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I dont see us signing any of these free transfers, I dont see the club offering more than 10k a week, think it may upset a few if they decided to sign a dawson or bamford to be on double more than anyone else. I imagine they are saving money thinking they can get through to january with 2 strikers. Seems the cost cutting continues, a bare bones squad, do they not realise that injuries and suspensions happen in a 46 game season. 
Guess there thought pricess is:
Toth/Mikelski(young kid)
alebiousu/taylor  miller/carter wharton/mcloughin ribeiro/pickering
                    tron/forshaw/monty   tavares/balaji
                                     cantwell/henriksen
hedges/miroshita                                             de neve/kargbo
                                    yuki/gudjohnsen/iygor

with the following able to play in various:
miller
taylor
miroshita
henriksen

I mean the numbers of players are there, but the quality to rely upon is not.. iygor not ready, mikleski(young keeper) not ready, forshaw, de neve not looking good enough, and tavares has not started well, and gudjohnsen is a unknown. When you take those 6  out potentially not good enough that leaves you 19, and a few injuries to some of those or suspensions could leave you with like 15/16 on matchday, but not the best of quality all round. And with the injury record some of our lot have its probably going to be like 15 players maybe solid enough to compete available.

I imagine pears will be tried to be offloaded to somewhere like turkey to. Cost cutting at its finest. I do get a hunch that the cb free transfer links are a bit of a smoke screen to try and calm things down a bit. 

Lets hope some of the newbies hit the ground running after the international break, not ideal that half of them are away on international duty, yuki and gudjohnsen come back both injured, who you picking up top... 

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34 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I don't think so.

Just like how there's no plan in letting Hyam go, just shift Miller into that role.

I think the plan has always been two "senior" strikers and then Tyjon as third choice.

Yes totally agree with this. Ismael has a similar opinion on Gueye as Roversfan99, and given his performances since Ismael came in it's hard to blame him. Not done a single thing since February. Shame as for a period November to January he looked very promising.

According to Transfermarkt we paid EUR 1.8M for him, and given where we are just letting him go for a loan seems another big financial loss again. We are really really poor at making our theoretical model (buy cheap, develop and make a profit) work. Only really managed it with a few big names (Szmodics, Wharton). Hyam, Brittain we have sold on what modest increments of money which we bought them for, easily wiped out by losses on players like Gueye, Markanday, Gallagher, Diaz

Reading through this list season by season it's really depressing how we constantly lose our best players but Szmodics, Wharton and Armstrong apart we have really struggled to bring in decent fees. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/blackburn-rovers/alletransfers/verein/164

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12 minutes ago, ruggles1995 said:

I dont see us signing any of these free transfers, I dont see the club offering more than 10k a week, think it may upset a few if they decided to sign a dawson or bamford to be on double more than anyone else. I imagine they are saving money thinking they can get through to january with 2 strikers. Seems the cost cutting continues, a bare bones squad, do they not realise that injuries and suspensions happen in a 46 game season. 
Guess there thought pricess is:
Toth/Mikelski(young kid)
alebiousu/taylor  miller/carter wharton/mcloughin ribeiro/pickering
                    tron/forshaw/monty   tavares/balaji
                                     cantwell/henriksen
hedges/miroshita                                             de neve/kargbo
                                    yuki/gudjohnsen/iygor

with the following able to play in various:
miller
taylor
miroshita
henriksen

I mean the numbers of players are there, but the quality to rely upon is not.. iygor not ready, mikleski(young keeper) not ready, forshaw, de neve not looking good enough, and tavares has not started well, and gudjohnsen is a unknown. When you take those 6  out potentially not good enough that leaves you 19, and a few injuries to some of those or suspensions could leave you with like 15/16 on matchday, but not the best of quality all round. And with the injury record some of our lot have its probably going to be like 15 players maybe solid enough to compete available.

I imagine pears will be tried to be offloaded to somewhere like turkey to. Cost cutting at its finest. I do get a hunch that the cb free transfer links are a bit of a smoke screen to try and calm things down a bit. 

Lets hope some of the newbies hit the ground running after the international break, not ideal that half of them are away on international duty, yuki and gudjohnsen come back both injured, who you picking up top... 

I think you are right and that is what will happen

I just do not think that this is what should happen, whilst on paper we have the numbers, it looks light on quality

PS - Young Keeper?  Do you mean 18 year old Michalski? or 21 year old Goddard?

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Said this earlier in the window but if we let Gueye go, especially on loan, without a replacement it can only be construed as an actual of self sabotage and a deliberate attempt to relegate us.

Can't believe people are in the main taking the potential news so calmly.

The Club will be the first to say how unlucky we are if either of our two strikers get injured though. We might as well have left ourselves with 2 CB's, it would have been no less suicidal.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

I don't rate Gueye that much but you'd think he'd have some uses as a "plan b" off the bench. 

Gudjohnsen best be up to it because otherwise we're in big trouble

but pathways !!!

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2 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

Biggest shock in all of this is the realistation we paid 1.5 million for Gueye. In my head we'd got him for 500k or something

we did get Yuki for "a low 6 figure fee" if that makes you feel any better?

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1 minute ago, Lancaster Rover said:

Biggest shock in all of this is the realistation we paid 1.5 million for Gueye. In my head we'd got him for 500k or something

It will have been "up to" £1.5m and we wouldn't be paying anywhere near it.

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1 hour ago, Torgeir said:

If we're getting rid of Gueye we must have a free transfer lined up. Dennis has a (big) point to prove here, and has worked under Ismael before, so I think that's the best we can hope for. He can play in different roles offensively as well.

"Hi mate fancy taking a 70% paycut to play at a team where you put no effort in for 6 months? No? No bother then, have a good weekend".

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22 minutes ago, Trinidad Rover said:

Pathways = Gueye moves on for Tyjon.

Saving money and creating these so called pathways are objective 1 and 2.

"This Japanese lad can't hold the ball up for toffee. Let's sell that big Senegalese lad and open up the pathway for that tiny English lad - I'm sure that'll solve all our problems."

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3 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

How does one find Iceland v Azerbaijan on the telly...?

https://news.bet365.com/en-gb/article/how-to-watch-iceland-v-azerbaijan-live-stream-tv-channel-kick-off-time-and-head-to-head-stats/2025090318262596870

Dodgy stick maybe? 😉 

Iceland v France is on amazon next week though, as is the Hungary game tomorrow

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/video/sports

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18 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

I don't rate Gueye that much but you'd think he'd have some uses as a "plan b" off the bench. 

Gudjohnsen best be up to it because otherwise we're in big trouble

Being relegated to a 'Plan B' role is why he's disappointed. He's simply not an impact sub - he struggles to get up to the speed of the game.

We looked our best when he was starting games and then Ohashi was coming on against tired legs on 60/70 minutes. 

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24 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Yes totally agree with this. Ismael has a similar opinion on Gueye as Roversfan99, and given his performances since Ismael came in it's hard to blame him. Not done a single thing since February. Shame as for a period November to January he looked very promising.

According to Transfermarkt we paid EUR 1.8M for him, and given where we are just letting him go for a loan seems another big financial loss again. We are really really poor at making our theoretical model (buy cheap, develop and make a profit) work. Only really managed it with a few big names (Szmodics, Wharton). Hyam, Brittain we have sold on what modest increments of money which we bought them for, easily wiped out by losses on players like Gueye, Markanday, Gallagher, Diaz

Reading through this list season by season it's really depressing how we constantly lose our best players but Szmodics, Wharton and Armstrong apart we have really struggled to bring in decent fees. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/blackburn-rovers/alletransfers/verein/164

Buying British talent and actually investing 1.5 million upwards before add ons, developing it then selling it HAS worked here as you've shown.

Chuck in Dack and Diaz who should have been sold for vast profit also if it wasn't for injury and incompetence and a lesser extent Rothwell then the model was there for all to see.  However you simply have to invest a decent chunk at first and pay them more than cheap imports.

They won't even do that now and certainly won't pay them so that model is consigned to the bin despite overwhelming evidence it was the right way to go, they just never got it right like stable well run other clubs have.

 

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Much as it weakens us further, I understand the move for Gueye at least. He is now 3rd choice striker, its not a case like Hyam where we sold our starting CB with no depth at the position. I rate Gueye more than most on this board but it makes sense for both parties.

Realistically, it is hard for a squad to carry more than two players for one position, especially someone like Gueye who was bought as a starter you'd think. 

I would have preferred we sold him during the window and brought in a versatile forward like Youan who can play striker or winger but clearly they want that "pathway" for Tyjon.

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Said a while ago that they probably think they can survive until January with centre back options they have and they will do the same up front.

Maybe, just conjecture, they will keep up to 2.5m for January and spend then (if they really have to) -"hey look, be happy, the new regime/alignment spends money in Jan unlike the previous set up with SWAG."

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54 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Said this earlier in the window but if we let Gueye go, especially on loan, without a replacement it can only be construed as an actual of self sabotage and a deliberate attempt to relegate us.

Can't believe people are in the main taking the potential news so calmly.

The Club will be the first to say how unlucky we are if either of our two strikers get injured though. We might as well have left ourselves with 2 CB's, it would have been no less suicidal.

Nah, we’ll do a Fred Pickering with the latest Pickering.

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2 hours ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Dennis has a higher ceiling, decent age so he only needs to put a few decent performances in and we'd make good profit on him next year. 

Are we talking about the same Dennis ? The one we had on loan last season ? He was beyond shite. A complete waste of money. And we want to do it again ? Crazy.

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