2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[JHRover]

8 minutes ago, alexanders said:

I’m not saying they necessarily will be replaced by two better players straight away, but hopefully they will be replaced by to players With more financial upside if they turn out great. When it comes to the experience in the squad; we have Hyam, Wharton, Pickering, Travis, Tronstad, Carter, Cantwell and Hedges to name a few. This is spiced up with some very exciting prospects in Tyjon, Batty, Duru, Montgomery, Riordan. 

'More financial upside' 

Totally pointless issue if a) we don't renew contracts, b) we get relegated or miss promotion because of it, c) well sell them but it all goes into covering Venky losses and not back into the club. 

[Exiled_Rover]

21 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

It’s as well de neve isn’t the weimann replacement and is the Owen beck replacement then 

I think it's more that he's the ACD replacement - he's a winger.

I know he's played LB, but we have Ribeiro and Pickering for LB.

[roversfan99]

5 minutes ago, M_B said:

I don't think anyone can on the one hand complain that the bar has been lowered on signings, then go mad about releasing Batth and Weimann.

It shouldn't be beyond any decent recruitment department to fill those two spots with players of equal/better quality. 

It will take a hell of a signing to replicate the performances that Batth put in last year. I dont get why people are making out as if he is easily replaceable.

[alexanders]

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

'More financial upside' 

Totally pointless issue if a) we don't renew contracts, b) we get relegated or miss promotion because of it, c) well sell them but it all goes into covering Venky losses and not back into the club. 

A very important part of it is not playing old players all the time which blocks the development of the young players. Without saying anything about needing a new RB or LW it is a fact that more bodies makes it tougher for our youth players to be a part of it, even getting 10-15 mins cameos. 

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[Emerald Isle Rover]

3 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I think it's more that he's the ACD replacement - he's a winger.

I know he's played LB, but we have Ribeiro and Pickering for LB.

Only quoting Val who directly compared him to beck 

[JHRover]

15 minutes ago, alexanders said:

Batth turns 36 in Sept and Weimann 34 in August. Keeping them could be smart, but giving a 36 year old a two-year contract is no way to run a football club. Also Weimann turning 34. It’s not very sustainable long-term giving such players contracts. 

Age is irrelevant here. See Adam Forshaw's new deal.

Eustace had us in the top 6 thanks to these sort of players and if we'd have backed him even remotely in January he'd have potentially led us to promotion. I don't think anyone anywhere would have been bothered about how old Danny Batth is/was. Those signings were working a treat for us - that's what sensible clubs do with a limited budget - back a manager working wonders on it and let him keep going - Derby have clearly identified he's a man who can secure results on a meagre budget.

Nobody associated with Rovers can claim there is any sort of sustainable long term plan as much as people would like to convince themselves there is. We change executives and management more often than people change their season tickets, we deliberately let contracts run down making no effort to renew them and fail to invest or build anything remotely sustainable. 

It's a myth, please don't delude yourself that because we've been outdone by Derby on Batth and Weimann that we are following some grand long term sustainable strategy. We're firing into the dark with Gestede following Pasha's instructions because it's the cheapest way and because he might earn a few brownie points in India if a couple of them pay off.

Rovers won't benefit from it either way.

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Nobody said it was controversial. But to be clear, was it not you saying a page or two back that the Hull fella was slow and might not suit the managers way of playing? Surely the same applies to an even slower Batth who you continue to eulogise over (probably because he isn’t here anymore). 
 

It’s almost like you always focus on the negatives in any given situation! 

 

Ah yes, if in doubt say "negativity" to make someone seem unreasonable.

I commented on the link and initially and named at least as many positives as negatives. I even questioned @RoversClitheroe (without reply) who just said it was a terrible signing, or something along those lines. I think he is a decent enough signing.

I praised Batth regularly for his performances and wanted him to stay. The only revisionism is coming from those underplaying how good he actually was. The main reason that I don't expect any new centre back to be as good, in this case McLoughlin if he signs, is mainly because of how good Batth was rather than any shortcomings on any new signing. Whether he would have replicated that, we will never know sadly. 

[neophox]

33 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Well we haven't replaced Batth as yet and I will be amazed if De Neve gets anywhere near what Weimann did last season in terms of impact, goals and assists.  

Hopefully Cantwell does...

[JHRover]

7 minutes ago, alexanders said:

A very important part of it is not playing old players all the time which blocks the development of the young players. Without saying anything about needing a new RB or LW it is a fact that more bodies makes it tougher for our youth players to be a part of it, even getting 10-15 mins cameos. 

Again, why is it preferable to 'develop' 'young players', and in doing so likely sacrifice results, over immediate results which we were getting last season under Eustace and which should have taken us into the play-offs?

Who wins from the strategy you are so happy with?

Rovers? No chance. We sacrifice immediate results under the pretence of a longer term plan. When did we last benefit - really benefit - from a player sale?

The Wharton emergence and sale should have been our golden lottery ticket - once in a generation. And where did we get with that one? Plenty of tweets and back slapping among Rovers and the support base about 'one of our own' but naff all to actually show for it, unless you count remaining in business as being something worth boasting about. 

Gestede benefits because he can claim we are 1 window into a 4,5,6 window process which secures him 3-4 years of employment. 

Venkys benefit because it saves them yet more money.

Pasha stooge benefits because if one or two of these players come good and we sell them, even if its for a small fee, it is all profit and he can get a pat on the back from the money men in India.

Edited 5 hours ago by JHRover

[Tom]

8 minutes ago, ... said:

Anything happened on holiday do cant bothered scrolling 😕 

In short - no!

[neophox]

At the moment we line up like this as our strongest lineup:

Toth

Albieusu, Carter, Hyam, Ribeiro

Tronstad, Travis,

Cantwell

Ohashi, Gueye, Hedges

Subs: Picks, De Neve, Kargbo, Tavares, Tyjon, Buckley, Montgomery, Leonard, Forshaw, Wharton, Garrett, Pears.

Really need reinforcements...

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by neophox

[47er]

No point praising how good some of our younger players are when the Premier Leaguee sharks are always circling.

We get excited at the prospect, then they're off.

[47er]

1 minute ago, neophox said:

At the moment we line up like this as our strongest lineup:

Toth

Albieusu, Carter, Hyam, Ribeiro

Tronstad, Travis,

Cantwell

Ohashi, Gueye, Hedges

Subs: Picks, De Neve, Tavares, Tyjon, Buckley, Montgomery, Leonard, Forshaw, Wharton.

Really need reinforcements...

 

 

 

 

 

That's a Twiggy team (not much up-front).

[alexanders]

I do miss the times when we last had a Big sale, P. Jones, splashed 6.80m on Scott Dann and nearly 4m on Goodwillie recouping 1.5m. 
 

Running a football club is extremely difficult. Minimizing risk is a clever way to do it. 
 

When it comes to not backing Eustace, he was delighted with both Sanderson and Forshaw in the Jan window. In addition we brought in AK and Dennis. 
 

The summer transfer window I think most supporters were pleased with. 

 

[Fraserkirky]

McLaughlin, Al Sahafri and the baradji bloke if the medical works out, plus a premier league striker loan. Not a million miles away.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Why would we want Brittain to stay then, and why does Ismael want him to stay? If he genuinely would be totally satisfied with just Alebiousu and Montgomery, then surely Brittain is unnecessary clutter?

Why wouldn't you want Brittain to stay and sign a new contract? One of our best player, proven championship player with experience. Ismael is a big fan of his

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

As mentioned, it is funny how the players that exactly suit "the way Ismael wants to play" (you should get that on a t shirt) play for teams relegated for lesser leagues. Dont be naive, of course finances play a part.

Finances play every transfer but Ismael is very clear on what he wants and so far in terms of profile of player. 

Is Belgium league a lesser league than the championship? 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

He hasnt even said that we wont sign a right back as and when Brittain leaves. You are just pre preparing your excuses. We dont know how Alebiosu would cope playing week in week out for the first time and at a higher level than he has played before. For our only cover to be a young midfielder who has only ever started one league game in which he got sent off, would be a crazy risk IMO driven purely by cost cutting. You even said yourself that you want an experienced replacment when Brittain goes.

I don't need to prepare my excuses RF99 but I could turn it around on you and you have prepared your excuses for Ismael potentially he is happy with those 2 players. 

Yes I want a replacement for Brittain cos I want to use Montgomery as centre midfielder not as a right back something you have overlooked here

 

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45 minutes ago, neophox said:

At the moment we line up like this as our strongest lineup:

Toth

Albieusu, Carter, Hyam, Ribeiro

Tronstad, Travis,

Cantwell

Ohashi, Gueye, Hedges

Subs: Picks, De Neve, Kargbo, Tavares, Tyjon, Buckley, Montgomery, Leonard, Forshaw, Wharton, Garrett, Pears.

Really need reinforcements...

 

 

 

 

 

That really puts it into perspective how weak we are

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

 

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, Mike E said:

They were extensively scouted by a tried and trusted scouting team with Premier League experience and knowledge. Their cost was not the reason they were bought but their potential ability.

The current incomings appear to be scouted based on what we can spend and what their FootballManager ratings are by a scouting team that hasn’t remained intact for longer than 6 months since Covid.

And I'm sure these signings have video scouted and check, but scouting is original done by video cos he can used Wyscout which is great for club and used by many clubs out there. 

Of course players are scouted on how much they will cost but you want to check and scouted the players attributes first and make sure they fit in with the type of players you want

2 hours ago, M_B said:

So were  De Neve's team relegated from the 2nd division, or to the second division ?

I keep reading they were a relegated 2nd division team, can't make head nor tail of them tables. 

His team was relegated from Belgium top league to the second league. 

[Jaho_Rovers]

I believe Pickering has gone to Plymouth Argyle this evening in a bid to compete as their starting LB in L1 this season

[roversfan99]

26 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Why wouldn't you want Brittain to stay and sign a new contract? One of our best player, proven championship player with experience. Ismael is a big fan of his

Finances play every transfer but Ismael is very clear on what he wants and so far in terms of profile of player. 

Is Belgium league a lesser league than the championship? 

I don't need to prepare my excuses RF99 but I could turn it around on you and you have prepared your excuses for Ismael potentially he is happy with those 2 players. 

Yes I want a replacement for Brittain cos I want to use Montgomery as centre midfielder not as a right back something you have overlooked here

 

You are the one that suggested that Ismael would be happy going into the season with Alebiosu and Montgomery as right backs.

Therefore, surely if we had Brittain aswell, that would be too many?

I have made it very clear that it is imperative that Brittain is replaced by a first team right back when he goes.

If Ismael is "happy" with just the 2 including a rookie midfielder filling in, then more fool him. But I suspect he is not. Considering he isnt blind and knows how good Brittain is, I am confident that he is aware that when he goes, we need a replacement.

[Exiled_Rover]

14 minutes ago, Jahoken said:

I believe Pickering has gone to Plymouth Argyle this evening in a bid to compete as their starting LB in L1 this season

That's an incredible call if true - it's not on Twitter or the Plymouth fans board. 

[bigbrandjohn]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Or equally, Leo Wahlstedt, Semir Telalovic, Herold Goulon, Amine Linganzi, Sasha Petshi and Fode Koita.

Blimey they were never retained in my psychic RAM

[Ruaney]

16 minutes ago, Jahoken said:

I believe Pickering has gone to Plymouth Argyle this evening in a bid to compete as their starting LB in L1 this season

Surely not? I hope this isn’t true.