rovers11 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago McLoughlin is a sensible signing. Brings championship experience, leadership, and is a reliable figure at the back. A good replacement for Batth. We still need one more centre back though with two injury prone ones in Carter and Wharton. We will need a new right back and I think we'll get one in on loan at the end of the window. Don't think Ryan will be good enough to start regularly but is a good, pacy option off the bench. Montgomery, however, is someone who I think can be a regular starter in a year or so time, so it makes sense to bring in an experienced loan for a year. 2 Quote
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MarkBRFC Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 4 minutes ago, rovers11 said: McLoughlin is a sensible signing. Brings championship experience, leadership, and is a reliable figure at the back. A good replacement for Batth. We still need one more centre back though with two injury prone ones in Carter and Wharton. We will need a new right back and I think we'll get one in on loan at the end of the window. Don't think Ryan will be good enough to start regularly but is a good, pacy option off the bench. Montgomery, however, is someone who I think can be a regular starter in a year or so time, so it makes sense to bring in an experienced loan for a year. That Miller from Hibs would be ideal, can slot in at RB and CB. I don't think we will get him unfortunately as we won't pay the fee, could maybe see another Dion Sanderson type signing on loan later in the window that could perform both roles if needs be. Quote
Admiral Nelsen Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, rovers11 said: McLoughlin is a sensible signing. Brings championship experience, leadership, and is a reliable figure at the back. A good replacement for Batth. We still need one more centre back though with two injury prone ones in Carter and Wharton. We will need a new right back and I think we'll get one in on loan at the end of the window. Don't think Ryan will be good enough to start regularly but is a good, pacy option off the bench. Montgomery, however, is someone who I think can be a regular starter in a year or so time, so it makes sense to bring in an experienced loan for a year. Β No idea if he'll be an adequate replacement for Batth or not - I suspect not in the short term - but I agree it looks like a sensible signing. Hull fans seem to be on the fence about whether selling him is a good idea or not, but they all seem to think that we've got the better end of the deal if the Β£500k is right.Β Quote
Forever Blue Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 6 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Β Good. Get him training on Witton Park on his own to give him time to reflect on his actions.Β Quote
davulsukur Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Β It'll still go through. He want's to leave, he won't sign a new deal, we are "learning" from past mistakes (apparently) As expected, we'll just end up accepting a deal that see's him leave for a fraction of his value. 2 Quote
rovers11 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 9 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: That Miller from Hibs would be ideal, can slot in at RB and CB. I don't think we will get him unfortunately as we won't pay the fee, could maybe see another Dion Sanderson type signing on loan later in the window that could perform both roles if needs be. Good shout. Think that's spot on and will likely be the approach.Β In fact, getting Sanderson back may not be a bad idea given we need championship experience and leadership to balance up the 'riskier' signings we've made so far.Β Quote
rovers11 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, Admiral Nelsen said: Β No idea if he'll be an adequate replacement for Batth or not - I suspect not in the short term - but I agree it looks like a sensible signing. Hull fans seem to be on the fence about whether selling him is a good idea or not, but they all seem to think that we've got the better end of the deal if the Β£500k is right.Β 500k for an experienced championship centre half who, in Hull's fans words, was one of their stand out performers last season looks like very good business. Proven at this level, albeit a steady eddie type. I don't think Hull would be selling him for that kind of price if they weren't in the predicament that they're in. Edited 8 hours ago by rovers11 3 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago A steady Eddie is just what is needed next to Hyam he plays so much better with a calm presence next to him. 1 Quote
alexanders Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago THis post about the Brittain transfer stalling and right before Journo saying Boro could be willing to pay 2.5m while we want 3m. This reeks of lowballing. Hopefully Eustace tries to get Brittain as well.Β Quote
Jimmy612 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: So how do young players come through to first team squad then? Good job Adam Wharton pathway wasn't blocked by senior player isn't it.Β Why can't you have 25 man with Michalski, Montgomery and Tyjon part of that squad?Β Wharton is a fantastic example... a generational talent who's already played for England and is recognised as one of the best young players in the PL.Β But why didn't you use the examples of Jake Garrett, Adam Henley, Jake Kean, Jack Vale, Dan Butterworth, Tyler Magloire, Willem Tomlinson etc?Β There's no doubt the academy has served us well, and the players that are good enough will break through (lots of examples of this).Β Β What we cannot afford is an over-reliance on players that have in no way proven their capability in senior football.Β Β The success stories in recent years have invariably spent time out on loan or have been eased in to senior football.Β Lenihan, Carter, Wharton, Travis, Buckley, Nyambe.Β None of these were thrown in at the deep end.Β They were nurtured either by going out on loan to lower leagues or were given sporadic opportunities until they were seen to be ready.Β There is a balance to be had, and if you tip the balance too far in favour of youngsters, you're going to get your fingers burnt.Β Edited 8 hours ago by Jimmy612 2 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, alexanders said: FFP and they way the big boys have changed everything has destroyed so much. I agree that Venkys have been horrible owners in a lot of aspects, but it is impossible to say if we would be better off with other owners or the existing owners. Football has changed a lot the last decade and unfortunately in favour of the big few. Just look at Club World cup. Its farcical. Donald Trump handing over a throphy in a meaningless cup. Makes me puke.Β Is it impossible to say? I genuinely can't think of anything they've done right in 15 years. 2 Quote
Jimmy612 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 6 minutes ago, alexanders said: THis post about the Brittain transfer stalling and right before Journo saying Boro could be willing to pay 2.5m while we want 3m. This reeks of lowballing. Hopefully Eustace tries to get Brittain as well.Β This is uncharacteristically churlish of me, but I wouldn't sell to Derby.Β If it comes down to a few hundred thousand I'd rather take a bit less money and sell him to Boro, frankly. They've nicked our manager, nicked two of our out of contract lads, have been sniffing around Travis, linked to Dolan and now want Brittain.Β If I was Rovers I think I'd try to make it known that he's available for Β£3m, unless Derby phone, then he's available for Β£4m.Β 3 Quote
Neal Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, Jimmy612 said: This is uncharacteristically churlish of me, but I wouldn't sell to Derby.Β If it comes down to a few hundred thousand I'd rather take a bit less money and sell him to Boro, frankly. They've nicked our manager, nicked two of our out of contract lads, have been sniffing around Travis, linked to Dolan and now want Brittain.Β If I was Rovers I think I'd try to make it known that he's available for Β£3m, unless Derby phone, then he's available for Β£4m.Β You have to simply look at it as a club trying to take our players to take our league position... So fuck em, sell to Boro.Β 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 39 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: That Miller from Hibs would be ideal, can slot in at RB and CB. I don't think we will get him unfortunately as we won't pay the fee, could maybe see another Dion Sanderson type signing on loan later in the window that could perform both roles if needs be. I don't like slotting CBs in at FB - especially in the modern game when the FB is asked to provide attacking options. Nor do I like slotting tall FBs in at CB as a Plan A. That's a Plan D when everyone is injured and the transfer window is closed. 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 13 minutes ago, alexanders said: This reeks of lowballing. Hopefully Eustace tries to get Brittain as well.Β We're the last Club to be in a position to complain about that! (Tin hat on) If Eustace was interested in Brittain I'd accept Nyambe (still only 27) plus Β£2m cash. Quote
Neal Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Has this CB from Hull been completed yet? From my understanding he was overseas with Hull for pre season and the bid has only just been accepted.Β Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Yeah, just look at the subs bench. A vital part of modern day football. JDT and Eustace often turned to the bench and thought "who the fuck do I bring on?" It's why Eustace ran Travis and Tronstad into the ground last season. It's been our achilles heel for years - absolutely no quality depth. Games we're very much in used to change when the subs were made - the opposition got stronger (or at least posed different questions) and we either didn't make any (with our tired players going up against their fresh ones) or got significantly weaker. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 37 minutes ago, davulsukur said: It'll still go through. He want's to leave, he won't sign a new deal, we are "learning" from past mistakes (apparently) As expected, we'll just end up accepting a deal that see's him leave for a fraction of his value. It'll go through, the Β£3m will be banked and we'll bring in a cheap, untested, PL loan RB. 1 Quote
Admiral Nelsen Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said: We're the last Club to be in a position to complain about that! (Tin hat on) If Eustace was interested in Brittain I'd accept Nyambe (still only 27) plus Β£2m cash. Β Not for me. Loved him when he was here but his weaknesses are too limiting. Quote
Ghost7 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago We will need to replace Brittain's crossing ability, so whoever comes in needs to either be very good technically or extremely quick instead. Nyambe is neither, and is a downgrade. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ghost7 said: We will need to replace Brittain's crossing ability, so whoever comes in needs to either be very good technically or extremely quick instead. Nyambe is neither, and is a downgrade. Unless he's regressed massively he's far quicker than Brittain and a much better one-on-one defender. Nowhere near the attacker though. 4 Quote
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