Popular Post JHRover Posted July 8 Popular Post Posted July 8 2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Contract update in the LT. We still havent even bothered to offer them terms, even provisionally. Unacceptable and totally overshadows our transfer window. The Regime must be starting to worry about a lack of bids for those players by now, so have got the Telegraph doing some advertising for them. 'Not close to a breakthrough' Someone needs to ask Gestede who he was referring to in March/April when he said talks were close to a conclusion and announcements soon to be made. Another lie? 19 Quote
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Forever Blue Posted July 8 Posted July 8 41 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: I thought better of you.Β Itβs just a tweet I saw. I have no idea who the tweeter is or how reliable they are. Itβs a transfer thread. Please try and contribute.Β Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 14 minutes ago, JHRover said: The Regime must be starting to worry about a lack of bids for those players by now, so have got the Telegraph doing some advertising for them. 'Not close to a breakthrough' Someone needs to ask Gestede who he was referring to in March/April when he said talks were close to a conclusion and announcements soon to be made. Another lie? Has to be another lie. Not sure how we can be close to a breakthrough without even offering a contract or talking numbers. 1 Quote
KentExile Posted July 8 Posted July 8 (edited) 8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Has to be another lie. Not sure how we can be close to a breakthrough without even offering a contract or talking numbers. Rudy - "If we make you an acceptable offer and invest in the squad, would you be happy to sign?" Brittain/Travis/Tronstad - "yes sure" Rudy - "great, it sounds like we are close to a breakthrough.Β What if we offer you slightly less than that and do not invest in the playing squad?"" Edited July 8 by KentExile Quote
Tomphil2 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Managed decline course to 10k pwk and under firmly set into the radar whilst obscure relegated overseas teams are scoured for the new (5k a week) Travis, Tronstad, Brittain etc etc. AKAΒ The FutureΒ Β 7 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Its pathetic in all honestyΒ they will dress it up saying thereβs another year left plenty of time etc but thats not how it should workΒ reading between the lines looks like Brittain will sign but Travis/tronstad likely go on a free next summer or trav goes this windowΒ 4 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 8 Posted July 8 17 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Managed decline course to 10k pwk and under firmly set into the radar whilst obscure relegated overseas teams are scoured for the new (5k a week) Travis, Tronstad, Brittain etc etc. AKAΒ The FutureΒ Β Itβs Brittain signs it will debunk the 10k rumour but there is no doubt penny pinching is in play across the club at the momentΒ 3 Quote
DutchRover Posted July 8 Posted July 8 No surprise here at all, and it's a shame the coalition has gone so quiet as there is so much ammunition from this transfer window already. Pathetic not to even offer deals and yet peddle line in media that we're trying, just say we can't or won't pay them, stop pretending otherwise. 2 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 13 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Itβs Brittain signs it will debunk the 10k rumour but there is no doubt penny pinching is in play across the club at the momentΒ Not really we've no idea how much he's already on he came from relegated Barnsley and realistically he isn't going to be here much longer even if he does sign. They can't just slash the wage bill overnight it'll be a short/medium term plan where every one out is replaced by a much lower paid 'project' to increase in value and sell. The aim will be to have an entire squad like that, no more Batths etc but it will take a few windows to achieve it. No rush right now with transfer income still dripping in but beyond next summer i expect the need will be a vastly reduced wage bill so they are doing the groundwork now. I stand to be corrected but i'd be very surprised if so but you never know with these lot however imo the Indian finance man and Suhail are running the whole show now. 2 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted July 8 Posted July 8 1 hour ago, Forever Blue said: Itβs just a tweet I saw. I have no idea who the tweeter is or how reliable they are. Itβs a transfer thread. Please try and contribute.Β "Please try and contribute" ππ meow.Β Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 8 Posted July 8 20 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Not really we've no idea how much he's already on he came from relegated Barnsley and realistically he isn't going to be here much longer even if he does sign. They can't just slash the wage bill overnight it'll be a short/medium term plan where every one out is replaced by a much lower paid 'project' to increase in value and sell. The aim will be to have an entire squad like that, no more Batths etc but it will take a few windows to achieve it. No rush right now with transfer income still dripping in but beyond next summer i expect the need will be a vastly reduced wage bill so they are doing the groundwork now. I stand to be corrected but i'd be very surprised if so but you never know with these lot however imo the Indian finance man and Suhail are running the whole show now. Agree with a lot of that I just donβt think thereβs a 10k cap at present (just a personal opinion) could well be next season I just donβt see it as a blanket decision now brittain is on 10k already if he negotiating new terms it wonβt be for the same so again if he signs id say itβs fair to assume no blanket 10k cap if not then obviously thereβs something in place either way financially from the outside looking in we are being handcuffedΒ Quote
Mercer Posted July 8 Posted July 8 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: Contract update in the LT. We still havent even bothered to offer them terms, even provisionally. Unacceptable and totally overshadows our transfer window. Read the LT and key bits to me are: Tronstad:Β 'There are no direct negotiations yet over the terms of any new deal. It's not a back-and-forth dialogue over numbers, length or structure of the contract yet'Β Β Staggeringly bad. Travis:Β 'It's understood that numbers have been discussed but a written offer hasn't been made to be accepted or rejected, at this stage.Β Β He is not pushing to leave the club but any renewal has to be right for all parties, with Travis one of Blackburn's top earners already'.Β Β My view, Rovers know what Travis wants and wont play ball -Β any renewal has to be right for all parties, pitch rolling for departure, 'the player wanted too much'! Brittain:Β 'Though there's been no indication that negotiations have stalled but, equally, there's been no official announcement that he has signed up'.Β Β Think Brittain and agent looking to see what's out there. IMO, all in all, totally unacceptable and unprofessional. 9 Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Champagne tastes with Beer Money..our so called Billionaire Owners are not even offering that. 3 Quote
London blue Posted July 8 Posted July 8 They simply do not want to renew either contract, as they didn't want to renew Dolan's. It's not about it being "right for both parties", they don't want these players at the club, period. 6 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Agree with a lot of that I just donβt think thereβs a 10k cap at present (just a personal opinion) could well be next season I just donβt see it as a blanket decision now brittain is on 10k already if he negotiating new terms it wonβt be for the same so again if he signs id say itβs fair to assume no blanket 10k cap if not then obviously thereβs something in place either way financially from the outside looking in we are being handcuffedΒ My understanding of the 'rumour' is no incoming's on over 10k per week but at the end of the day it's just rumour however all signs point to them wanting bigger earners gone. Estimates are just that, for instance Brittain was estimated to be on 3/4k pwk at Barnsley so i'm not sure he jumped straight to ten 10pwk here IF we are believing estimates. Personally i'd expect him to be on 7/8k pwk on his current deal but probably wants north of 10 on his next one.Β We also need to consider a lot of contracts at Rovers are heavily bonus orientated so he very well could raking in over 10 already due to that. As you say though the handcuffs are being put firmly on the wrists moving forwards but we still have the likes of Cantwell on estimated 20-30 grand a week, Hyam etc who'll be on double figures so it's an odd mumbo jumbo of a payroll anyway. There cannot be any doubt though we have lost, missed out on and will continue to lose good players because of a reluctance to pay the going rate. Edited July 8 by Tomphil2 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted July 8 Posted July 8 4 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: My understanding of the 'rumour' is no incoming's on over 10k per week but at the end of the day it's just rumour however all signs point to them wanting bigger earners gone. Estimates are just that, for instance Brittain was estimated to be on 3/4k pwk at Barnsley so i'm not sure he jumped straight to ten 10pwk here IF we are believing estimates. Personally i'd expect him to be on 7/8k pwk on his current deal but probably wants north of 10 on his next one.Β We also need to consider a lot of contracts at Rovers are heavily bonus orientated so he very well could raking in over 10 already due to that. As you say though the handcuffs are being put firmly on the wrists moving forwards but we still have the likes of Cantwell on estimated 20-30 grand a week, Hyam etc who'll be on double figures so it's an odd mumbo jumbo of a payroll anyway. There cannot be any doubt though we have lost, missed out on and will continue to lose good players because of a reluctance to pay the going rate. Are any of us really surprised. These are the people that thought they could run the club on an annual investment of Β£5 million when the bought Rovers. 1 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted July 8 Posted July 8 If the rumours of wanting big earners gone are true then I'm shocked that Cantwell isn't being flogged this summer. 2 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted July 8 Posted July 8 5 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: If the rumours of wanting big earners gone are true then I'm shocked that Cantwell isn't being flogged this summer. Nobody is buying Cantwell at present. Probably happy to ride it out with him hoping he has a good season and selling him next summer when he's in the last year of his contract. 2 Quote
Mercer Posted July 8 Posted July 8 3 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: If the rumours of wanting big earners gone are true then I'm shocked that Cantwell isn't being flogged this summer. Who would want to sign Cantwell on those wages after the season he had with us? A performance level last season similar to Brittain, Travis, Tronstad etc then I think he would be well down the road by now!Β 7 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted July 8 Posted July 8 3 hours ago, JHRover said: The Regime must be starting to worry about a lack of bids for those players by now, so have got the Telegraph doing some advertising for them. 'Not close to a breakthrough' Someone needs to ask Gestede who he was referring to in March/April when he said talks were close to a conclusion and announcements soon to be made. Another lie? Other clubs know our pants are down, theyβre now just waiting for us to bend over. Quote
Rogerb Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Don't know how anyone can be surprised by this with Pasha's stated aim in the spring to move away from the benefactor model . Quote
... Posted July 8 Posted July 8 5 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: Other clubs know our pants are down, theyβre now just waiting for us to bend over. I can confirm, and I speak for many, as a fan, I'm already biting the pillow. Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Absolutely ridiculous we haven't offered them a contract. Can't help but believe that Β£10k wage cap is genuine. 2 Quote
Ghost7 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 3 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Contract update in the LT. We still havent even bothered to offer them terms, even provisionally. Unacceptable and totally overshadows our transfer window. Madness. What kind of message does this send to any high performing player at Rovers. You might still never hear from us with a new contract no matter how well you do...... pathetic leadership and convoluted ownership, unable to get any results. This isn't how football clubs are ran!!!! #Venky's Out!Β 4 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted July 8 Posted July 8 33 minutes ago, ... said: I can confirm, and I speak for many, as a fan, I'm already biting the pillow. Gone on ahead have you ππ Quote
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