chaddyrovers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, DutchRover said: No way Cantwell is captain material, and Wharton isn't a guaranteed starter off injury and up against McLoughlan. Tronstad or Hyam are the options, neither of whom are particularly inspiring or vocal leaders. Neither was Abel Tarabat but Warnock made him captainย 1 4 Quote
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BankEnd Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Hasta said: You were pointing out some peoples initial opinions could be wrong. Iโm just pointing out sometimes those opinions are proven correct. Also, who wrote him off? The comment was on his game last night, and if that poster thought he looked awful then what is he meant to do. Lie and say he was ok? ย He's said makes Hedges looks like messi? Make of that what you will.ย Quote
Paul Mani Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Bohinen1983 said: Harsh, he's played two games and looked suspect in both. I'm not saying he can't improve- I bloody hope he does!ย He's a young lad in a new country and is clearly a bit nervous..ย However, to suggest he's done more than Hedges in these two appearances is ludicrous..ย Hedges, whilst he most certainly has his limitations has also had some cracking games for us. Once/if Axel actually starts playing well I'll gladly shift my opinion..ย He looked more dangerous in 50 minutes vs Bradford, than Hedges has looked in every minute of his Rovers career combined.ย Iโm talking about him seeing a pass, being in a position to thread a pass or taking a shot, having intention to play the forward in, running at speed into space and getting in front of a defender. Actually โlookingโ like thereโs a goal in you. I stand by my statement. 3 Quote
Paul Mani Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, alex l said: His through balls were promising. But he was nowhere for their first goal - I think he even looked towards the free man, but stayed still. Hedges at least has defensive discipline and work rate. Would it have stopped that first goal? Who knows, but Axel was asleep for it.ย Tbf to the guy, he canโt have trained that much to even know where he should be in those defensive set ups. Either way, I want our attacking players to show attacking intent. We need to be able to hurt teams and I think, an undercooked Henriksson looked 10x more dangerous than Hedges. 2 Quote
Bohinen1983 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I've not written Axel off, in fact I accounted for why he might have performed poorly.. My point was, he has looked pretty poor thus far and saying he looks better than Hedges based off those two games is crazy..ย If he'd scored that goal that Hedges scored against Watford a few years ago you'd he salivating.. I can't say I'm a huge fan of Hedges, he drives me mad. He's tidy, works hard but has appalling decision making.. I am not writing the young lad off. I really hope he comes good. It's only two games.. but by the very same logic, to say he's already better than Hedges is also jumping the gun.. Not convinced by any of the new recruits ATM.. call be sinical but buying cheap generally (not always)doesn't correlate with acquiring quality.. you need to spend money for good player's... 1 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said: I've not written Axel off, in fact I accounted for why he might have performed poorly.. My point was, he has looked pretty poor thus far and saying he looks better than Hedges based off those two games is crazy..ย If he'd scored that goal that Hedges scored against Watford a few years ago you'd he salivating.. I can't say I'm a huge fan of Hedges, he drives me mad. He's tidy, works hard but has appalling decision making.. I am not writing the young lad off. I really hope he comes good. It's only two games.. but by the very same logic, to say he's already better than Hedges is also jumping the gun.. Not convinced by any of the new recruits ATM.. call be sinical but buying cheap generally (not always)doesn't correlate with acquiring quality.. you need to spend money for good player's... Generally - not always whittaker most recent example been awful for middleborough cost them a fortuneย 1 Quote
Bohinen1983 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said: Generally - not always whittaker most recent example been awful for middleborough cost them a fortuneย Agreed ๐ฏย Quote
danger19_80 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: Neither was Abel Tarabat but Warnock made him captainย Taarabt was a mercurial maestro that got QPR promoted almost single handedly.ย Todd Cantwell is...not that.ย Edited 3 hours ago by danger19_80 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 56 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: If your writing off a player after 2 games then football isnโt for youย Been a lot more of this sort of disparaging talk (not just from you) recently "If you're writing him off too early it's not the sport for you" If you dont rate such and such a player you know nothing about the sport" " If you can't see that we clearly played 4-1 -2-1-1-1 etc during pre season maybe it's not the sport for you" It's nothing really to do with anyone else whether someone rates a particular player or not, although you're obviously free to disagree. Mowbray seemingly didn't rate Raya that highly. Does that mean he's been in the wrong career all his life? Therefore any chance of dialling the hyperbole down a bit? 1 1 Quote
roverandout Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: Neither was Abel Tarabat but Warnock made him captainย Tarabat was a qpr folk hero. A player that made things happen and delivered.ย Cantwell has none of those things so far Quote
Gamst Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 23 minutes ago, M_B said: Worth keeping tabs on Bradfords left back.ย I thought exactly the same. Then wikipedia told me he was a 30 year old lower league journeyman. Then I was really concerned that he stood out so much against our team.ย 2 Quote
superniko Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 25 minutes ago, M_B said: Worth keeping tabs on Bradfords left back.ย Can he play upfront or right wing? 3 Quote
M_B Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Gamst said: I thought exactly the same. Then wikipedia told me he was a 30 year old lower league journeyman. Then I was really concerned that he stood out so much against our team.ย ๐คฃ Quote
ROVER_N_OUT1978 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Bolton signed Ibrahim Cissoko, weren't we linked last season? 2 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 37 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Been a lot more of this sort of disparaging talk (not just from you) recently "If you're writing him off too early it's not the sport for you" If you dont rate such and such a player you know nothing about the sport" " If you can't see that we clearly played 4-1 -2-1-1-1 etc during pre season maybe it's not the sport for you" It's nothing really to do with anyone else whether someone rates a particular player or not, although you're obviously free to disagree. Mowbray seemingly didn't rate Raya that highly. Does that mean he's been in the wrong career all his life? Therefore any chance of dialling the hyperbole down a bit? Wrong example to compare to you saying Mowbray/raya - thatโs a coach/manager who works with the players and other players competing for the same position daily to make a judgement call - some right some wrongย fans who only see games and nothing else to declare a player completely useless after approx 90mins of football is simply wrongย Quote
Bohinen1983 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Wrong example to compare to you saying Mowbray/raya - thatโs a coach/manager who works with the players and other players competing for the same position daily to make a judgement call - some right some wrongย fans who only see games and nothing else to declare a player completely useless after approx 90mins of football is simply wrongย Who's declared that? Quote
davulsukur Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Tronstad has taken the armband in Travs absence previously, I'm sure he'll have it again for 12 months before leaving. 2 1 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Bohinen1983 said: Who's declared that? Plenty on Twitterย Quote
Ghost7 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Weโre in big big trouble now attack wise. Our star striker (Yuki) was purchased for virtually nothing, as were nearly all the players around him. Thereโs clearly a flat out refusal to pay decent fees for players and you canโt afford that in attack anymore in the Championship. Gaslit by Gestede. Championship players cost millions! 7 Quote
neophox Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Think Gueye thought he would be the nr one to lead the line....been messed with in pre season. Normally you want to show the manager he made som wrong decisions... But Gueye? Quote
neophox Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Strange no link to E Dennis who is available maybe on a free... He didn't show anything here thoughย Quote
neophox Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: Come on he isn't a Rovers fan or Blackburn lad there aren't many Barry Bannons around in reality' He sees the writing on the wall and there is nothing he can do about it after seeing everyone half decent sold or be allowed to leave.ย He's a late 20's Championship footballer on a modest - by Championship standards - basic wage so he wants security for his future it's perfectly normal.ย Add in he wants to link up with a gaffer who will use his strengths, a club with an upward ambition and he'll get a contract of 3 or 4 years worth several million in total. This isn't on him it's an the club just like two thirds of the rest we've now lost. Can't see who he will replace in the Derby midfield. Quote
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