2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Tomphil2]

Big Dom might just be one to benefit if there is now a bit of panic behind the scenes he might get an offer he wasn't expecting.

Like any gaffer worth his salt i'm sure Ismael is recommending his bosses now tie down who they can for the sake of dressing room moral.  Gaffers have to either get senior players onside or get them out otherwise it'll never work.

Consider this though if they do offer Hyam something and he also says no it's another great excuse to get another bigger earner out the door.

[RevidgeBlue]

30 minutes ago, Torgeir said:

Can’t believe our luck sometimes also… stress fracture. How severe can it be if he didn’t notice?

Something a bit fishy about this story. No doubt this is the last we'll ever hear about this player but  If he does have a stress fracture, why dont we go back in for him in 6 weeks? He'll be fit by then.

It's also not the first time it's happened relatively recently, the other time was Josh Maja who apparently turned out to have a cracked vertebrae when we ran a medical.

Incredibly unfortunate for it to happen twice, statistically probably extremely unlikely.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

9 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Carter's injury proneness has become a real problem. I feel for him, but the team needs someone more reliable to partner Hyam.

We also can't expect Scott Wharton to just fill the void after his own long term injury. The club desperately needs a replacement for Danny Batth.

Club have said they aren't replacing Batth. 

[RevidgeBlue]

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Why was he so good in his first season then? 

He wasn't. He was good up until about Christmas of his first season.

No real point calling him though as he's probably as good as we're likely to get and I've no doubt he'd re-sign if offered a new deal as unlike Brittain and Travis I doubt there'd be much interest in him from elsewhere.

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

He wasn't. He was good up until about Christmas of his first season.

No real point calling him though as he's probably as good as we're likely to get and I've no doubt he'd re-sign if offered a new deal as unlike Brittain and Travis I doubt there'd be much interest in him from elsewhere.

Aye, the player of the season wasnt very good.

Clearly have an agenda. Batth was obviously really good last season but we wouldnt have done so well defensively based on one of the two centre backs carrying the other. We should have just put an academy graduate in if it was all down to Batth.

[JHRover]

1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said:

10-14k more likely, he came from Coventry who were skint.

Funny how no one is queuing up for him with bids seeing as only a year left so it could be a case of happy to extend current terms for a few years extra security.

As has been repeated many times the alleged 10k cap seemed to be aimed at new comers ....and academy grads....

Yes the batch signed in JDTs first summer - Hyam, Brittain, Szmods - were pre further cuts so probably just above the new threshold imposed half way through JDTs second summer. He knew then it was a recipe for disaster and tried to get out. 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

Aye, the player of the season wasnt very good.

There weren't many to choose from after we completely imploded in the second half of the season.

[superniko]

14 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Absolute nonsense.

If you really want to keep Brittain you pay him what he wants and trim the wage bill elsewhere.

What is Forshaw going to bring to the table for example? The square root of bugger all is the answer. Ditto Hedges.

I wouldn't pay Cantwell in washers based on his performances last season yet he is allegedly our top earner by some margin. Terrible value on the face of it.

Another example is Toth. Allegedly on an eye watering  £10k p.w. considering he was on the bench nearly all last season. I'd rather keep Brittain, flog him and promote a young keeper 

Plenty of ways round it IF they really wanted to keep any of the 3 obvious suspects.

Clearly, they don't - in fact Brittain's replacement has been brought in in advance of his departure.

Sensible in one sense, but not if they aren't on the same level.

I think it was also widely reported Foreshaw was on £10k a week last season!!!

Theres an extra £5k per week that could have given to 2 of Brittain / Travis / Tronstad.

Baffling logic going on at this club  

Edited Sunday at 09:26 by superniko

[Tomphil2]

11 minutes ago, superniko said:

I think it was also widely reported Foreshaw was on £10k a week last season!!!

Theres an extra £5k per week that could have given to 2 of Brittain / Travis / Tronstad.

Baffling logic going on at this club  

There is no real logic because there is no real board of directors.

[Hasta]

10 hours ago, bigbrandjohn said:

There is only one constant. Change. 

 A new manager brings a new way of playing and a new style of player to fit the model.

Gestede is a change in personnel and a change in contacts and approach. 

The strategy for keeping players until they are worth nothing has changed. Rothwell, Brereton and Dolan are unlikely to be repeated so anyone not signing contracts a year out will be off. 

The Indian Government is clamping down on foreign investments so a change in investment  approach is required.

If we make more good decisions than bad ones, we are winning. 

Brittain was solid but a sick note for  a good part of the season. Dolan was constantly criticized for chasing  up his own arse much of the time. I am happy to give the new signings  a chance  

It is what it is. Let's trust the process  If it goes tits up then we know what will happen.   

 

 

 

 

 

Gestede was a change in personnel, and since his predecessor was sidelined became responsible for contracts. The refusal to engage with Travis, Tronstadt and Brittain when there was only 18 months left on their contracts was his responsibility.

As regards to the strategy for keeping players until they are worth nothing, that remains to be seen. However it's irrelevant as RG has confirmed the budget for transfers is set and doesnt change regardless of the amount of money we bring in. There is no evidence the money will be reinvested in the squad budget. Therefore, as a fan, if we are not going to re-invest I would rather have one more season out of Travis, Tronstadt and Brittain.

The Indian Goverment is clamping down on people who falsely declare what the money they are sending out was for. If they had spent the money they said was for Rovers on Rovers they wouldnt have had a problem.

I am happy to give the new signings a chance. 

Brittain was in the squad or available for 34 out of 46 league games last season. 45 out of 46 the season before. 33 out of 46 before that. Thats 81% of games over the past 3 seasons. I have no idea where this "sicknote" tag is coming from.

Edited Sunday at 14:02 by Hasta

[Rogerb]

Hyam needs to play as the right CB to get the best out of him.

[RevidgeBlue]

25 minutes ago, superniko said:

I think it was also widely reported Foreshaw was on £10k a week last season!!!

Theres an extra £5k per week that could have given to 2 of Brittain / Travis / Tronstad.

Baffling logic going on at this club  

Also Dennis, allegedly on £20k p.w.

But we've no money for Brittain/ Travis/ Dolan/Tronstad etc.

Absolute insanity.

[JCRovers]

23 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Aye, the player of the season wasnt very good.

Clearly have an agenda. Batth was obviously really good last season but we wouldnt have done so well defensively based on one of the two centre backs carrying the other. We should have just put an academy graduate in if it was all down to Batth.

We often played with a back three or with Hyam partnering with another experienced head (Ayala) back in season 22/23 so to say Hyam is a key player for us is an exaggeration if you ask me. Club awarded Garrett with young player of the season back in 23/24 (after A. Wharton got sold) only for him to not even hold down a starting spot at Bristol Rovers the season after. So club awards doesn't always reflect on how good a player is. 

[roversfan99]

5 minutes ago, JCRovers said:

We often played with a back three or with Hyam partnering with another experienced head (Ayala) back in season 22/23 so to say Hyam is a key player for us is an exaggeration if you ask me. Club awarded Garrett with young player of the season back in 23/24 (after A. Wharton got sold) only for him to not even hold down a starting spot at Bristol Rovers the season after. So club awards doesn't always reflect on how good a player is. 

Young player of the season is often a different ball game. Often given to someone who has just broken through and might have barely played.

[JCRovers]

3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Young player of the season is often a different ball game. Often given to someone who has just broken through and might have barely played.

Sure. What about my other points regarding a back three and partnering with an experienced player (Ayala/Batth); do they hold any merit regarding Hyam's performances? 

[roversfan99]

8 minutes ago, JCRovers said:

Sure. What about my other points regarding a back three and partnering with an experienced player (Ayala/Batth); do they hold any merit regarding Hyam's performances? 

But hes played in a 4 for most of the time here.

As I have said, he probably does benefit from a more experienced player. Im sure all centre backs would. Its just the narrative has escalated to the point where he is totally incompetent without one.

He did well with Carter for half of that season in a back 4 when Carter was on form. His dips in form seem to have come since when next to Carter who has struggled both to stay fit and when he has played to perform for 2 years, but for some reason, no one questions Carter.

[Rover84]

Has the details of Baradgi failed medical details come out or does anyone know what the issue was

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, philipl said:

That is not going to heal quickly

6-8 weeks, apparently.

[Exiled_Rover]

38 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Also Dennis, allegedly on £20k p.w.

But we've no money for Brittain/ Travis/ Dolan/Tronstad etc.

Absolute insanity.

That was left over money in the annual budget.

They won't commit to significant multi-year contracts it seems.

[M_B]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Why was he so good in his first season then? 

I think Batth and Hyam  complemented one another, could be argued if Batth was so good, why did Sunderland let him go. 

[JCRovers]

20 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

But hes played in a 4 for most of the time here.

As I have said, he probably does benefit from a more experienced player. Im sure all centre backs would. Its just the narrative has escalated to the point where he is totally incompetent without one.

He did well with Carter for half of that season in a back 4 when Carter was on form. His dips in form seem to have come since when next to Carter who has struggled both to stay fit and when he has played to perform for 2 years, but for some reason, no one questions Carter.

At 29 years of age with more than 200 appearances in the Championship, you would think Hyam is more than capable of being consistent in his performances, able to provide leadership and help out the younger players like Carter with his experience. What I've seen of him is that he's not a leader, an inconsistent performer and thus becomes a liability in defence if he's partnered with a younger defender. At Coventry, he had McFadzean who provided that leadership. Can't carry a player like that until he retires; he's taking up (reportedly) a salary around 18K per week but is not showing enough to earn it. 

Edited Sunday at 10:37 by JCRovers

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, M_B said:

I think Batth and Hyam  complemented one another, could be argued if Batth was so good, why did Sunderland let him go. 

Ah the good old Chaddy approach. If anyone leaves,

"They were never that good anyway".

[Forever Blue]

13 minutes ago, Rover84 said:

Has the details of Baradgi failed medical details come out or does anyone know what the issue was

Stress fracture of foot according to a post on here this morning

[JBiz]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Ah the good old Chaddy approach. If anyone leaves,

"They were never that good anyway".

The classic BRFCS approach is they’re world beaters when they leave, tbf 

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, JCRovers said:

At 29 years of age with more than 200 appearances in the Championship, you would think Hyam is more than capable of being consistent in his performances, able to provide leadership and help out the younger players like Carter with his expereince. What I've seen of him is that he's not a leader, an inconsistent performer and thus becomes a liability in defence if he's partnered with a younger defender. At Coventry, he had McFadzean who provided that leadership. Can't carry a player like that until he retires; he's taking up (reportedly) a salary around 18K per week but is not showing enough to earn it. 

Great post.