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Posted
12 hours ago, KentExile said:

Would "bids" need to be made for someone like Tyjon who hasn't even signed a professional deal yet? I thought it would be similar to Phillips who could have just gone for a bit of compo before he signed his first pro deal with his £2m release clause in it.

10 hours ago, Tugayisgod said:

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Nonsense that account is.

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Would "bids" need to be made for someone like Tyjon who hasn't even signed a professional deal yet? I thought it would be similar to Phillips who could have just gone for a bit of compo before he signed his first pro deal with his £2m release clause in it.

Yes, he has signed a scholarship contract which ties him to the club until the summer of 2026. 

Phillips signed both a scholarship contract (at the time he was still going by Famuyiwa rather than Phillips), & then a pro contract for the maximum time allowed of 3 years given his age.  The pro contract was the contract with a release clause included

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Posted
1 minute ago, KentExile said:

Yes, he has signed a scholarship contract which ties him to the club until the summer of 2026. 

Phillips signed both a scholarship contract, & then a pro contract for the maximum time allowed of 3 years given his age.  The pro contract was the contract with a release clause included

Yes, but my point is that would bids of over a million need to be submitted for someone who is on a scholarship contract?

As I remember Gregg saying that if we hadn't have tied Phillips down to a pro deal with a release clause, then we would have got just a few hundred grand compo instead, or does that just come in when the scholarship ends and he technically becomes a free agent?

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Yes, but my point is that would bids of over a million need to be submitted for someone who is on a scholarship contract?

As I remember Gregg saying that if we hadn't have tied Phillips down to a pro deal with a release clause, then we would have got just a few hundred grand compo instead, or does that just come in when the scholarship ends and he technically becomes a free agent?

Yes

Assuming that the story is true and Man Utd, Chelsea & Liverpool are all chasing him, and want to sign Tyjon whilst he is still under contract, a bid has to be made and accepted.

If Tyjon has made his mind up already & Man Utd are happy to wait a year, then ias long as Rovers offer him a deal, it would then come down to compensation at a tribunal (unless the clubs agree a fee)

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Posted
11 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Do we actually know our budget? 

Gestede has said similar as this season and Ismael has said about getting signings in early and in time for pre season camp in Spurs

You just answered your question there

I did indeed. 

I think it would be better to target a younger centre back who can come in and develop over the season. Danny Batth would unlikely be given another contract after next season, so the new CB can then move up the pecking order the following season.

We wouldn't be able to keep Carter, Hyam, Wharton, Batth and another CB all happy, if they were all fit to play

Posted (edited)

Mustapha Bundu would be a coup;

  • Free Agent at the end of the season, not currently on huge wages.
  • 10 goals and 6 assists for a terrible Plymouth this season.
  • One of Kargbo's pals as well, a fellow Sierra Leone international (remember they snapped a pic together when we played).

Makes a lot of sense, he's fast, dangerous in attack and clearly hitting his prime.

On the other hand, I imagine other suitors would probably come in with better offers than us... but hopefully the Club show at least a little ambition and give it a go!

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Posted
12 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It always baffles me how we dont deem certain youngsters worthy of any minutes in our first team yet Premier League Clubs obviously think they're worth a punt.

It's not even a gamble to a club like Utd, City Arsenal, Spurs etc.

Pay £1m, which is literally nothing to those clubs, stick him on a 5 year contract, loan him out for 2 seasons (recouping the £1m in loan fees in the process), if it works out great, if not, just flog him.

The whole system is bullshit, totally broken and just geared up for the big clubs.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

It's not even a gamble to a club like Utd, City Arsenal, Spurs etc.

Pay £1m, which is literally nothing to those clubs, stick him on a 5 year contract, loan him out for 2 seasons (recouping the £1m in loan fees in the process), if it works out great, if not, just flog him.

The whole system is bullshit, totally broken and just geared up for the big clubs.

I agree with what you are saying, but we are just as guilty as them just on a smaller scale.

We poached Tyjon from Rochdale for I imagine peanuts, then will probably make over a million quid for just developing him.

We're the middle men in such a food chain.

The system all around is completely wrong.

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Posted
Just now, MarkBRFC said:

I agree with what you are saying, but we are just as guilty as them just on a smaller scale.

We poached Tyjon from Rochdale for I imagine peanuts, then will probably make over a million quid for just developing him.

We're the middle men in such a food chain.

The system all around is completely wrong.

Don't hate the players, hate the game

Posted
29 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

Mustapha Bundu would be a coup;

  • Free Agent at the end of the season, not currently on huge wages.
  • 10 goals and 6 assists for a terrible Plymouth this season.
  • One of Kargbo's pals as well, a fellow Sierra Leone international (remember they snapped a pic together when we played).

Makes a lot of sense, he's fast, dangerous in attack and clearly hitting his prime.

On the other hand, I imagine other suitors would probably come in with better offers than us... but hopefully the Club show at least a little ambition and give it a go!

 

29 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

Mustapha Bundu would be a coup;

  • Free Agent at the end of the season, not currently on huge wages.
  • 10 goals and 6 assists for a terrible Plymouth this season.
  • One of Kargbo's pals as well, a fellow Sierra Leone international (remember they snapped a pic together when we played).

Makes a lot of sense, he's fast, dangerous in attack and clearly hitting his prime.

On the other hand, I imagine other suitors would probably come in with better offers than us... but hopefully the Club show at least a little ambition and give it a go!

Coup seems a bit strong. Potentially a useful and clever pickup but his career is really nomadic and this is the first season really where hes done ok at 28. 

Posted
9 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Gueye 1m. Kargbo 1m or just under. The other 3 a combined million.

Toth was £1m. Source Elliott Jackson..

All transfers fees were undisclosed so who is your source on these fees?.

I read Cantwell was 600k plus, Ohashi 200k, Karbgo 1m plus adds on, Gueye 1.2m and Toth 1m. 

We see in the clubs account. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Toth was £1m. Source Elliott Jackson..

All transfers fees were undisclosed so who is your source on these fees?.

I read Cantwell was 600k plus, Ohashi 200k, Karbgo 1m plus adds on, Gueye 1.2m and Toth 1m. 

We see in the clubs account. 

The point is not even about the fees. None of us know.

Its of you believing everything everyone says.

Posted
1 hour ago, davulsukur said:

I did indeed. 

I think it would be better to target a younger centre back who can come in and develop over the season. Danny Batth would unlikely be given another contract after next season, so the new CB can then move up the pecking order the following season.

We wouldn't be able to keep Carter, Hyam, Wharton, Batth and another CB all happy, if they were all fit to play

Fair enough 

Posted
1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

The point is not even about the fees. None of us know.

Its of you believing everything everyone says.

Stop your obsess with points scoring bullshit again. It's boring. 

I have answered your point the first time you asked. Yet you go on and on like boring old record stuck on play 

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Bohinen1983 said:

Perhaps an extra center half - we fell apart when Batth was out..

Scotty Wharton back next season I hope.

And Carter.

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Posted
5 hours ago, Bohinen1983 said:

I think we need:

A ball carrying center mid.

Another pacey winger.

More quality up front.

Perhaps an extra center half - we fell apart when Batth was out..

 

Ill predict we'll get none of the first 3. We've needed more quality up front since Adam Armstrong left but (decent) strikers cost money.

On the CH positions, hopefully Scott Wharton will be back and somewhere near his best. I hope we give Batth a new deal. Carter should be back but will he be sold? I certainly wouldnt be averse to selling Hyam if we can get our money back on him as I dont rate him at all. He's only any use with someone like Batth or Wharton playing particularly well alongside him.

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Posted

Hyam also had a very good spell alongside Carter under Tomasson.

Carter seems to be still seen as our biggest asset but for those 2 years since its been a mixture of injuries and poor form.

Hyam is a good defender at this level. Being signed by Broughton wont help his reputation with you though.

Posted
5 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

I agree with what you are saying, but we are just as guilty as them just on a smaller scale.

We poached Tyjon from Rochdale for I imagine peanuts, then will probably make over a million quid for just developing him.

We're the middle men in such a food chain.

The system all around is completely wrong.

What about Phillips and the Irish fella?

Posted
5 hours ago, TheRevAshton said:

Mustapha Bundu would be a coup;

  • Free Agent at the end of the season, not currently on huge wages.
  • 10 goals and 6 assists for a terrible Plymouth this season.
  • One of Kargbo's pals as well, a fellow Sierra Leone international (remember they snapped a pic together when we played).

Makes a lot of sense, he's fast, dangerous in attack and clearly hitting his prime.

On the other hand, I imagine other suitors would probably come in with better offers than us... but hopefully the Club show at least a little ambition and give it a go!

Ahhh it was all going so well there until the part where you said we would have to show a little ambition. Next!

Posted
8 hours ago, Bohinen1983 said:

I think we need:

A ball carrying center mid.

Another pacey winger.

More quality up front.

Perhaps an extra center half - we fell apart when Batth was out..

 

All sorted, without spending much.

A ball carrying center mid - Forshaw

Another pacey winger - Markanday

More quality up front. - Jack Vale

Perhaps an extra center half - we fell apart when Batth was out.. - S.Wharton

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Posted (edited)

I’ll get Bundu tapped up. I know quite a few lads who are still in touch with him from his time playing non league at Hereford. He was at Hartbury on a scholarship at the time and had a good season with Hereford. I’ve enjoyed seeing him do well. The other player from around that time was Dara O’Shea who always looked steady but nothing special. He’s gone on to have a very good career. 

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