2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[rovers11]

13 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Meant to be Ipswich for 20 million 

They get £20m for Hackney...we got £20m for Wharton who will become one of the best midfielders in the prem. Oh to be a well run club. 

And barely a penny of the Wharton money re-invested whereas I bet Boro re-invest 50-75% of that fee.

 

[roversfan99]

27 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Plenty of players. But everyone has to chip last season. If Ohashi stays fit I think he will get 15 goals 

It's a crazy bid to be honest for Hackney. They sold Latth for £20m and they didn't buy a proper replacement 

From everything Ismael has said he is very happy and wants 2 or 3 more signing. 

He wants certain profile of player and Rovers seemingly have match that. 

People didnt chip in last season, that was the issue. We didnt score enough goals.

Hedges got only 1 goal. Cantwell got 1 from open play. Our number 9 only got 6 all season. Kargbo obviously got injured and didnt score. Dennis and Woodrow didnt score.

Weimann and Dolan did chip in and now have gone. De Neve has never historically scored anything other than the odd goal in the Belgian league. McLoughlin has come in, obviously not to score goals but never scored a single goal in 6 years for Hull.

What Ismael says he "wants" might be reigned in compared to what he actually thinks we need compared to what we are likely to get realistically, or even if he only wants a certain number, that doesnt mean that its actually what we need. Judge beyond just parroting what the manager says in public. Question things. Compare to what they said we wanted before the window started, consider players who left unexpectedly. 

[JHRover]

28 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

They get £20m for Hackney...we got £20m for Wharton who will become one of the best midfielders in the prem. Oh to be a well run club. 

And barely a penny of the Wharton money re-invested whereas I bet Boro re-invest 50-75% of that fee.

 

"Yeah but we can't compete because they're a massive club blah blah blah"

[davulsukur]

15 hours ago, Ghost7 said:

Can someone please name the signings who are going to start the first game of the season and make a difference?

Ideally would like Rudy Gestede to answer that.

Embarrassing stuff. Get the owner's to INVEST properly in the first XI before it's too late.

That means at least...... a winger (or 2), a STRIKER, an established centre midfielder and an athletic centre back!

I think he'll start De Neve and McLoughlin. 

Not saying either improve on what we have but I think he'll start McLoughlin over putting Wharton straight back in and Carter is injured. With a fully fit selection of centre backs, I don't think McLoughlin starts.

De Neve has started most of the pre-season games, so assume VI rates him over Kargbo, who has largely come off the bench.

I agree though, the recruitment has been poor in the main. No desire to improve on what we have, just get players in for low fees, who they hope they can sell in a season or 2 just by virtue of being championship players.

 

[Jimmy612]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

They sold Latth for £20m and they didn't buy a proper replacement 

They may not have signed an absolute like for like for Latte Lath (they loaned Iheanacho IIRC), but they brought in Whittaker for over £7m and also spent £5m on Conway in summer 2024. 

In fact, looking at TransferMarkt will show you the following;

Money In 24/25: £27.15m
Money Spent 24/25: £25.19m

Money In 23/24: £25.70m
Money Out 23/24: £16.16m

Money In: 22/23: £27.37m
Money Out: £10.23m

Money In 21/22: £1.80m
Money Out 21/22: £12.56m

That's about 78% reinvestment on incomings over the last 4 seasons. 

Rovers since 20/21
In: £57.99m
Out: £12.40m

21% reinvestment - Net: +45.59m 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, Jimmy612 said:

They may not have signed an absolute like for like for Latte Lath (they loaned Iheanacho IIRC), but they brought in Whittaker for over £7m and also spent £5m on Conway in summer 2024. 

In fact, looking at TransferMarkt will show you the following;

Money In 24/25: £27.15m
Money Spent 24/25: £25.19m

Money In 23/24: £25.70m
Money Out 23/24: £16.16m

Money In: 22/23: £27.37m
Money Out: £10.23m

Money In 21/22: £1.80m
Money Out 21/22: £12.56m

That's about 78% reinvestment on incomings over the last 4 seasons. 

Rovers since 20/21
In: £57.99m
Out: £12.40m

21% reinvestment - Net: +45.59m 

Please dont spoil chaddy's "Everything is great here, everyone else is shit" narrative with facts!

[sharpysharps86]

13 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

De Neve has started most of the pre-season games, so assume VI rates him over Kargbo, who has largely come off the bench.

Kargbo definitely seems to be seen as more of a finisher in games instead of a starter. I think that's fair as well, someone like him with pace to burn coming on after an hour has the potential to cause defenders all sorts of problems. If he can replicate his cameo against Plymouth at home last season on a consistent basis then he'll do ok.

[Paul Mani]

15 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

I think he'll start De Neve and McLoughlin. 

Not saying either improve on what we have but I think he'll start McLoughlin over putting Wharton straight back in and Carter is injured. With a fully fit selection of centre backs, I don't think McLoughlin starts.

De Neve has started most of the pre-season games, so assume VI rates him over Kargbo, who has largely come off the bench.

I agree though, the recruitment has been poor in the main. No desire to improve on what we have, just get players in for low fees, who they hope they can sell in a season or 2 just by virtue of being championship players.

 

Disclaimer - I’m not saying we’ve had a good transfer window. I still believe we’re in Managed decline and Venkys need to go!

But - How do we know that recruitment has been poor so far? We’ve signed 4 players, and haven’t seen much of any of them yet. Surely we’d have to watch them play before deciding if they were better or worse than what went before them? 

[chaddyrovers]

29 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

People didnt chip in last season, that was the issue. We didnt score enough goals.

Hedges got only 1 goal. Cantwell got 1 from open play. Our number 9 only got 6 all season. Kargbo obviously got injured and didnt score. Dennis and Woodrow didnt score.

Weimann and Dolan did chip in and now have gone. De Neve has never historically scored anything other than the odd goal in the Belgian league. McLoughlin has come in, obviously not to score goals but never scored a single goal in 6 years for Hull.

You posted like I dont how how many players scored last season. Of course I know, why wouldn't I RF99? 

Maybe if hadn't got beat by Plymouth away against Hull at home or Stoke away or Derby away we would have made the playoffs 

29 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

What Ismael says he "wants" might be reigned in compared to what he actually thinks we need compared to what we are likely to get realistically, or even if he only wants a certain number, that doesnt mean that its actually what we need. Judge beyond just parroting what the manager says in public. Question things. Compare to what they said we wanted before the window started, consider players who left unexpectedly. 

We been over and over the squad plan and we dont agree. We deffo don't need again do you? 

I've have told repeatedly we need another 3 signings and what positions. You want another 5 or 6..we dont agree and unlikely to do

[Hullrover]

19 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

 Not saying either improve on what we have but I think he'll start McLoughlin over putting Wharton straight back in and Carter is injured. With a fully fit selection of centre backs, I don't think McLoughlin starts.

If we have only conceded 5 goals in 10 games he will not be dropped when others are fit; if we have conceded 15 then he probably will be.

[Mercer]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

It's a crazy bid to be honest for Hackney. They sold Latth for £20m and they didn't buy a proper replacement 

From everything Ismael has said he is very happy and wants 2 or 3 more signing. 

You rubbished Ipswich's signing of Delap and look where he is now!  I understand Mowbray turned down  the chance to take Delap on loan from City in his last January window with Rovers!!!!!!!

What is Ismael very happy about?

Do you honestly believe he would come out in public and say 'really, we need another 5 to 6 QUALITY additions'.  In all fairness to Moyes he's done that at Everton.  I think you are incredibly naive and gullible and just post parrot fashion whatever bullsh1t comes out of Rovers.

Edited 19 hours ago by Mercer

[chaddyrovers]

9 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said:

They may not have signed an absolute like for like for Latte Lath (they loaned Iheanacho IIRC), but they brought in Whittaker for over £7m and also spent £5m on Conway in summer 2024. 

In fact, looking at TransferMarkt will show you the following;

Money In 24/25: £27.15m
Money Spent 24/25: £25.19m

Money In 23/24: £25.70m
Money Out 23/24: £16.16m

Money In: 22/23: £27.37m
Money Out: £10.23m

Money In 21/22: £1.80m
Money Out 21/22: £12.56m

That's about 78% reinvestment on incomings over the last 4 seasons. 

Rovers since 20/21
In: £57.99m
Out: £12.40m

21% reinvestment - Net: +45.59m 

Yes I know that's. Iheanacho is awful player. Boro selling Latth end their playoffs hopes

[RoversClitheroe]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yes I know that's. Iheanacho is awful player. Boro selling Latth end their playoffs hopes

Straight facts and all you say is Iheanacho is awful?

 

[roversfan99]

12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You posted like I dont how how many players scored last season. Of course I know, why wouldn't I RF99? 

Maybe if hadn't got beat by Plymouth away against Hull at home or Stoke away or Derby away we would have made the playoffs 

We been over and over the squad plan and we dont agree. We deffo don't need again do you? 

I've have told repeatedly we need another 3 signings and what positions. You want another 5 or 6..we dont agree and unlikely to do

My opinion is that you think that we need another 3 signings because that is what Ismael has said publically that we are trying to do.

The idea of players all chipping in is a nice one but I am just pointing out that a number of the players we have in attacking areas have not really got a track record of doing so and it would be unlikely (not impossible) to see them considerably increase that output this season. Which is why I am calling for a few more additions there.

And which is probably part of the reason why Gestede said before the summer that we want more power and quality across the front line. Proof will be in the pudding as to whether they manage to bring more goals and attacking quality in. As it stands with just over a week to go, they have failed to do that and indeed have actually seen us become weaker in those areas.

If that does happen, excellent. If that doesnt happen, I wont be swallowing the crap they peddle as to why that has changed.

[Jimmy612]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Boro selling Latth end their playoffs hopes

You could argue that not backing Eustace ended ours. 

Boro were 7th when they sold Latte Lath, they finished 8th.  Impossible to say whether they would have broken the top 6 if they'd kept him.  Point is, Gibson is a very good owner who invests in his club.  They'll make good signings, they'll make bad signings, they'll good managerial appointments, they'll make bad ones, but you always have a feeling Boro are motivated to succeed. 

Since we got relegated in 2012 they've;

• Been automatically promoted,
• Had a season in the Prem,
• Had 3 top 6 finishes
• 5 top 10 finishes 

We've been relegated to L1 and never made the Champ play-offs yet. 

[Exiled_Rover]

32 minutes ago, Mercer said:

You rubbished Ipswich's signing of Delap and look where he is now!  I understand Mowbray turned down  the chance to take Delap on loan from City in his last January window with Rovers!!!!!!!

What is Ismael very happy about?

Do you honestly believe he would come out in public and say 'really, we need another 5 to 6 QUALITY additions'.  In all fairness to Moyes he's done that at Everton.  I think you are incredibly naive and gullible and just post parrot fashion whatever bullsh1t comes out of Rovers.

I must be the only one that thinks Delap is a donkey - well besides Chelsea who have immediately recruited over him. 

[TheRevAshton]

10 days till the season starts and we're still gonna have Ryan fucking Hedges starting on the right-wing... Jesus wept.

[rovers11]

55 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

I think he'll start De Neve and McLoughlin. 

Not saying either improve on what we have but I think he'll start McLoughlin over putting Wharton straight back in and Carter is injured. With a fully fit selection of centre backs, I don't think McLoughlin starts.

De Neve has started most of the pre-season games, so assume VI rates him over Kargbo, who has largely come off the bench.

I agree though, the recruitment has been poor in the main. No desire to improve on what we have, just get players in for low fees, who they hope they can sell in a season or 2 just by virtue of being championship players.

 

We've had a very poor window so far, there's no doubt about that. I'd give it a 2 out of 10.

In the main, it's cheap punts from abroad whilst seeing experienced championship players go through the exit door. Oh and not a single new contract in sight for 3 of our best players. Brittain and Trav will likely leave this summer, Tronstad next summer. 

We continue on our downward spiral and the destination will be league 1 again at some point. Think we may be OK next season with Sheff W and Hull in disarray, but we're well on the path to league 1.

[davulsukur]

12 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Disclaimer - I’m not saying we’ve had a good transfer window. I still believe we’re in Managed decline and Venkys need to go!

But - How do we know that recruitment has been poor so far? We’ve signed 4 players, and haven’t seen much of any of them yet. Surely we’d have to watch them play before deciding if they were better or worse than what went before them? 

Of course they could all be great additions, we do need to see them over a reasonable period before judging too much. However the overall point does remain, that Taveres is highly unlikely to replace Tronstad or Travis as a starting CM, McLoughlin probably wouldn't be ahead of a fully fit Wharton/Carter and Alebiosu won't be displacing Brittain. 

De Neve, at least, seems to be in more favour than anyone for that left hand side of midfield.

It doesn't feel like we have signed players to come into the first team, more just back up's for the players who are already here. For a club to move forward, you surely need to be signing players who are better than what you have already?

11 minutes ago, Hullrover said:

If we have only conceded 5 goals in 10 games he will not be dropped when others are fit; if we have conceded 15 then he probably will be.

Agreed, if he comes in and takes his chance, he should retain his place. 

The point being that if all our centre backs were fit to play, he probably wouldn't be getting that chance in the first place.

[RevidgeBlue]

30 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said:

Since we got relegated in 2012 they've;

• Been automatically promoted,
• Had a season in the Prem,
• Had 3 top 6 finishes
• 5 top 10 finishes 

We've been relegated to L1 and never made the Champ play-offs yet. 

Ouch.

[KentExile]

1 hour ago, Jimmy612 said:

They may not have signed an absolute like for like for Latte Lath (they loaned Iheanacho IIRC), but they brought in Whittaker for over £7m and also spent £5m on Conway in summer 2024. 

In fact, looking at TransferMarkt will show you the following;

Money In 24/25: £27.15m
Money Spent 24/25: £25.19m

Money In 23/24: £25.70m
Money Out 23/24: £16.16m

Money In: 22/23: £27.37m
Money Out: £10.23m

Money In 21/22: £1.80m
Money Out 21/22: £12.56m

That's about 78% reinvestment on incomings over the last 4 seasons. 

Rovers since 20/21
In: £57.99m
Out: £12.40m

21% reinvestment - Net: +45.59m 

 

34 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said:

You could argue that not backing Eustace ended ours. 

Boro were 7th when they sold Latte Lath, they finished 8th.  Impossible to say whether they would have broken the top 6 if they'd kept him.  Point is, Gibson is a very good owner who invests in his club.  They'll make good signings, they'll make bad signings, they'll good managerial appointments, they'll make bad ones, but you always have a feeling Boro are motivated to succeed. 

Since we got relegated in 2012 they've;

• Been automatically promoted,
• Had a season in the Prem,
• Had 3 top 6 finishes
• 5 top 10 finishes 

We've been relegated to L1 and never made the Champ play-offs yet. 

[Exiled_Rover]

15 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

We've had a very poor window so far, there's no doubt about that. I'd give it a 2 out of 10.

In the main, it's cheap punts from abroad whilst seeing experienced championship players go through the exit door. Oh and not a single new contract in sight for 3 of our best players. Brittain and Trav will likely leave this summer, Tronstad next summer. 

We continue on our downward spiral and the destination will be league 1 again at some point. Think we may be OK next season with Sheff W and Hull in disarray, but we're well on the path to league 1.

I'm on the fence. Long term we're obviously fucked because the owners refuse to employ competent people and refuse to fund the club.

As for this summer, I'm pleased there's at least a plan. We've signed 3 players that are better athletes than the players they've replaced, which is what Ismael's system requires.

Forshaw remains a weird signing. 

I can see us having a season similar to JDTs first season here, without perhaps the top end results (sitting well within the Playoffs for most of the season - we simply don't have the quality or quantity upfront). We'll either win or lose with this high intensity, pressing style. I don't think we'll draw many.

Edited 18 hours ago by Exiled_Rover

[JHRover]

1 hour ago, Jimmy612 said:

They may not have signed an absolute like for like for Latte Lath (they loaned Iheanacho IIRC), but they brought in Whittaker for over £7m and also spent £5m on Conway in summer 2024. 

In fact, looking at TransferMarkt will show you the following;

Money In 24/25: £27.15m
Money Spent 24/25: £25.19m

Money In 23/24: £25.70m
Money Out 23/24: £16.16m

Money In: 22/23: £27.37m
Money Out: £10.23m

Money In 21/22: £1.80m
Money Out 21/22: £12.56m

That's about 78% reinvestment on incomings over the last 4 seasons. 

Rovers since 20/21
In: £57.99m
Out: £12.40m

21% reinvestment - Net: +45.59m 

I think you are being very generous saying that Rovers have spent £12 million in the last 4 years. I bet it is well short of that in terms of cash actually paid out so far.

[JHRover]

39 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said:

You could argue that not backing Eustace ended ours. 

Boro were 7th when they sold Latte Lath, they finished 8th.  Impossible to say whether they would have broken the top 6 if they'd kept him.  Point is, Gibson is a very good owner who invests in his club.  They'll make good signings, they'll make bad signings, they'll good managerial appointments, they'll make bad ones, but you always have a feeling Boro are motivated to succeed. 

Since we got relegated in 2012 they've;

• Been automatically promoted,
• Had a season in the Prem,
• Had 3 top 6 finishes
• 5 top 10 finishes 

We've been relegated to L1 and never made the Champ play-offs yet. 

Exactly. Some seem to want to point to the fact that Middlesbrough have been stuck in the Championship for quite a while as 'proof' that spending heavily doesn't equate to success (as you rightly point out they have had success, promotion, Premier League, multiple play-offs.

But there is so much more to it than just spending money. They have an ownership, board, management who want to be successful. They might not achieve success, but they want to, they try, and their fans can see them trying and trust them to get it right one day.

Nobody involved at ownership or management level at Rovers can look in a mirror and say they have tried and every fan knows deep down that's the reality, no matter how much delusion or excuses they want to come up with to make themselves feel better about things.

[RoversTilliDie]

2 hours ago, rovers11 said:

They get £20m for Hackney...we got £20m for Wharton who will become one of the best midfielders in the prem. Oh to be a well run club. 

And barely a penny of the Wharton money re-invested whereas I bet Boro re-invest 50-75% of that fee.

 

£20,000,000 for Adam Wharton, that should have been £30,000,000 minimum. Like you said, hes turning into one of the best midfielders in the prem.