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Posted
2 hours ago, joey_big_nose said:

Gueye is the player imo in the squad who could do an Armstrong/BBD/Szmodics and have a really exceptional season. He has all the ingredients, totally unplayable on his day. I would really want to keep him.

That said... UAE clubs do need to sign quite a lot of random smaller players to make up the numbers with big money players, they will be offering a higher wage also with zero tax. He may speak arabic too coming from Senegal.

Sort of feels plausible to me.

Sorry, can't agree with this.Β 

Theoretically, he does but, in reality, he's fundamentally lacking. He doesn't have a 'footballing brain' and his finishing is often woeful.

If he was given a banjo, the cow's arse would be safe...

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Posted
4 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Really hope De Neve shows something, not been impressed so far.

Bad first touch, not sure what he offers, looks like another Hedges personallyΒ 

Was in the right place for the goal against Everton, came to some decent opportunities against Elche and look defensively solid. Partnership with Ribeiro not clicking all together unfortunately. Need time to adapt each other Β 

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Posted
20 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Really hope De Neve shows something, not been impressed so far.

Bad first touch, not sure what he offers, looks like another Hedges personallyΒ 

Seems to be fairly quick, a willing runner. Got himself on the edge of the 6 yard box for the goal v Everton, not something Hedges does. He seems to prefer being on the edge of the area.

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Posted
22 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Really hope De Neve shows something, not been impressed so far.

Bad first touch, not sure what he offers, looks like another Hedges personallyΒ 

With a cheap signing like him, let's say he cost us 250k... You should expect absolutely nothing, anything more is a bonus.Β 

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Posted
4 hours ago, AJW said:

I’m in the camp that wants to see Gueye again this season there were times last season when he was an absolute beast , the Preston game. At home comes to mind but everyone has a price and I think Β£3-4m is the tipping point for me

Remember WBA away last season almost a hattrick πŸ”₯

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Posted (edited)

Gueye brings something different to the table and can have a big impact on matches. However, his consistency and general finishing ability is poor. He'll never be somebody we can rely on to lead the line as our main striker, but I do like that he offers something very different along the front line, and on his day he has shown he can change the course of a match in our favour. Considering how weak we are in terms of forward options, I wouldn't be in favour of selling him unless we had a decent replacement lined up to immediately replace himΒ andΒ the offer was somewhat above his rough market value.Β 

His character and charisma is a plus, but not so much so that I would personally factor it into whether he should stay or go.

We didn't really replace Szmodics last summer, and it looks like we aren't going to this summer either. Ohashi is good but he's not a lead-the-line striker either. Selling Gueye would just mean we need to fill both the lead and supporting striker roles. Keeping him means we have two supporting strikers but still lack a lead striker.Β 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, DE. said:

Gueye brings something different to the table and can have a big impact on matches. However, his consistency and general finishing ability is poor. He'll never be somebody we can rely on to lead the line as our main striker, but I do like that he offers something very different along the front line, and on his day he has shown he can change the course of a match in our favour. Considering how weak we are in terms of forward options, I wouldn't be in favour of selling him unless we had a decent replacement lined up to immediately replace himΒ andΒ the offer was somewhat above his rough market value.Β 

His character and charisma is a plus, but not so much so that I would personally factor it into whether he should stay or go.

We didn't really replace Szmodics last summer, and it looks like we aren't going to this summer either. Ohashi is good but he's not a lead-the-line striker either. Selling Gueye would just mean we need to fill both the lead and supporting striker roles. Keeping him means we have two supporting strikers but still lack a lead striker.Β 

Is Ohashi not a lead the line striker?

I think thats his best position. His strength is his finishing, pressing and running in behind, all would be harder playing deeper.

We win far more often when he plays up front. Doesnt have to be an old fashioned physical brute to play there.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Is Ohashi not a lead the line striker?

I think thats his best position. His strength is his finishing, pressing and running in behind, all would be harder playing deeper.

We win far more often when he plays up front. Doesnt have to be an old fashioned physical brute to play there.

He doesn't have the pace to run in behind against Championship CBs.

He's a Solskjaer - good finisher, good movement and composed.

Ferguson didn't start him much either.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Is Ohashi not a lead the line striker?

I think thats his best position. His strength is his finishing, pressing and running in behind, all would be harder playing deeper.

We win far more often when he plays up front. Doesnt have to be an old fashioned physical brute to play there.

I don't think he's physical enough or quick enough to lead the line. Personally think he's better playing off a lead striker or coming on as a substitute. I actually think if we were playing a traditional two-up-top system Gueye and Ohashi might work well together, but one assumes we will not play that kind of system - and even if we did I'm not convinced Gueye is consistent enough to be the first choice target man in that duo.Β 

I like Ohashi and think he's a capable backup striker, but as the main man? Not sure about that. I suppose it depends what your expectations are. If it's that we finish somewhere in the bottom half then yeah, he's probably good enough for that role. If it's playoffs, I wouldn't say so.Β 

I doubt we sign anyone better, though, so here's to him proving me wrong this season. I wouldn't have said Szmodics or Brereton had 20+ goal seasons in them either.Β 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, DE. said:

I don't think he's physical enough or quick enough to lead the line. Personally think he's better playing off a lead striker or coming on as a substitute. I actually think if we were playing a traditional two-up-top system Gueye and Ohashi might work well together, but one assumes we will not play that kind of system - and even if we did I'm not convinced Gueye is consistent enough to be the first choice target man in that duo.Β 

I like Ohashi and think he's a capable backup striker, but as the main man? Not sure about that. I suppose it depends what your expectations are. If it's that we finish somewhere in the bottom half then yeah, he's probably good enough for that role. If it's playoffs, I wouldn't say so.Β 

I doubt we sign anyone better, though, so here's to him proving me wrong this season. I wouldn't have said Szmodics or Brereton had 20+ goal seasons in them either.Β 

You could surely have said the same about Rhodes though.

We get far better results with Ohashi up top on his own. He can link play even if it isnt his main asset and techcnically he is average.Β Β 

I do think that there is scope to potentially improve on Ohashi, or at least have someone providing much stronger competition. But in terms of his best position, I think hes best suited to being an out and out striker. Nullifies his strengths to move him deeper. He likes to play on the last line, and he presses well so it gets us up the pitch. I think gone are the days where you 100% need physicality to lead the line.

Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

So as called by a few on here the bid isn’t real then it seemsΒ 

The guy who posted the link stated no offers are made at this moment in time. Said they are meeting over this weekend to discuss. Maybe he’s on a list of targets they have to go through.Β 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

I actually think the scenario is they are prepared to sail as close to the wind as possible in order to keep the ship afloat but if/when the inevitable happens they'll find something else to blame it on.

Yes like,

"Lamine Yamal was due to sign for Blackburn Rovers today however it didn't go ahead due to Doris Baker at number 82 opening her blinds this afternoon with a left clanger hanging out. The turn of unfortunate events drew the attention of the board and the player, as a gust of wind blew the contact off the table at the point of distraction, flying out the window and attaching itself to the number 48 bus to Bolton"

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Read in Ronnie Barkers news at ton voice 🀣

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Posted
15 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I never said that we need a new third choice keeper. I said the other day that we dont. Im contesting you adding it to this number you are using to prove that after only 3 more signings, we are well covered.

I disagree, those numbers include injury prone players, players who shouldnt be starting, young lads who we dont know how many games their bodies can handle. I think we need more than 3, both in terms of quality and quantity to sufficiently cover all areas.

wrong, I have added Michalski has he will be our third choice keeper and part of our first team squad this season.Β 

We are well covered in every area if we make those 3 signings.Β 

Every squad has those problems and down to Ismael to managed it.Β 

The only way you are going to know whether Tyjon and Montgomery handled everything is by playing them, good enough old enough. Not by saying no, no and no. Yes they need to managed but also play them if the right decision for the team

13 hours ago, Mercer said:

All you can do is troll, troll and further troll.

Your personal vendetta against me is plain for all to see.

It's pathetic.

For fecks sake try and be constructive or bore off.

Well given some of your comments towards me aren't constructive at all like "I think you live in a world of delusion and self denial." for example. You seem to have a personal vendetta against me and my unquestionable support of my club through the good and bad times of being a supporterΒ 

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Posted
18 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

You could surely have said the same about Rhodes though.

We get far better results with Ohashi up top on his own. He can link play even if it isnt his main asset and techcnically he is average.Β Β 

I do think that there is scope to potentially improve on Ohashi, or at least have someone providing much stronger competition. But in terms of his best position, I think hes best suited to being an out and out striker. Nullifies his strengths to move him deeper. He likes to play on the last line, and he presses well so it gets us up the pitch. I think gone are the days where you 100% need physicality to lead the line.

I see Ohashi more as an industrius, hard-working forward who can play across the line. Rhodes wasΒ  - in some quarters infamously - largely limited to being useful within and around the penalty area. I consider Yuki a more flexible player, but at the same time one who isn't likely to get as many goals. I really only feel I can compare them at surface level though, as the Rovers team Rhodes played in was very different to the current squad. Ohashi doesn't have any player on the level of Ben Marshall, Josh King, David Dunn or Tom Cairney to feed him. For better or worse, our team back then was set up specifically to account for having a fox-in-the-box type striker with an incredible scoring technique. I don't think the same focus will be applied to Ohashi, and nor should it.Β 

Ultimately last season was a difficult one in terms of making a judgement call on Ohashi. He came in midway through the Japanese domestic season, so he'd already played 20+ games before the Championship even kicked off. He was either partnered with or in competition with a striker with totally different attributes to him, also new to the club. The entire team had to deal with severe management turbulence which disrupted cohesion. He also missed January through February with an injury.

One positive is that 4 of his 9 league goals came under Val's management. Before his injury he had scored just 1 goal in 19 league appearances (his other 4 goals all came in his first 5 appearances). It maybe provides some optimism that Ismael's system could work well for Ohashi. We'll see. As I said, I would be delighted to be proven wrong and to see Ohashi net a hatful this season - because the chances of us having anyone else to rely on is slim to none.Β 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well given some of your comments towards me aren't constructive at all like "I think you live in a world of delusion and self denial." for example. You seem to have a personal vendetta against me and my unquestionable support of my club through the good and bad times of being a supporterΒ 

This silly arguing can stop now - fair warning to all involved. I don't want to see any more of it.Β 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

If people think we've got a better team now than last season.

Wake up.

We need 5-6 signings as a minimum, and all starters.

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Very grim !

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