150th Anniversary kit/celebrations

[Upside Down]

7 hours ago, j166429 said:

Are we even sure that it has been proven beyond doubt that the white shirt with a maltese cross was our first ever shirt? (i know what it says on the rovers' website, but do we have any factual evidence?)

No.

It's a complete fiction.

In reproduced minutes supposedly of the initial meeting for the Foundation of the club (the date of this meeting is also up for debate) it was suggested that this would be the uniform worn by players. This is a suggestion in a meeting. I could suggest in a fans forum meeting that venkys sell up and fuck off but that doesn't mean it actually happens.

Absolutely zero evidence to suggest the team ever played in those colours and everything to suggest we've always played in Blue and White halves (quarters). The fact that the founders took inspiration from their school that wore this same pattern, except swapping green for blue, suggests that it is far far more likely that the blue and white shirts are what we've always worn.

This white shirt bollocks is on a football shirt website and that's it. No other sources contemporary to the time make any mention of this because it never happened. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Upside Down

[davulsukur]

3 hours ago, J*B said:

Can you upload pictures of the two pages?

I second this

[chaddyrovers]

Its great seeing all these videos from former players congratulations to Rovers on their 150th Birthday. 

King Kenny, Tim Sherwood and Mark Atkins were special ones for me. same as Kuqi, Bentley and Friedel 

[JHRover]

Standard Rovers playbook - get former players to record messages and send them in - easy and cheap

Where are the other announcements they were going to make over the course of the day?

I've seen the embarrassing 'VH Group' pages of the book. 

Amateur hour. 

The piece is written by a third party heaping praise on the owners for their impact on the club but really is just reciting what happened when they darkened our door in 2010.

Yet beneath the piece it is signed off as 'VH Group' as though they wrote it, which they obviously didn't. 

Two photographs used - one when the Queen came to Ewood and they turned up for their big moment and the other with the two idiot brothers at a game. The caption erroneously states that the photo is at Ewood for a game against Aston Villa, which is incorrect, the photo used is from the final game of the season at Wolves when their operation to relegate us nearly came to fruition in their first season.

Obviously there's zero reference to any accomplishments beyond becoming the first Indian owners of a (former) PL Club, vague references to investments in the Club and town (no specifics) and the Queen visiting. Quite the highlights reel from 15 years of ownership. Clearly no sporting accomplishments to mention nor any recent photos given their absence and no comments from the villains themselves who couldn't even make the effort for this occasion.

Edited 9 hours ago by JHRover

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6 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Standard Rovers playbook - get former players to record messages and send them in - easy and cheap

Where are the other announcements they were going to make over the course of the day?

I've seen the embarrassing 'VH Group' pages of the book. 

Amateur hour. 

The piece is written by a third party heaping praise on the owners for their impact on the club but really is just reciting what happened when they darkened our door in 2010.

Yet beneath the piece it is signed off as 'VH Group' as though they wrote it, which they obviously didn't. 

Two photographs used - one when the Queen came to Ewood and they turned up for their big moment and the other with the two idiot brothers at a game. The caption erroneously states that the photo is at Ewood for a game against Aston Villa, which is incorrect, the photo used is from the final game of the season at Wolves when their operation to relegate us nearly came to fruition in their first season.

Obviously there's zero reference to any accomplishments beyond becoming the first Indian owners of a (former) PL Club, vague references to investments in the Club and town (no specifics) and the Queen visiting. Quite the highlights reel from 15 years of ownership. Clearly no sporting accomplishments to mention nor any recent photos given their absence and no comments from the villains themselves who couldn't even make the effort for this occasion.

Pure embarrassment and anger at how this had all been handled. 

[Herbie6590]

1 hour ago, davulsukur said:

I second this

C/o New York Rovers on Twitter

[StHelensRover]

9 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

C/o New York Rovers on Twitter

Wow, won't be parting with £40 or however much it is for a book with a full page glossy photo of those jokers. They should have just swallowed their pride and omitted themselves from the book. 

[Herbie6590]

42 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Standard Rovers playbook - get former players to record messages and send them in - easy and cheap

Where are the other announcements they were going to make over the course of the day?

I've seen the embarrassing 'VH Group' pages of the book. 

Amateur hour. 

The piece is written by a third party heaping praise on the owners for their impact on the club but really is just reciting what happened when they darkened our door in 2010.

Yet beneath the piece it is signed off as 'VH Group' as though they wrote it, which they obviously didn't. 

Two photographs used - one when the Queen came to Ewood and they turned up for their big moment and the other with the two idiot brothers at a game. The caption erroneously states that the photo is at Ewood for a game against Aston Villa, which is incorrect, the photo used is from the final game of the season at Wolves when their operation to relegate us nearly came to fruition in their first season.

Obviously there's zero reference to any accomplishments beyond becoming the first Indian owners of a (former) PL Club, vague references to investments in the Club and town (no specifics) and the Queen visiting. Quite the highlights reel from 15 years of ownership. Clearly no sporting accomplishments to mention nor any recent photos given their absence and no comments from the villains themselves who couldn't even make the effort for this occasion.

 

[davulsukur]

18 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

C/o New York Rovers on Twitter

Thanks!

15 years of ownership and the only highlights they can come up with is signing Jordan Rhodes and Her Majesty turning up which was completely unrelated to the owners.

Edited 8 hours ago by davulsukur

[Upside Down]

16 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

C/o New York Rovers on Twitter

The only thing that is any good for is the fire. 

Anything other than an absolutely scathing and brutal dissection of their tenure renders the rest of the book completely and utterly invalid.

[Salgados Hair]

'Over the past 15 years, VH Group has made a lasting impact on Blackburn..'

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/14575152.blackburn-rovers-store-town-centre-set-close/

[Parsonblue]

2 hours ago, Upside Down said:

No.

It's a complete fiction.

In reproduced minutes supposedly of the initial meeting for the Foundation of the club (the date of this meeting is also up for debate) it was suggested that this would be the uniform worn by players. This is a suggestion in a meeting. I could suggest in a fans forum meeting that venkys sell up and fuck off but that doesn't mean it actually happens.

Absolutely zero evidence to suggest the team ever played in those colours and everything to suggest we've always played in Blue and White halves (quarters). The fact that the founders took inspiration from their school that wore this same pattern, except swapping green for blue, suggests that it is far far more likely that the blue and white shirts are what we've always worn.

This white shirt bollocks is on a football shirt website and that's it. No other sources contemporary to the time make any mention of this because it never happened. 

There is no primary source ( or zero evidence, as you put it) to suggest that the club played in Blue & White during their first season.  There is a primary source, published by the club in 1909, that shows that the club passed a motion to play in white shirts with a blue Maltese cross.  This was proposed and seconded by founder members of the club.  By the time of the first known photograph (circa 1878/1879) they were in shirts which some players had white on the right hand side and some had white on the left hand side.

 

[Parsonblue]

57 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

The only thing that is any good for is the fire. 

Anything other than an absolutely scathing and brutal dissection of their tenure renders the rest of the book completely and utterly invalid.

The book records the history of the club.  How is the history of our club invalid?  

[RevidgeBlue]

14 minutes ago, Parsonblue said:

There is no primary source ( or zero evidence, as you put it) to suggest that the club played in Blue & White during their first season.  There is a primary source, published by the club in 1909, that shows that the club passed a motion to play in white shirts with a blue Maltese cross.  This was proposed and seconded by founder members of the club.  By the time of the first known photograph (circa 1878/1879) they were in shirts which some players had white on the right hand side and some had white on the left hand side.

 

Disagree on this Parson - whilst a motion may have been passed at some point that we should play in white shirts,  there's no evidence to say we actually did so, whether it be for a week, a month or a season.

Who's to say there wasn't a change of heart the following week? Either way by 1878 we were already in the recognisable blue and white halves, not just shirts with white in as you're making out above, so any period we did play in white for must have been so insignificant as to be virtually irrelevant.

"The choice of Club Colours also had its roots in the Public School background which so many of its members shared. Both of the Hargreaves brothers and Doc Greenwood were Old Malvernians and it was decided to copy their quartered shirt design, but to replace the traditional green with a Cambridge blue."

Blackburn Rovers - The Complete Record Mike Jackman 2009.

That information is logical and consistent. What was the original source for that assertion and why is it suddenly any less compelling than some minutes which seem to have subsequently come to light?

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5 hours ago, Salgados Hair said:

'Over the past 15 years, VH Group has made a lasting impact on Blackburn..'

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/14575152.blackburn-rovers-store-town-centre-set-close/

Well they aren't bloody wrong!