though. Deadline day was right after an important home match and before an even more important home match against Sheff Weds where only a win is good enough. It was necessary to do something. 

[Tomphil2]

7 hours ago, philipl said:

Timing of the sacking on transfer deadline day is just weird.

It is as though the Raos now have so little time to be bothered with Rovers that they have been relying on monthly bs reports from Pasha - injuries, refs, unusual monsoon weather, underlying financial plan working, blah blah - but suddenly noticed match day receipts falling off a cliff and the league table in the January month end report and panicked.

Pasha gets a carpeting and Ishmael gets the chop.

This could be opportunity knocks for Damien Johnson and not a case of a planned replacement 

As someone has already mentioned they probably just signed off the use of whatever money was available to pay off Ismael and his crew instead of bringing more players in.

Should have been done weeks ago then they could've shifted a few fringe men out and got a couple more in but we know how they dither.

As i said someone has finally got big Barrys attention.

[alexanders]

13 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

As someone has already mentioned they probably just signed off the use of whatever money was available to pay off Ismael and his crew instead of bringing more players in.

Should have been done weeks ago then they could've shifted a few fringe men out and got a couple more in but we know how they dither.

As i said someone has finally got big Barrys attention.

Based on results thoug; December wasnt that bad, January have been horrible and it was time to say goodbye. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Any normal club would have been quietly looking around at the up and coming managers in the Football League. Even when you’re relatively happy with the current one. So when the decision is made you’re good to go.  When we were a normal club that’s what we did, when Ken Furphy moved up we already had Gordon Lee in mind. When Lee moved up we had Jim Smith in mind. That’s when we had a board that was well thought off in the football world.

[sharpysharps86]

I'm a bit confused by the comments on Radio Lancs last night suggesting that a fallout between Ismael and Gestede was partially down to Ismael not playing some of the new signings. I feel like all of the players brought in over the last couple of windows have had a fair go when not injured.

Not defending Ismael, he's clearly a rubbish head coach, but I thought that was a weird reason.

[Tomphil2]

Probably Gestede unhappy that Baradji and De Neve and Henriksson weren't starting every game.

All just brought here to increase in value and move on quickly.

[roverblue]

It makes sense if Ismael has finally lost it with the clowns above him. He definitely should have been sacked based on results but it was clear they didn't plan to.

I could easily see him steaming into Rudy and Pasha for the abysmal signings over summer and now in January, I was amazed he hadn't lost his head over the Hyam sale to be honest.

Any other manager would have walked after they did that.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

26 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Probably Gestede unhappy that Baradji and De Neve and Henriksson weren't starting every game.

All just brought here to increase in value and move on quickly.

The only way you’d make money on DeNeve is to sell his body parts on the dark web !

[DeeCee]

Well I was convinced that Val was here for the long haul, alignment and all that.  The fact that he's gone on deadline day suggests to me that it was something that has happened recently, maybe the loss against Hull was the final straw or maybe the lack of incomings pushed Val over the limit?

Either way, I was totally wrong 🤪