2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[OnionBalaji]

Amazed reading the LET comments about Trav leaving…. Has to be plants. 

a player who bled blue and white and did work hard for the badge - not a mutinous snake 

if those views resemble even a portion of the views of the wider fanbase we really have hit a low point in humanity and mental capabilities. 
 

As soon as a player or manager leaves now suddenly everyone is a greedy snake who we should be glad to be rid of… 

[Hasta]

14 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Spurs could have done the Wharton deal in January instead of Palace tho?What was stopping them?

 

 

IT - WAS - JANUARY.

Go research the top 10 fees paid by teams in the Prem in Jan 2024.

Then look at the top 10 fees paid that summer.

Premier League clubs spent just £96.2m on new signings during the January 2024 window - the lowest winter spending in three years, with the Premier League's Profit and Sustainability Rules (PSR) slashing clubs' spending power.

In the summer practically every club bought at least 2 players for over £10mill. Some were buying multiple players over £20million.

Premier League clubs splashed £2.08bn on new signings during the summer window - not quite hitting the record-breaking £2.44bn spent last year.

 

£96.2mill in Jan.

£2.08bn in summer.

Still think we wouldn’t have got much more?

 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Hasta

[islander200]

3 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Using funds in January,

FFP/PSR cycles mean that less money is available for clubs to spend in mid season as they have already done the bulk of their spending during the summer

Which is why you do not sell in January unless you are offered silly money

Adding 5 million to their books for that year would have made them fail Psr?

Imo he would have gone in the summer anywhere for between 22-25 million.

I think his talent is worth more but I  genuinely think its pie in the sky to think we would have been receiving bids of 30 million for him a few months after teams could have bought him for 18.

Wrongly I agree but Archie Gray had a bigger reputation than Adam Wharton and again I know some think it means fuck all but Gray played all age groups for England was in the under 21s at 17 or 18 years of age and had been involved in a Leeds squad in the prem.

Dibling was a bright spark for Southampton last season in the Premier league hence the ridiculous price tag

If we had been in the Premier league and got relegated with Adam Wharton and he showed the quality he had done for us in the championship then we would have been getting massive bids 

 

[islander200]

6 minutes ago, Hasta said:

IT - WAS - JANUARY.

Go research the top 10 fees paid by teams in the Prem in Jan 2024.

Then look at the top 10 fees paid that summer.

Premier League clubs spent just £96.2m on new signings during the January 2024 window - the lowest winter spending in three years, with the Premier League's Profit and Sustainability Rules (PSR) slashing clubs' spending power.

In the summer practically every club bought at least 2 players for over £10mill. Some were buying multiple players over £20million.

Premier League clubs splashed £2.08bn on new signings during the summer window - not quite hitting the record-breaking £2.44bn spent last year.

 

£96.2mill in Jan.

£2.08bn in summer.

Still think we wouldn’t have got much more?

 

 

 

It was 18 million.That is not a big fee, it's paid over his contract so he signs a 4 year deal less than 5 million is going on that seasons books.

If there was zero doubts about him then bigger teams would have been in for him at the 18 million not waiting until the summer and paying 30 

Also do many clubs make world class talents available for such little fees in january usually they add a premium ffs?.There was an opportunity there to get a top talent for peanuts really but nobody bit apart from Palace.

Edited 2 hours ago by islander200

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

 

[chaddyrovers]

Its good that Travis's replacement has signed already and here. Looks hope he is ready after the international break. Loan to buy is sensible move given what we know about why he failed a medical a few weeks ago. 

On Travis leaving, its a shame he is going but most people thought he would go this summer. Don't get why Derby but its his choice. Eustace factor I guess. 

10 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

Quite odd that Jackson/Nixon haven't thrown a name out there in a while to get folk talking.

Quietest it's been with actual transfer links in a long time.

Only bit I can see is Nixon replying to someone on X that it's "painfully and ridiculously slow" when asked about incomings.

Well, its got busy later in the day and Nixon will do a story on a winger on Sunday

9 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Whoever it is on the inside again trying to turn people against Travis.

Wonder who it is. Whoever it is, grossly unprofessional.

who is turning on Travis? Didn't you think he would leave this summer given the Eustace links and he had 12 months left on his contract

49 minutes ago, alexanders said:

Remember when Chaddy said Todd Cantwell would be a good alternative as captain and he got ridiculed?

 

well he is our new captain 

Yes I did and people did ridiculed me. I think its a very smart move by Ismael but also given Cantwell trust and leadership of the head coach. 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Its good that Travis's replacement has signed already and here. Looks hope he is ready after the international break. Loan to buy is sensible move given what we know about why he failed a medical a few weeks ago. 

Why are we only replacing Travis and not strengthening CM?

[Hasta]

14 minutes ago, islander200 said:

It was 18 million.That is not a big fee, it's paid over his contract so he signs a 4 year deal less than 5 million is going on that seasons books.

If there was zero doubts about him then bigger teams would have been in for him at the 18 million not waiting until the summer and paying 30

So why did clubs spend 2 billion in summer but only 90million in January. Why didn’t they just all go out and buy their targets in January?

How many England under 21 caps did Alex Scott have when he moved to Bournemouth in the summer before for almost £30 million?

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Hasta

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Nothing but a fire sale.

[roversfan99]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Its good that Travis's replacement has signed already and here. Looks hope he is ready after the international break. Loan to buy is sensible move given what we know about why he failed a medical a few weeks ago. 

On Travis leaving, its a shame he is going but most people thought he would go this summer. Don't get why Derby but its his choice. Eustace factor I guess. 

Well, its got busy later in the day and Nixon will do a story on a winger on Sunday

who is turning on Travis? Didn't you think he would leave this summer given the Eustace links and he had 12 months left on his contract

Yes I did and people did ridiculed me. I think its a very smart move by Ismael but also given Cantwell trust and leadership of the head coach. 

If you cant see that the twitter account in question is someone on the inside, trying to manipulate fans against departing players and trying to make the club seem helpless in such situations, then I dunno what to say.

It is someone who has a 100% record in revealing news. For that, they must be right up the food chain. Whether its one of Gestede/Sufi/Owen or someone they are purposely feeding news to, I dont know.

The account aside from revealing incomings has been happy to repeatedly imply that Brittain and Travis have been unprofessional, have defended the club on contracts and claimed they were offered ages ago despite all of those players saying publically that they hadnt, and has got into spats with fans who have not swallowed the bullshit, even calling Glen Mullan a "doom merchant."

For someone so keen on strong communication, you surely not only can see that but recognise that its grossly unprofessional from the individual and the club to communicate like this from behind an anonymous twitter handle.

I did expect Travis to leave but only because of our pathetic inability to sort contracts out. I also knew that these issues would totally overshadow everything else. Its depressing to see another key player leave and replaced this time by a guy relegated from the Swiss league, on loan, who is injured.

[Hasta]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Its good that Travis's replacement has signed already and here. Looks hope he is ready after the international break. Loan to buy is sensible move given what we know about why he failed a medical a few weeks ago. 

I’m not so much worried about him being ready, as opposed to whether someone who has spent the majority of their career in the Italian pub leagues is anywhere near as good.

[Mattyblue]

Yeah it’s me that’s dug myself into a hole over the Wharton fee.

Edited 2 hours ago by Mattyblue

[simongarnerisgod]

22 minutes ago, OnionBalaji said:

Amazed reading the LET comments about Trav leaving…. Has to be plants. 

a player who bled blue and white and did work hard for the badge - not a mutinous snake 

if those views resemble even a portion of the views of the wider fanbase we really have hit a low point in humanity and mental capabilities. 
 

As soon as a player or manager leaves now suddenly everyone is a greedy snake who we should be glad to be rid of… 

they are definately rovers shills or telegraph employees being told to post happy clapping stuff,everyone leaving is a traitor and anyone coming in is an improvement and a good deal,come on please,nobody is that naive

[Herbie6590]

45 minutes ago, J*B said:

Can we start some conspiracy theories about why Rudy Gestede will only sign players over 6 ft 2 please? Some ancient French/Benin tradition with a questionable link to witchcraft or something?

We accidentally over-ordered 2XL shirts from Macron & so need players who fit them…

[islander200]

14 minutes ago, Hasta said:

So why did clubs spend 2 billion in summer but only 90million in January. Why didn’t they just all go out and buy their targets in January?

How many England under 21 caps did Alex Scotthave when he moved to Bournemouth in the summer before for almost £30 million?

 

25 million Scott was with reportedly no sell on fee again I think Scott was being appreciated more than Wharton (wrongly) side and was starting ahead of young players at prem clubs for England u-21.I have previously said 25 max I think we would have gotten for Wharton 

I take your point about January spending but its rare a club are trying to push out a player as talented as Wharton for the price we sold him for .And for eg Spurs where looking for a midfielder like Wharton and if they favoured him over Gray they would have been putting a bid in when they knew we were desperate sellers rather than pay 30 for Wharton In the summer.

We were playing poorly , Wharton had his share of poor games also as you would expect at that age

It's my opinion that clubs had doubts about wrongly so...why is a lad who is obviously so talented not being picked for the England underage teams all the way up.The coaches must have had a reason for not selecting him, even with big club bias plenty of players from other championship clubs were being involved 

I wasn't sharing their doubts and every big  club would pay a fortune for him now but after letting him prove himself at another PREM club

 

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[islander200]

13 minutes ago, Hasta said:

So why did clubs spend 2 billion in summer but only 90million in January. Why didn’t they just all go out and buy their targets in January?

How many England under 21 caps did Alex Scotthave when he moved to Bournemouth in the summer before for almost £30 million?

 

Not sure how many caps but yeah he was playing for them when at Bristol City

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, islander200 said:

25 million Scott was with reportedly no sell on fee again I think Scott was being appreciated more than Wharton (wrongly) side and was starting ahead of young players at prem clubs for England u-21.I have previously said 25 max I think we would have gotten for Wharton 

I take your point about January spending but its rare a club are trying to push out a player as talented as Wharton for the price we sold him for .And for eg Spurs where looking for a midfielder like Wharton and if they favoured him over Gray they would have been putting a bid in when they knew we were desperate sellers rather than pay 30 for Wharton In the summer.

We were playing poorly , Wharton had his share of poor games also as you would expect at that age

It's my opinion that clubs had doubts about wrongly so...why is a lad who is obviously so talented not being picked for the England underage teams all the way up.The coaches must have had a reason for not selecting him, even with big club bias plenty of players from other championship clubs were being involved 

I wasn't sharing their doubts and every big  club would pay a fortune for him now but after letting him prove himself at another PREM club

 

I dont get why whether one England under 21 manager selects him or not, why that determines how highly rated he was across the board?

Also, international selections are often weighted towards bigger clubs.

Surely more reasonable logic is to look at the direct circumstances. Where we desperate to sell? Yes. Was it in the summer when clubs spend far more, especially on players not necessarily to slot straight in? No. Brings the price down.

[Hasta]

5 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Not sure how many caps but yeah he was playing for them when at Bristol City

No he wasn’t. Made his debut February 2024.

[KentExile]

56 minutes ago, J*B said:

Can we start some conspiracy theories about why Rudy Gestede will only sign players over 6 ft 2 please? Some ancient French/Benin tradition with a questionable link to witchcraft or something?

Voodoo in Benin - What you need to know

Genuinely is the biggest religion in Benin apparently

 

Edited 2 hours ago by KentExile

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

If you cant see that the twitter account in question is someone on the inside, trying to manipulate fans against departing players and trying to make the club seem helpless in such situations, then I dunno what to say.

It is someone who has a 100% record in revealing news. For that, they must be right up the food chain. Whether its one of Gestede/Sufi/Owen or someone they are purposely feeding news to, I dont know.

The account aside from revealing incomings has been happy to repeatedly imply that Brittain and Travis have been unprofessional, have defended the club on contracts and claimed they were offered ages ago despite all of those players saying publically that they hadnt, and has got into spats with fans who have not swallowed the bullshit, even calling Glen Mullan a "doom merchant."

For someone so keen on strong communication, you surely not only can see that but recognise that its grossly unprofessional from the individual and the club to communicate like this from behind an anonymous twitter handle.

I did expect Travis to leave but only because of our pathetic inability to sort contracts out. I also knew that these issues would totally overshadow everything else. Its depressing to see another key player leave and replaced this time by a guy relegated from the Swiss league, on loan, who is injured.

I can see the account and I read the posts when they do. Yes it is deffo someone in the know. I don't think the account really makes people turn on Travis. Some will natural cos he wants to leave. I don't get his desire to go to Derby but it must be his close relationship with Eustace, so fair enough. Its his choice. 

I thought Brittain would be the one player to re-sign here and how wrong I was

[alexanders]

He wants to find players similar to himself. He is 6 4

[roversfan99]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I can see the account and I read the posts when they do. Yes it is deffo someone in the know. I don't think the account really makes people turn on Travis. Some will natural cos he wants to leave. I don't get his desire to go to Derby but it must be his close relationship with Eustace, so fair enough. Its his choice. 

I thought Brittain would be the one player to re-sign here and how wrong I was

These players wont sign new deals here, not because of a relationship with Eustace. But because mainly of money, like anyone. Our inability to offer new deals promptly and offer sufficient new deals has led to us being unable to get anyone to sign in years. We dont offer competitive wages. 

That account clearly has an intention to make the club seem helpless and the players leaving to be unprofessional. Suggesting they had new deals offered ages ago when they said they hadnt, and repeatedly suggesting that they dont want to play for us. Unprofessional and tacky.

Thankfully most have seen through it. But it sums up how dysfunctional we are.

[Hasta]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I don't get his desire to go to Derby but it must be his close relationship with Eustace,

I said in April an ex-player told me the senior players were all pissed off with Waggot and Pasha for the lack of ambition, the way they run the club and with Eustace leaving. Looks what has happened with the senior players since.

It’s not their close relationship with Eustace. It’s the lack of any relationships at Ewood. They no longer like the working environment,

Edited 2 hours ago by Hasta

[islander200]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont get why whether one England under 21 manager selects him or not, why that determines how highly rated he was across the board?

Also, international selections are often weighted towards bigger clubs.

Surely more reasonable logic is to look at the direct circumstances. Where we desperate to sell? Yes. Was it in the summer when clubs spend far more, especially on players not necessarily to slot straight in? No. Brings the price down.

It isn't just that 

He was available for 18 million , it would not have been a secret and only Palace came in.I accept we would have got more but not 30 million and every time a young player makes a move its made out that its proof we would have got a similar fee for  Wharton 

Like earlier this summer the defender real Madrid signed from Bournemouth was used a Spanish international after earning plaudits for a strong season at the top level 

Dibling after some decent performances in the prem and others they are different circumstances 

I'm obviously gutted Wharton left so soon and I said we would get a bit more money but not 30 million like some think because Spurs happened to pay that for Gray

Whether I'm right or wrong it makes no difference anyway whether he was sold for a million or 100 million we know it wasn't going to go back into the team anyway so yeah be gutted about losing a talented home grown player a fan who was an exciting player to watch but I wouldn't be getting too upset over the fee if you think It could have been much higher.its been said a multiple time by gestede and Pasha it doesn't effect budget 

[islander200]

13 minutes ago, Hasta said:

No he wasn’t. Made his debut February 2024.

I stand corrected. But he was still in the squads wasn't he?

Look If you think we would have got 30 million in the summer then good for you but I disagree and I have given my reasons why