Rover1984 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 7 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: ‘Wants big money’ - the blame game begins… The club put themselves in this position with the Cantwell signing. Apart from 10 games or so last season he was a show pony. If he is on 10-15 k more than the top performers at the club there is no surprise they will want to bridge the gap. 1 Quote
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wilsdenrover Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 hours ago, MarkBRFC said: Have they missed out Mafoumbi? I think they must have. 2 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 9 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: I think they must have. The weirdest signing we've ever made. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, MarkBRFC said: Not happening 😉 why? you said the same about the winger we just signed. 1 hour ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said: I wonder how long Ismael will put up with it. Amazes me how many managers don't do their due diligence before coming to the mad house. Ismael has said previously he did his own research on the club and the problems before his appointment yet he since wanted to come here. 1 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 10 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: I think they must have. So it would make Elliots article incorrect then? Thought that Andy Watson was the "best in the business" at this sort of thing?! Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Just now, chaddyrovers said: why? you said the same about the winger we just signed. Bloody hell Chaddy read the last few pages before jumping on that comment. Maybe you will understand the post then. Plus, I never said it about De Neve. 1 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: So it would make Elliots article incorrect then? Thought that Andy Watson was the "best in the business" at this sort of thing?! Hopefully someone will be along shortly to clarify why Mafoumbi wouldn’t be an ESC player. I was wrong about something yesterday so I might be 2 for 2 😁😁 Edited 12 hours ago by wilsdenrover 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, BigHoz said: That’s rubbish, nobody deserves to be on as much as brittain, Travis, or tronstad. Our 3 key players should be our highest earners, there isn’t anyone else in the squad who has the right to ask to be on the same as them. They might not do but do you really stop agents asking more money for their players at the club? As I said those 3 players would be the highest earners along with Hyam then other players underneath that. 2 hours ago, MarkBRFC said: Didn't say you have. However, Nixons wording plants the seeds in the wider fanbases mind that they are at fault for wanting too much money so we're better off "cashing in". I don't agree he has reported the story on 1 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: Hopefully someone will be along shortly to clarify why Mafoumbi wouldn’t be an ESC player. I was wrong about something yesterday so I might be 2 for 2 😁😁 Yeah it's possible. I was just expecting it to be referenced in the article, if he was to no longer qualify. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: Bloody hell, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. You hang off Nixon's every word when he says something you like. Now he's posted something which doesn't align with your super positive point of view you're more or less ignoring it. Lol. wrong again, He reported his info just like other journalist and I just post the info or comment on the info. That's all whether Nicko's story is about a target or bid or contract or player maybe leaving us. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 11 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: Bloody hell Chaddy read the last few pages before jumping on that comment. Maybe you will understand the post then. Plus, I never said it about De Neve. Its wonder why yourself Mark. 😁 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said: You arent blaming Rovers? Theres a surprise. This shouldnt be a discussion now, it should have long since be sorted. We shouldnt be coming into a summer where we already need a number of signings having also to manage key contract issues. They should have been offered deals long before now, and we would know either way if they were staying or going. Instead we get excuses. "Lets wait until the end of the season" and "lets wait until we know what division we are in." Last season was built on two things. The managerial ability of Eustace who has now gone and a core of really solid Championship players like Tronstad, Travis, Brittain, Batth, Hyam, Dolan etc and it seens possible that most wont be at the club next season. All to be replaced by players from abroad on cheaper wages. There's a surprise that you are blaming Rovers. So you think we should be paying Travis 30k a week then if that what other clubs like Wrexham and Birmingham are? Yes Gestede should have been on with new contracts during the season but he didn't. We can still get them to sign new contracts even now. 2 Quote
CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 28 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: why? you said the same about the winger we just signed. Ismael has said previously he did his own research on the club and the problems before his appointment yet he since wanted to come here. Well that makes me question him even more, then. He was either naive or desperate and I'm thinking more likely the second option Quote
London blue Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: There's a surprise that you are blaming Rovers. So you think we should be paying Travis 30k a week then if that what other clubs like Wrexham and Birmingham are? Yes Gestede should have been on with new contracts during the season but he didn't. We can still get them to sign new contracts even now. YES. Absolutely. "Clubs like Wrexham". Deary me. 3 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, wilsdenrover said: ‘Wants big money’ - the blame game begins… Yep. The standard Rovers playbook.. 1 Quote
Popular Post roversfan99 Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 49 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: There's a surprise that you are blaming Rovers. So you think we should be paying Travis 30k a week then if that what other clubs like Wrexham and Birmingham are? Yes Gestede should have been on with new contracts during the season but he didn't. We can still get them to sign new contracts even now. You just twist things to make others appear unreasonable. This situation simply should not be happening because the contract situation should not have been allowed to get to this stage. To have all 3 key players admitting publically at Easter that they hadn't been offered a new deal is unacceptable and inexcusable. You acknowledge that we should have offered new deals last season but dismiss if as if it is minor. This Wrexham £30k offer is pure speculation but had we offered him a deal last summer or even after the season had started then Wrexham (or Birmingham) wouldnt have been an option. You say I am blaming Rovers as if its unreasonable considering the dreadful way in which we are run. We are again left in a position where we have multiple key players entering their final year. So amidst an already busy summer, we have these totally avoidable situations. This always seemed inevitable too. Thats the frustrating thing. Yes we can offer new deals now but our negotiating position is now really weak and its all our fault. Edited 11 hours ago by roversfan99 10 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted 10 hours ago Moderation Lead Posted 10 hours ago 53 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: There's a surprise that you are blaming Rovers. So you think we should be paying Travis 30k a week then if that what other clubs like Wrexham and Birmingham are? Yes Gestede should have been on with new contracts during the season but he didn't. We can still get them to sign new contracts even now. We shouldn’t be paying our players miles less than what newly promoted clubs are willing to pay them, there’s no excuse for that. 8 Quote
JHRover Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 55 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: There's a surprise that you are blaming Rovers. So you think we should be paying Travis 30k a week then if that what other clubs like Wrexham and Birmingham are? Yes Gestede should have been on with new contracts during the season but he didn't. We can still get them to sign new contracts even now. The difference between you and I is firstly I don't believe for one second that those clubs will be offering that to Travis, nor will he be demanding that, it is a made up figure to exaggerate the situation and make out like the money required is at crazy/ridiculous levels. This is all part of the regimes strategy - making out like little old Rovers are at the limits of their capabilities, can't compete, are being blown away by richer clubs, poor us. It just isn't true. The reason Travis hasn't signed a new deal is because he hasn't been offered one. He told us this in March, and I'd be surprised indeed if Rovers have done very much since then. Rovers approach to renewing contracts - aside from a brief and ultimately sabotaged spell under Broughton - has been a total failure. Lenihan, Nyambe, Rothwell, Diaz, Dolan, Travis, Tronstad, Brittain, Tens of millions of value flushed away, quality committed players allowed to walk and you seem fine with it. Shoulder shrug. Secondly you seem fine saying 'Gestede should have sorted it'. Shoulder shrug. That isn't good enough in my book. The situation this club has put itself in is not acceptable. 7 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, JHRover said: The difference between you and I is firstly I don't believe for one second that those clubs will be offering that to Travis, nor will he be demanding that, it is a made up figure to exaggerate the situation and make out like the money required is at crazy/ridiculous levels. This is all part of the regimes strategy - making out like little old Rovers are at the limits of their capabilities, can't compete, are being blown away by richer clubs, poor us. It just isn't true. The reason Travis hasn't signed a new deal is because he hasn't been offered one. He told us this in March, and I'd be surprised indeed if Rovers have done very much since then. Rovers approach to renewing contracts - aside from a brief and ultimately sabotaged spell under Broughton - has been a total failure. Lenihan, Nyambe, Rothwell, Diaz, Dolan, Travis, Tronstad, Brittain, Tens of millions of value flushed away, quality committed players allowed to walk and you seem fine with it. Shoulder shrug. Secondly you seem fine saying 'Gestede should have sorted it'. Shoulder shrug. That isn't good enough in my book. The situation this club has put itself in is not acceptable. And that failure to even get a contract in front of Travis (or indeed any of our 3 key players) ultimately is the critical part. We are now left in a fairly helpless, really weak position. Anything around that inability to get a concrete offer down long before now becomes somewhat immaterial. We have missed our chance. As you say, its been dismissed and shrugged aside. If we had offered him a deal last summer or even after the season had started, at that point, he would have obviously had twice as long to run on his deal, he wouldnt have just had that extra strong season as credit in the back and crucially, if we assume there is any truth in these convenient rumours, we wouldnt be being blown out the water by clubs who were then in League 1. You dont expect us to pay £30k do you is such a brainless counter argument. That shouldnt be a question that needs to be asked and wouldnt if we were run with a semblance of order. 7 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 6 minutes ago, JHRover said: The difference between you and I is firstly I don't believe for one second that those clubs will be offering that to Travis, nor will he be demanding that, it is a made up figure to exaggerate the situation and make out like the money required is at crazy/ridiculous levels. This is all part of the regimes strategy - making out like little old Rovers are at the limits of their capabilities, can't compete, are being blown away by richer clubs, poor us. It just isn't true. The reason Travis hasn't signed a new deal is because he hasn't been offered one. He told us this in March, and I'd be surprised indeed if Rovers have done very much since then. Rovers approach to renewing contracts - aside from a brief and ultimately sabotaged spell under Broughton - has been a total failure. Lenihan, Nyambe, Rothwell, Diaz, Dolan, Travis, Tronstad, Brittain, Tens of millions of value flushed away, quality committed players allowed to walk and you seem fine with it. Shoulder shrug. Secondly you seem fine saying 'Gestede should have sorted it'. Shoulder shrug. That isn't good enough in my book. The situation this club has put itself in is not acceptable. I do cos Wrexham throw high wages at players to attract them to the club, That how they attract former PL players. Birmingham owners through money at signings last season like Jay Stansfield over £10m for him for a league 1 club blowing most championship clubs out of the water for signing him. Rovers have held talks with all 3 players now that has been reported by Elliott Jackson. on Diaz, we held talks under JDT and GB but he didn't want to sign. Dolan again GB tried to get him to sign a new contract but couldn't agree. Rothwell didn't want to be here, Nyambe not good enough anyway. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 28 minutes ago, K-Hod said: We shouldn’t be paying our players miles less than what newly promoted clubs are willing to pay them, there’s no excuse for that. Wrexham paid big players to attract former PL players there otherwise they wouldn't be going there. 1 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: There's a surprise that you are blaming Rovers. So you think we should be paying Travis 30k a week then if that what other clubs like Wrexham and Birmingham are? Yes Gestede should have been on with new contracts during the season but he didn't. We can still get them to sign new contracts even now. @rigger Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 22 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: You just twist things to make others appear unreasonable. This situation simply should not be happening because the contract situation should not have been allowed to get to this stage. To have all 3 key players admitting publically at Easter that they hadn't been offered a new deal is unacceptable and inexcusable. You acknowledge that we should have offered new deals last season but dismiss if as if it is minor. This Wrexham £30k offer is pure speculation but had we offered him a deal last summer or even after the season had started then Wrexham (or Birmingham) wouldnt have been an option. You say I am blaming Rovers as if its unreasonable considering the dreadful way in which we are run. We are again left in a position where we have multiple key players entering their final year. So amidst an already busy summer, we have these totally avoidable situations. This always seemed inevitable too. Thats the frustrating thing. Yes we can offer new deals now but our negotiating position is now really weak and its all our fault. I don't twisted sod all RF99, its yourself you twist the points some of us make to suit your argument. The situation is actually happened and even if we had offered Travis last season would that have stopped other clubs for bidding for him, not at all. my question was simple one which you completely avoid answering again. You can't answer such simple questions, you just muddling the waters 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago i suspect that contracts for travis and brittain are more a case of the players wanting to get out of the rancidly run club rather than it being a case of money,as a player you always want to go to a higher level,they ar`nt going to do it with us,there is zero ambition at blackburn rovers 2 Quote
Gamst Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: I do cos Wrexham throw high wages at players to attract them to the club, That how they attract former PL players. Birmingham owners through money at signings last season like Jay Stansfield over £10m for him for a league 1 club blowing most championship clubs out of the water for signing him. Rovers have held talks with all 3 players now that has been reported by Elliott Jackson. on Diaz, we held talks under JDT and GB but he didn't want to sign. Dolan again GB tried to get him to sign a new contract but couldn't agree. Rothwell didn't want to be here, Nyambe not good enough anyway. We have multi-billionaire owners. They can afford to match the wages that Wrexham are offering. They can afford to renew contracts of our key players and invest modestly in new signings. Owners with a fraction of their wealth invest considerably more because they actually care! As owners they don’t have to invest, it’s entirely up to them, but what is the point of owning the club if you can’t even be willing to renew contracts? 8 Quote
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