2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, KentExile said:

care to point out where?

1) It remains to be seen IF we have been playing that way

AND

2) IF that will be the preferred way of playing this season

Which isn't too far from the point I was trying to make in a light hearted way. But I should be watching another sport or something.

I haven't seen any of the pre season warm ups and couldn't care less whether we set up 2-2-2-2-2 or 4-4 fucking 2 in good old Mike Bassett fashion as long as it works.

All that matters is that whatever formation we try it works, we score more goals than the opposition, and we win football matches.

 

[KentExile]

14 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

1) It remains to be seen IF we have been playing that way

AND

2) IF that will be the preferred way of playing this season

Which isn't too far from the point I was trying to make in a light hearted way. But I should be watching another sport or something.

I haven't seen any of the pre season warm ups and couldn't care less whether we set up 2-2-2-2-2 or 4-4 fucking 2 in good old Mike Bassett fashion as long as it works.

All that matters is that whatever formation we try it works, we score more goals than the opposition, and we win football matches.

 

Please read again, I said "or", not "and"

No contradiction at all

Apologies for the "maybe you should be watching another sport" comment, I just took exception to you  pulling up Chaddy (on this occasion) who, whilst I do think trots out a lot of nonsense which borders on club propaganda, was not wrong in the comment he made that you responded to.

But I am happy to leave it there

Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Please read again, I said "or", not "and"

No contradiction at all

In the context you wrote it, "or" means the same as "and". ie "both"  not either/or.

Straying way off the point though which was that I can't imagine we'll have learnt too much about how we're going to set up for the action proper from pre season and secondly despite efforts to complicate it football is basically a very simple game and within reason Id have to agree with Souness in that football is not won and lost by formations but by the 11 players out on the pitch winning their individual  battles.

[roversfan99]

50 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You are fixated with having loads of players. We can only register 25 players 

2 players per position with extra keeper, centre back, centre midfielder and striker should be more than enough for us. 

why do we need 11 players for 4 attacking positions? 

Bench wise you want 3/4 attacking players, back up right back/ left back/centre back and 1/2 centre midfielders. 

 

Right winger should be current main priority to sign. 

You posted like we don't already know all this RF99. Do you think we all know who has left? 

Again chaddy, quality. Its not about numbers, its about quality. We dont have enough goals, enough pace and enough creativity.

The minimum should be a right winger and a striker. Which is exactly what you also want. The one you didnt want is an attacking midfielder which presumably you dont agree with the signing of as you didnt think it was needed.

We arent close to registration limits.

[bluebruce]

53 minutes ago, NeilInBristol said:

Loving these new emoji reactions!! Great work forum team 👌

I'm sure it won't be long before people are using them passive aggressively like the laughing emoji.

[Paul Mani]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I like the way you've divided "midfield" up into FIVE different segments to try and justify the number of midfielders. Lol.

We agree on the pressing need for a new RAM as you call it (or RW as I would call it) but where are the 2 senior alternatives for Ohashi and Gueye?

IF we got all those 3 (currently we have none) then we'd be looking a lot better placed to tackle the season.

Haha - tbf, I just divided the positions as they are on the pitch. I think a few could play across those forward positions but it seems like they’ve identified two primary players per position.

Hence why there’s only Ohashi and Gueye for the ST position. Because we only play with one striker.

I still think with those three we’d be light once the inevitable injuries and suspensions hit. Need those three and a couple of quality loans for me…

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, Paul Mani said:

I still think with those three we’d be light once the inevitable injuries and suspensions hit. Need those three and a couple of quality loans for me…

On that we agree. First time for everything!

But hang on.....are you therefore now saying we need 5?

Seems to strongly contradict what you've been saying previously.

[KentExile]

Watford sign Alleyne (who was linked ro Rovers a week or so ago) on loan from Man City

[Southside Rover]

3 hours ago, sjsbrfc said:

Interesting  🤨 

New CEO lol

[KentExile]

7 minutes ago, Southside Rover said:

New CEO lol

lol, nope, he dropped out after the last round of interviews, it is now between 2 for the post

[alex l]

New squad numbers announced. Notably 11 is still available. 

[KentExile]

5 minutes ago, alex l said:

New squad numbers announced. Notably 11 is still available. 

 

Not that numbers mean much these days (sadly)

 

Edited 1 hour ago by KentExile

[Paul Mani]

53 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

On that we agree. First time for everything!

But hang on.....are you therefore now saying we need 5?

Seems to strongly contradict what you've been saying previously.

And what was it that I’ve been saying previously? As far as I can recall I haven’t stipulated how many I wanted. Just that I refuse to judge the ones we have signed as better or worse than we had before, until I’ve watched them play.

I actually wouldn’t sign another striker, unless we sell, or loan BOTH Leonard and Tyjon. Because I genuinely believe that Ohashi and Gueye are good enough and should be given the chance. The loans I’d target would be young, wide forwards who can create and maybe get us 5-10 goals. 

[roversfan99]

Leonard is a write off, even if he stays he cant stay fit. And Tyjon seems unlikely to play up front.

With other positions, 2 for 1 can work especially as they can often be covered with veraatility. But at times we might want 2 up front at once in games, or if there is one injury, its always at least important to have someone on the bench.

Also, Gueye cant just slot in for Ohashi so it requires a change of tactics.

[pick32]

Probably retired the 11 shirt for Shearer 🥱

[Paul Mani]

5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Leonard is a write off, even if he stays he cant stay fit. And Tyjon seems unlikely to play up front.

With other positions, 2 for 1 can work especially as they can often be covered with veraatility. But at times we might want 2 up front at once in games, or if there is one injury, its always at least important to have someone on the bench.

Also, Gueye cant just slot in for Ohashi so it requires a change of tactics.

Yeah, like I said. It depends what the manager thinks on this….i know that the coaching team love Leonard. Rated him in the Ash Phillips, Adam Wharton category a few years ago. So if they think he can stay fit then maybe they’re willing to give him a chance.

I get your point on strikers but it works the other way too. If they are going to back Ohashi and Gueye to play and score the goals we need then who is going to come in on loan and wait for one of them to get injured just to sit on the bench? The whole point of players going out on loan is to play, right? Next point, do you really wanna piss one or both of your own established strikers by bringing in some kid on loan who takes game time in time to go back to their own club who reap the rewards?

I don’t expect you to agree (I’ve learnt that lesson) but I’m just trying to provide another perspective.

Maybe, just maybe they believe in Ohashi, Gueye, Leonard and Tyjon? 

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

27 minutes ago, KentExile said:

 

Not that numbers mean much these days (sadly)

 

hopefully not because Pears is #1

[roversfan99]

5 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Yeah, like I said. It depends what the manager thinks on this….i know that the coaching team love Leonard. Rated him in the Ash Phillips, Adam Wharton category a few years ago. So if they think he can stay fit then maybe they’re willing to give him a chance.

I get your point on strikers but it works the other way too. If they are going to back Ohashi and Gueye to play and score the goals we need then who is going to come in on loan and wait for one of them to get injured just to sit on the bench? The whole point of players going out on loan is to play, right? Next point, do you really wanna piss one or both of your own established strikers by bringing in some kid on loan who takes game time in time to go back to their own club who reap the rewards?

I don’t expect you to agree (I’ve learnt that lesson) but I’m just trying to provide another perspective.

Maybe, just maybe they believe in Ohashi, Gueye, Leonard and Tyjon? 

They might "love" Leonard, indeed they supposedly loved Buckley. But he has proven for a number of years now that he cant stay fit and hasnt been involved with the first team in pre season. If hes fit, he needs to go elsewhere either on loan or permanently to try and make a career because its massively stalled as a result. Tyjon has only ever come on in an attacking midfield role, not as the main striker so he wouldnt be in direct competition, not even factoring in his contract situation.

I am not advocating signing someone to sit on the bench. I am suggesting to get someone (doesnt have to be a loan) to really push for a starting spot. There are plenty of minutes, attacking players are often taken off after an hour especially if we are going to play a high press. But if we use say Ohashi for an hour, its awkward to have no choice but to alter our tactics to bring on a big lump in his place. There are times when that approach might be needed, if we need a goal then Gueye and Ohashi/another striker can come on. We need flexibility, we need to be fully covered and we need different options. Its a position you dont want to be left light in, we found that during Ohashi's injury last season.

We shouldnt not sign someone as to not upset current players threatened by current competition. We need more quality and more options. Ideally, someone with some pace and perhaps a central striker who could also play from a wide position if we wanted.

[windymiller7]

33 minutes ago, KentExile said:

 

Not that numbers mean much these days (sadly)

 

Anyone else slightly disappointed that AK hasn't kept the No 47 shirt? I actually quite liked the play on that, as tacky as it might've been.

[MarkBRFC]

37 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Not that numbers mean much these days (sadly)

 

Duru not getting a squad number shows where he is in the pecking order.

Also odd to give Pratt one seeing as it's very unlikely they will be registering him after September 1st.

Edited 59 minutes ago by MarkBRFC

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

They might "love" Leonard, indeed they supposedly loved Buckley. But he has proven for a number of years now that he cant stay fit and hasnt been involved with the first team in pre season. If hes fit, he needs to go elsewhere either on loan or permanently to try and make a career because its massively stalled as a result. Tyjon has only ever come on in an attacking midfield role, not as the main striker so he wouldnt be in direct competition, not even factoring in his contract situation.

I am not advocating signing someone to sit on the bench. I am suggesting to get someone (doesnt have to be a loan) to really push for a starting spot. There are plenty of minutes, attacking players are often taken off after an hour especially if we are going to play a high press. But if we use say Ohashi for an hour, its awkward to have no choice but to alter our tactics to bring on a big lump in his place. There are times when that approach might be needed, if we need a goal then Gueye and Ohashi/another striker can come on. We need flexibility, we need to be fully covered and we need different options. Its a position you dont want to be left light in, we found that during Ohashi's injury last season.

We shouldnt not sign someone as to not upset current players threatened by current competition. We need more quality and more options. Ideally, someone with some pace and perhaps a central striker who could also play from a wide position if we wanted.

Agree. ideally we sign a striker better than Yuki and Gueye. Forget about Leonard until he's got at least half a season under his belt. 

[rob_of_the_rovers]

Assume Duru is going on loan then seeing as he's not been given a number

[Paul Mani]

3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

They might "love" Leonard, indeed they supposedly loved Buckley. But he has proven for a number of years now that he cant stay fit and hasnt been involved with the first team in pre season. If hes fit, he needs to go elsewhere either on loan or permanently to try and make a career because its massively stalled as a result. Tyjon has only ever come on in an attacking midfield role, not as the main striker so he wouldnt be in direct competition, not even factoring in his contract situation.

I am not advocating signing someone to sit on the bench. I am suggesting to get someone (doesnt have to be a loan) to really push for a starting spot. There are plenty of minutes, attacking players are often taken off after an hour especially if we are going to play a high press. But if we use say Ohashi for an hour, its awkward to have no choice but to alter our tactics to bring on a big lump in his place. There are times when that approach might be needed, if we need a goal then Gueye and Ohashi/another striker can come on. We need flexibility, we need to be fully covered and we need different options. Its a position you dont want to be left light in, we found that during Ohashi's injury last season.

We shouldnt not sign someone as to not upset current players threatened by current competition. We need more quality and more options. Ideally, someone with some pace and perhaps a central striker who could also play from a wide position if we wanted.

Yes, and as reasonable as your rationale sounds in your head, it’s important to accept that VI / the club may see it differently.

Based on what you’re saying and what the club are saying, I sit somewhere in the middle in that I would probably go with what we have in terms of strikers, but I would definitely get a couple of young forwards who could play across that attacking midfield 3. Thinking Harvey Elliot-esq!

[Paul Mani]

4 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Agree. ideally we sign a striker better than Yuki and Gueye. Forget about Leonard until he's got at least half a season under his belt. 

In honesty, if I was offered a striker who was better than both Ohashi and Gueye, on a permenant deal then I’d absolutely snap your hand off. But there’s been absolute no suggestion that is is in any agenda. 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Regardless of people’s opinions and preferences it certainly seems going by all interviews that the right wing position will be the last in the attacking sense - and it’s criminal it hasn’t been addressed before tomorrow 

cantwell already missing game one