v Norwich City (h) - 30/8/25

[OnionBalaji]

Played 4 league games 

conceded a penalty in 50% of them

 

[DE.]

15 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

I get what you’re saying but we’ve all watched plenty of football and have eyes. Whilst we will all differ slightly on our views of players individual merits at a granular level it’s fairly obvious who is a good’un and who is a bad’un. 

How many of the new lads pass the eye test, honestly. I’d say Alebiousu alone of the ones who’ve played a few games and I’d stick my neck out on a 15 min cameo and say Morishito will be good, he looks like a quicker Ohashi. The rest are toilet, Ribeiro included, he’s Pickering without the ability to pass. 

At the moment I'll reserve judgement on most of them, but I'm not optimistic either. My concern is more that, even if some of them improve and the team gels into a more cohesive unit, we may still be fighting a losing battle if confidence is low and we've lost a lot of matches by the time that happens. We cannot afford to keep losing games whilst waiting for the team to gel. They have to start picking up results, and if they're incapable of doing so whilst adjusting, then we're going to be in huge trouble and it will have been a mistake from Suhail and Gestede to initiate such a destructive transition. 

[aletheia]

1 hour ago, Goozburger said:

and all the other rubbish that emerges after a defeat, tells me there is no patience in football these days.

Plenty of rubbish emerges after a win. Plenty of rubbish emerges (LET comments and elsewhere) after a new plan emerges.

As for patience -hmm, is 15 years enough?

[Penwortham Blue]

4 minutes ago, OnionBalaji said:

Played 4 league games 

conceded a penalty in 50% of them

 

And conceded 3 goals at home, in 90 + injury time.

[aletheia]

1 hour ago, Goozburger said:

The defeats hurt, but I can accept that the club is in a transitional state. It certainly sounds like the Travis situation was dropped on us very quickly, and these players will need time to gel. Surely that's not an unreasonable point of view.

Of course they will. Could you tell us how long that is?

[alcd]

37 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

a day of frustration. 

First half, far too misplaced passes or making their wrong decision. We didn't press enough. Norwich had several chances to score and poor finishing from them yet meaning it nil nil until the penalty incident. It was a penalty and McLoughlin was rightly sent off. It does spoil the game but the rules are the rules. We still created chances or got into good areas but that final pass was poor. 

Second Half, we were much better, press better, got Cantwell more involved. We created 2 great chances an we should have scored both. cost us the game. Their second goal killed the game. 

Cantwell second half was my man of the match. Get more involved and influence the game.  But Alebiosu overall the game was my man of the match. 

Plenty of effort from the players. Karbgo need developing, Gueye needs to learn the offside rule.

The ref was very annoying second half were inconsistent decisions. Favour Norwich too much and his relucent to take actions against their time wasting 

Lets see what the next 48 hours happens transfer wise 

Noting transformational that's for certain. Midfield is desperately poor and will be even worse if anything happens to Tronstad .

[Kjell]

59 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Me neither.

Very cold fish.

It’s even more than just being cold; there’s something off about the whole guy. People can believe Brittain and Travis (and the rest) only left because they were offered more money elsewhere, but the fact that Pasha, Rudy, and Val are running things is, in my view, just as relevant—if not the real reason. 

And what leaders do we even have in the squad now? Who’s going to step up and lift the others when we’re sitting on a handful of points in January and sinking into the relegation zone? The players we’ve brought in are well below the standard of what Championship clubs usually sign (let alone a club that’s finished 7th in two of the last three seasons). They’re just thankful for the opportunity and willing to put up with the current state of the club.

As for today’s match? Listening to the RoversTV interview is absurd. That first half was every bit as bad as the lowest points under Ismael.

[Penwortham Blue]

Had anything at all been said as to when Baradji is likely to be on the pitch 🤷‍♂️

[alcd]

18 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He's a confidence player that needs time on the pitch.

Relegating him to 5 minutes here, 10 minutes there is doing him absolutely no favours. 

He's even more useless when he starts. A yellow or ed card waiting to happen.

[alcd]

3 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Had anything at all been said as to when Baradji is likely to be on the pitch 🤷‍♂️

Having known 6 weeks ago that he has some injury, Ismael says they are going "to assess" this week whether he needs surgery! You couldn't make it up.

[Old Codger]

59 minutes ago, arbitro said:

One incident summed Kargbo up today for me. In the first half on our right side Norwich were going forward and Ribiero went to the ball but Chrisene was going on the overlap. Kargbo was drawn to the ball instead of going with the runner that was Chrisene (who was Kargbo's man anyway) and he got in behind. Ribiero tried to point this out but Kargbo was having none of it. It took Hyam to come over and explain to Kargbo.

It's difficult to put some football intelligence into players but it can be done. Alas in Kargbo's case I think it will be a forlorn hope. He is essentially a one trick pony in my opinion.

 

He is Alex Da Costa reincarnated, FFS.

[alcd]

16 minutes ago, DE. said:

At the moment I'll reserve judgement on most of them, but I'm not optimistic either. My concern is more that, even if some of them improve and the team gels into a more cohesive unit, we may still be fighting a losing battle if confidence is low and we've lost a lot of matches by the time that happens. We cannot afford to keep losing games whilst waiting for the team to gel. They have to start picking up results, and if they're incapable of doing so whilst adjusting, then we're going to be in huge trouble and it will have been a mistake from Suhail and Gestede to initiate such a destructive transition. 

Not a mistake. A strategy to downgrade the club to fit into L1 and cut the losses by doing so. 

[cesus]

1 hour ago, arbitro said:

One incident summed Kargbo up today for me. In the first half on our right side Norwich were going forward and Ribiero went to the ball but Chrisene was going on the overlap. Kargbo was drawn to the ball instead of going with the runner that was Chrisene (who was Kargbo's man anyway) and he got in behind. Ribiero tried to point this out but Kargbo was having none of it. It took Hyam to come over and explain to Kargbo.

It's difficult to put some football intelligence into players but it can be done. Alas in Kargbo's case I think it will be a forlorn hope. He is essentially a one trick pony in my opinion.

 

I've said it for years on here, the reason that Ryan Hedges has played for this club for years under many managers is that he can read a game. His skill set leaves a lot to be desired, but he doesn't look out of depth working with a full back.

[BlackburnEnd75]

1 hour ago, den said:

I hate saying it but the club is rotten to the core. The owners, through the “directors”  to Gestede, not one of them should be here. In fact, neither should many of the players. 
The whole ship needs rebuilding.

The usual suspects come out and start questioning the manager.

Not defending or attacking VI but why dont some fans spend half as much time questioning the man who hired VI if you think he's the main problem and assembled the previous squad and out together this squad or suhail who has consistently worsened this club.

[DE.]

5 minutes ago, alcd said:

Not a mistake. A strategy to downgrade the club to fit into L1 and cut the losses by doing so. 

I think they're genuinely convinced they can continue to slash costs and stay in the division. False confidence brought about by JDT & Eustace performing miracles with a squad that was continually being downgraded (albeit the wheels fell off for JDT towards the end).

Their 'strategy' was only ever one managerial change away from disaster, and we may be there. Neither JDT nor Eustace were willing to see the core of the team replaced by cheap, unknown alternatives, knowing the consequences, and so both ultimately found a way out. Ismael is seemingly on board with it, and I can only see it ending one way.  

[Neal]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

How peevish can you get when you COULD show it but you're limiting consumption to those who have been fleeced £15 per head for it in Jack's Kitchen?

You can see the logic in one way as if you'd paid extra you'd be fuming if people were watching it for free in Blue's but I just find the whole thing Absolutely disgusting.

Just fucking pathetic. How do they not see that this will just cost them money as people will just go to pubs showing games instead? Dickheads. 

[London blue]

6 minutes ago, DE. said:

I think they're genuinely convinced they can continue to slash costs and stay in the division. False confidence brought about by JDT & Eustace performing miracles with a squad that was continually being downgraded (albeit the wheels fell off for JDT towards the end).

Their 'strategy' was only ever one managerial change away from disaster, and we may be there. Neither JDT nor Eustace were willing to see the core of the team replaced by cheap, unknown alternatives, knowing the consequences, and so both ultimately found a way out. Ismael is seemingly on board with it, and I can only see it ending one way.  

This is as succinct a summary of the disaster I think we're currently staring in the face as I can imagine.

[Penwortham Blue]

26 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Had anything at all been said as to when Baradji is likely to be on the pitch 🤷‍♂️

 

21 minutes ago, alcd said:

Having known 6 weeks ago that he has some injury, Ismael says they are going "to assess" this week whether he needs surgery! You couldn't make it up.

Unbelievable!

[Hasta]

12 minutes ago, BlackburnEnd75 said:

The usual suspects come out and start questioning the manager.

Not defending or attacking VI but why dont some fans spend half as much time questioning the man who hired VI if you think he's the main problem and assembled the previous squad and out together this squad or suhail who has consistently worsened this club.

To be fair Suhail gets far more stick on here than VI, probably because we didn’t expect much from VI based on his record and reputation when we employed him.

[J*B]

11 minutes ago, Neal said:

Just fucking pathetic. How do they not see that this will just cost them money as people will just go to pubs showing games instead? Dickheads. 

They’ll close it. Another cost reduced. 

[DeeCee]

High/lowlights on TV now. I'm out 😕 

Until tomorrow 🤦‍♂️

[rigger]

1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He's a confidence player that needs time on the pitch.

Relegating him to 5 minutes here, 10 minutes there is doing him absolutely no favours. 

The problem is , in his five to ten minutes here and there he has done fuck-all. Today the only person he put under pressure was the linesman who must have had  cramp , keep flagging him off-side.

[roverblue]

51 minutes ago, cesus said:

I've said it for years on here, the reason that Ryan Hedges has played for this club for years under many managers is that he can read a game. His skill set leaves a lot to be desired, but he doesn't look out of depth working with a full back.

Hedges set the standard for effort and hunger today, the lad chased down everything and drove forward every time he had the ball. Shame none of the others followed his example!

[Leonard Venkhater]

44 minutes ago, London blue said:

This is as succinct a summary of the disaster I think we're currently staring in the face as I can imagine.

Unforgivable.....yet so many supporters continue to give them a pass.

So depressing!

[M_B]

17 minutes ago, roverblue said:

Hedges set the standard for effort and hunger today, the lad chased down everything and drove forward every time he had the ball. Shame none of the others followed his example!

Thought he was just pipped by Tronstad to be honest, who was absolutely everywhere.