Popular Post cesus Posted 10 hours ago Popular Post Posted 10 hours ago Just for one summer why can't we be normal. Operate like a normal club, offer players with deals coming to an end a new contract, if they don't want it tell them to tell their agent we are after X amount for them to move on.Β If the owners are not willing to spend, working like a normal trading club is more important than ever. Yet for the second season running we have a player refusing to take part in pre season who 100% will leave the club.Β 17 Quote
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Tomphil2 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Impressed enough to take the job and salary on offerΒ none of this information is new to the worldΒ So what he was on the scrapheap and unlikely to be touched by any half decent Championship outfit anytime soon. You don't know the real situation until you've been in the building a while i would have thought that was rather obvious, if in doubt write to Mr J Eustace esquire, Derby. 1 Quote
Neal Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 12 minutes ago, 47er said: Its amazing how many greedy, selfish and disloyal players we've had in recent years! They're all mercenaries. Look at Joao Pedro yesterday pointing to his Chelsea badge π. Brittain was about to sign, got a bigger offer now is forcing a move... The lack of perspective from football fans on this subject is quite shocking.Β 1 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago If Greg Broughton were here I think we would have tied them down personally. 2 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 13 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: He was on Β£300 a week when we rescued him from the PNE scrapheap. He's been on several thousand pounds a week for the majority of his time here - and we know he turned down another pay rise when Broughton was here. He's hardly been hard done to. He thinks the grass is greener - good luck to him. Yes you've highlighted the point well there, three hundred to several thousands so in other words a normal step to a pro contract at this level. Then after 100 plus Championship appearances against, alongside and often out performing lads on 10-20 thousand a week he wants a contract reflecting that and he 'allegedly' turned down one that obviously didn't. So yes good luck to him, non of that detracts from the fact it's a carbon copy of the Nyambe farce except this time it's a better player. Edited 10 hours ago by Tomphil2 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago https://x.com/SebEcrivainFoot/status/1944659463480164506?s=19 Β Β Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: So what he was on the scrapheap and unlikely to be touched by any half decent Championship outfit anytime soon. You don't know the real situation until you've been in the building a while i would have thought that was rather obvious, if in doubt write to Mr J Eustace esquire, Derby. So was Lambert, Mowbray, JDT and Eustace on this scrapheap as you call it Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: So what he was on the scrapheap and unlikely to be touched by any half decent Championship outfit anytime soon. You don't know the real situation until you've been in the building a while i would have thought that was rather obvious, if in doubt write to Mr J Eustace esquire, Derby. What I thought was rather obvious was our bad faith dealings which was played out in public venkys financial issues played out in public manager falling out played out in publicΒ and thatβs just obvious to the fan. VI no doubt would have been aware of all this including the contract situationsΒ Β Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Impressed enough to take the job and salary on offerΒ none of this information is new to the worldΒ Ismael said last season he knew everything that happened before him and he wanted this job. Time people gave up this notion he came into this job without knowing what he was walking in when he accepted the job Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Itβs a blow because he was one of our few attacking strengths. He could put a good ball in without a doubt. It only struck home to me on Saturday when the kid playing in his place got into those attacking positions that Brittain got into and didnβt know what to do with the ball. He wasnβt the worldβs best defender so that side of his game wonβt be missed but our meagre goal threat has just got more meagre. Anybody know what the relegation odds are ? Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: If Greg Broughton were here I think we would have tied them down personally. Dolan didnβt entertain talks with Broughton eitherΒ 1 Quote
RTM08 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: So was Lambert, Mowbray, JDT and Eustace on this scrapheap as you call it All of them but JDT and mayyybe Eustace were definitely on the scrapheap at the time they arrived here. Edited 10 hours ago by RTM08 1 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: What I thought was rather obvious was our bad faith dealings which was played out in public venkys financial issues played out in public manager falling out played out in publicΒ and thatβs just obvious to the fan. VI no doubt would have been aware of all this including the contract situationsΒ Β Aye but when you are sat at home doing nothing living off your previous payout and a contract lands in front of you worth a million quid win, lose, draw, sacked or not sacked you'll not think twice about signing it. Doesn't really matter what horrors await you does it. 2 Quote
KentExile Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: https://x.com/SebEcrivainFoot/status/1944659463480164506?s=19 Β I would be amazed if that happens.Β Like Travis, Tronstad, Brittain &Β Dolan, Hyams wage demands will be more than the club are prepared to pay Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: So was Lambert, Mowbray, JDT and Eustace on this scrapheap as you call it Yes it's where Venky's always recruit our gaffers from haven't you noticed yet ? Would you like to tell us the last time Blackburn Rovers sourced a well performing manager from another club ? Even Derby managed to do that AND pay compensation. 6 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Yes it's where Venky's always recruit our gaffers from haven't you noticed yet ? Would you like to tell us the last time Blackburn Rovers sourced a well performing manager from another club ? Even Derby managed to do that AND pay compensation. Only time we have done it in the venkys era is when we poached Michael Appleton from Blackpool in 2013 for a bit of compo. 3 Quote
jim mk2 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Anybody know what the relegation odds are ? Give me the nod and I'll open the new season's relegation thread 2 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 22 minutes ago, cesus said: Just for one summer why can't we be normal. Operate like a normal club, offer players with deals coming to an end a new contract, if they don't want it tell them to tell their agent we are after X amount for them to move on.Β If the owners are not willing to spend, working like a normal trading club is more important than ever. Yet for the second season running we have a player refusing to take part in pre season who 100% will leave the club.Β They could easily do that if they employed competent, driven people to run the club. Instead they employ their lackey and bleed tens of millions a year (allegedly). I've no idea how they're rich - the poultry business must be a piece of piss if they run their other businesses this poorly. 2 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Aye but when you are sat at home doing nothing living off your previous payout and a contract lands in front of you worth a million quid win, lose, draw, sacked or not sacked you'll not think twice about signing it. Doesn't really matter what horrors await you does it. Exactly my point so I find it hard to have loads of sympathy for him. Saying itβs obvious heβs becoming really frustrated etc well he chose to accept the job do I wish that any new manager in the door is given the proper resources with little to no interference absolutely but thereβs a clear history and patter that isnβt the case so accept the role at your own perilΒ Quote
KentExile Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 14 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: They could easily do that if they employed competent, driven people to run the club. Instead they employ their lackey and bleed tens of millions a year (allegedly). I've no idea how they're rich - the poultry business must be a piece of piss if they run their other businesses this poorly. The business was originally started by their parents, The idiots who own Rovers inherited what was presumably a 20 odd year old successful business with an infrastructure in place to keep it ticking over, and in the time that they have been running it, they (at least look to - on account of the court case etc) have got themselves into hot water with their own government. They are also involved in pharmaceuticals, which isΒ enough to turn us all into anti vaxers at the thought of it πΒ Edited 10 hours ago by KentExile 2 Quote
pick32 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Sell Britain for 3 million and put that towards bringing Drameh in from Hull and Gassama for Sheffield Wednesday. Two good young championship level players with high sell on itβs too simpleΒ 4 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: Only time we have done it in the venkys era is when we poached Michael Appleton from Blackpool in 2013 for a bit of compo. And we only did that because of Derek Shaw, who also just happened to be a business partner of Appleton ! Every other one post Bowyer had been dumped by previous clubs and sat at home for months also allegedly brought in by the same agents. A notable exception for JDT who had great success then left to pursue something different and he himself was an 11th hour appointment after something else fell through. Unsurprisingly to anyone with half a brain he also turned out to be probably the best of the lot even if it was only for a season before the usual gremlins got to work to spoil everything. 2 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Exactly my point so I find it hard to have loads of sympathy for him. Saying itβs obvious heβs becoming really frustrated etc well he chose to accept the job do I wish that any new manager in the door is given the proper resources with little to no interference absolutely but thereβs a clear history and patter that isnβt the case so accept the role at your own perilΒ I don't think he needs nor is looking for sympathy he's just highlighted the things that are wrong here and what he has to deal with and what he'd like to see ironed out whilst he's here. He's just stating the obvious really as all those before him have but he'll soon realise it's pointless. Edited 10 hours ago by Tomphil2 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 10 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: Give me the nod and I'll open the new season's relegation thread Letβs see if we sign anybody worthy of a place in the team. I suspect you wonβt have to wait long Jim. 1 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 6 minutes ago, pick32 said: Sell Britain for 3 million and put that towards bringing Drameh in from Hull and Gassama for Sheffield Wednesday. Two good young championship level players with high sell on itβs too simpleΒ Completely agree, but of all the scenario's that could happen, this one has zero chance. Brittains replacement is already here, and there isn't a chance on earth that we could get Gassama under this regime. 2 Quote
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