Hasta Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: I suspect we can't actually match it as there's clearly absolutely no fucking money floating around the club. The owners could, but they seem to have cut us adrift. Like every club in this league for a few years, if the owners don’t put any money in we’d be screwed full stop. So they have to put money in. They just choose not to put as much in as 3 years ago. Maybe it’s their choice. Maybe Suhail tells them not to. But regardless we, as Blackburn Rovers, could match the offer and stay within the budget we were working to a couple of years ago. We choose not to. 12 months ago we were trying to keep Szmodics (apparently). What were we offering. Magic beans? Edited August 22 by Hasta 1 Quote
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Hasta Posted August 22 Posted August 22 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: You can always match it if you really want. Just play with a smaller squad. Albeit the major problem is clearly lack of investment from the top. Exactly. Give him the money we allegedly paid per week for Dennis. 2 Quote
RTM08 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 7 minutes ago, AJW said: Wasn’t Gestede moaning about how few minutes our home grown players had got last season … how many of our home grown players will start games this season ? Honestly looking at the current crop that are in and around the team... too many. We've sold any of them that are actually good enough for this level. Quote
islander200 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 11 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: He has two under 21 caps though… He has played in the Premier league and played well. Keep digging.At the end of the day he was available for 18 million.Crystal Palace where the only club to come in for him. Fact. Quote
MB Rover Posted August 22 Posted August 22 3 minutes ago, islander200 said: He has played in the Premier league and played well. Keep digging.At the end of the day he was available for 18 million.Crystal Palace where the only club to come in for him. Fact. Why was he available for £18mil? JDT didn’t seem to think he was available at all….. 5 Quote
Hasta Posted August 22 Posted August 22 Just now, islander200 said: He has played in the Premier league and played well. Keep digging.At the end of the day he was available for 18 million.Crystal Palace where the only club to come in for him. Fact. More stupidity to call out. That’s because we suddenly had to sell for cash flow issues at short notice in a January market. Otherwise why would we have sold when in contention for play offs? If they had hung on until summer they’d have had more bidders and got more. Or been promoted. 3 Quote
islander200 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 Just now, MB Rover said: Why was he available for £18mil? JDT didn’t seem to think he was available at all….. The club had made him available. Do you think it was a secret and only Crystal Palace knew we were looking to sell? Do I think we should have sold him in that window?No But I think the player himself would have surely for the sake of his own career been looking to move on in the summer.Yes I think 18 million was too little for him and we would have got a bit more in the summer but its pie in the sky to be thinking we would have been getting bids like 30...40...million whilst playing for us a middle of the road championship side which we have become under this ownership. I reference the under 21s which matty blue keeps digging me about because if he was being recognised outside the club as a world class talent he would have been in their squads and bigger clubs than Palace would have been in for him. Quote
MarkBRFC Posted August 22 Posted August 22 19 minutes ago, Waggy76 said: There was a poster on here a few months, who suggested that 2027, could the end of the Venkys. For the same reasons, you are quoting that most of the players contracts are up.. 🙏 Won't be the end of venkys, I always believed it would be the end of us as a second division club. Looks like it could happen a year ahead of schedule to be fair. Quote
islander200 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 4 minutes ago, Hasta said: More stupidity to call out. That’s because we suddenly had to sell for cash flow issues at short notice in a January market. Otherwise why would we have sold when in contention for play offs? If they had hung on until summer they’d have had more bidders and got more. Or been promoted. Promoted we hadn't won in a game In ages and we where on a downward spiral.Wharton was not having a great season like the rest of them.Moments of great quality yes but not consistent.He wasn't playing like he did v Blackpool every week Yes we would have got a bit more but it would not have been a lot more Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted August 22 Posted August 22 1 minute ago, islander200 said: Promoted we hadn't won in a game In ages and we where on a downward spiral.Wharton was not having a great season like the rest of them.Moments of great quality yes but not consistent.He wasn't playing like he did v Blackpool every week Yes we would have got a bit more but it would not have been a lot more So like Suhail, you couldn't see the talent in him either, and wouldn't have waited (at least) 12 months? 5 Quote
islander200 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 Just now, RevidgeBlue said: So like Suhail, you couldn't see the talent in him either, and wouldn't have waited (at least) 12 months? I could see the talent, and i disagreed with us selling him in that window. My point is though why did none of the big boys not come in at that price?A world class talent and they let Palace have him for the 18 million? And again rated so highly outside of our vlub but wasnt making the under 21 squads.Why? Quote
alexanders Posted August 22 Posted August 22 Remember when Chaddy said Todd Cantwell would be a good alternative as captain and he got ridiculed? well he is our new captain 2 3 Quote
Old Codger Posted August 22 Posted August 22 News for anyone who has had their head up their arse for the last 14 sad years.... Venkys don't re-invest money made on player sales in replacements. Doesn't matter if Adam Wharton had been sold for £150 million - none of it would have been ploughed back into playing staff. VENKY FIFA PLAYING MORONIC WADFANKERS OUT! 7 Quote
Hasta Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 13 minutes ago, islander200 said: I could see the talent, and i disagreed with us selling him in that window. My point is though why did none of the big boys not come in at that price?A world class talent and they let Palace have him for the 18 million? And again rated so highly outside of our vlub but wasnt making the under 21 squads.Why? As I said above, it’s because they fire-sold him at a relatively short notice in January. At that moment in time only Palace were looking, so we had no negotiating power and had to sell him. As much as Prem clubs can throw money around, most won’t throw £30mill around unplanned, and some would already have spent. Plus look at the trouble the likes of Newcastle and Villa are having with PSR. Everyone knew you would have more interest, more bidders and thus a higher fee in July. But we don’t think more than the next bill we have to pay in front. Edited August 22 by Hasta 2 Quote
sharpysharps86 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 7 minutes ago, alexanders said: Remember when Chaddy said Todd Cantwell would be a good alternative as captain and he got ridiculed? well he is our new captain 1 Quote
J*B Posted August 22 Posted August 22 Can we start some conspiracy theories about why Rudy Gestede will only sign players over 6 ft 2 please? Some ancient French/Benin tradition with a questionable link to witchcraft or something? 5 Quote
London blue Posted August 22 Posted August 22 21 minutes ago, alexanders said: Remember when Chaddy said Todd Cantwell would be a good alternative as captain and he got ridiculed? well he is our new captain It says more about our dearth of options than any insight from Chadster. 2 Quote
islander200 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 9 minutes ago, Hasta said: As I said above, it’s because they fire-sold him at a relatively short notice in January. At that moment in time only Palace were looking, so we had no negotiating power and had to sell him. As much as Prem clubs can throw money around, most won’t throw £30mill around unplanned, and some would already have spent. Plus look at the trouble the likes of Newcastle and Villa are having with PSR. Everyone knew you would have more interest, more bidders and thus a higher fee in July. But we don’t think more than the next bill we have to pay in front. More interest I agree with but I honestly think it would have been clubs like Palace and other mid to lower teams bidding for him and iv said we would have got a bit more but not the 30 mill + that some on here seem convinced by I think there was something about him that was putting the big boys off...there was an article about Newcastles interest but they didn't follow through with there interest as they had doubts over him. Quote
alexanders Posted August 22 Posted August 22 2 minutes ago, London blue said: It says more about our dearth of options than any insight from Chadster. Not really. Both Tronstad and Mclouglin would be a good captains, 1 Quote
KentExile Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, islander200 said: More interest I agree with but I honestly think it would have been clubs like Palace and other mid to lower teams bidding for him and iv said we would have got a bit more but not the 30 mill + that some on here seem convinced by I think there was something about him that was putting the big boys off...there was an article about Newcastles interest but they didn't follow through with there interest as they had doubts over him. Or Spurs may have spent that £30M on Wharton rather than Gray Edited August 22 by KentExile Quote
islander200 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 1 minute ago, KentExile said: Or Spurs may have spent that £30M on Wharton rather than Gray Spurs could have done the Wharton deal in January instead of Palace tho?What was stopping them? Quote
KentExile Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, islander200 said: Spurs could have done the Wharton deal in January instead of Palace tho?What was stopping them? Using funds in January, FFP/PSR cycles mean that less money is available for clubs to spend in mid season as they have already done the bulk of their spending during the summer Which is why you do not sell in January unless you are offered silly money Edited August 22 by KentExile 2 Quote
Torgeir Posted August 22 Posted August 22 7 minutes ago, alexanders said: Not really. Both Tronstad and Mclouglin would be a good captains, McLoughlin just joined and Tronstad won't get picked as captain with his deal nearing its end as well. 2 Quote
London blue Posted August 22 Posted August 22 7 minutes ago, alexanders said: Not really. Both Tronstad and Mclouglin would be a good captains, Tronstad will be gone by the end of the year, McLouglin is just through the door. Cantwell is the only viable option, the other have been sold or released. 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted August 22 Posted August 22 14 minutes ago, J*B said: Can we start some conspiracy theories about why Rudy Gestede will only sign players over 6 ft 2 please? Some ancient French/Benin tradition with a questionable link to witchcraft or something? rudi loves himself so much he wants every guy in the squad to look like him,anyone who has`nt got the rudi look will be banished,pears and buckley to go next,far to white and short🙂 Quote
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