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Posted
14 minutes ago, lraC said:

It doesn’t mean it was right though. How would you feel if one of the players got seriously injured, due to the conditions? It’s more important to ensure that everyone remains safe, than competing a match in a pitch, that had become dangerous. 

All ifs again. They played 80 mins on it and the rest of the game should have played. Nothing more to add. We played on worst pitches like Portsmouth home game 2017. 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

All ifs again. They played 80 mins on it and the rest of the game should have played. Nothing more to add. We played on worst pitches like Portsmouth home game 2017. 

That’s why we have risk assessments in society. If something is deemed dangerous, then suitably qualified people, make the call, to stop people like you coming along and tearing them a new one, for not eliminating the risk. 
if you can’t see that things have evolved since 2017 and lessons have been learned, fine, but that’s what has happened and I would rather rely on the professionals to make these important decisions that could be life changing for people. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Totally stand by my original points on the game being called off and it should have carried on. 

McKenna got what he wanted and its a shame that the ref bottled it again given what we seen regular with poor standing of referring at all levels. 

Any replay game will favour Ipswich much more again given we were leading 1 nil and 11 players vs their 10. 

Personally Rovers should be given the win by the EFL board but they won't. Ipswich and McKenna knew that a game being called out would suit them. 

 

 

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

We played in much worse condition. Portsmouth at home 2017 for example. 

Ipswich got what they wanted and Rovers got screwed again

You are clearly incapable of looking beyond your bias because obviously we are frustrated that the game was called off.

You are manifesting a situation whereby McKenna has managed to force the referee to stop a game that could have been played. 

You also keep manifesting a situation where all of our players are injured for the replayed game and suggest that people would change their mind if that was the case. Its all irrelevant to the decision that had to be made.

The game couldnt be continued, it is as simple as that. 5 yard passes were stopping in the water. The ball couldnt bounce on the pitch. Players couldnt run forward with the ball, Clarke tried to do so and was essentially tackled by standing water. This narrative of being "screwed" and the way you are talking is just you allowing your petulance to convince yourself that they could continue on a pitch like that. They clearly couldnt.

If you want to be angry at someone beyond the weather, direct it at the owners and Suhail for failing to fund the work required to upgrade the drainage on the pitch.

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Posted
55 minutes ago, B16Rover said:

Let's lighten the mood.  Who can complete the 'match abandoned' 11? 

 

Jordan Pitchflood in goal 

Danny Hose left back 

 

John Canoe up front 

Clint Dampsey playing just behind 

Riverdo bringing Brazilian flair 

Diego Armbando Maradona??..

🤔

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

 

You are clearly incapable of looking beyond your bias because obviously we are frustrated that the game was called off.

You are manifesting a situation whereby McKenna has managed to force the referee to stop a game that could have been played. 

You also keep manifesting a situation where all of our players are injured for the replayed game and suggest that people would change their mind if that was the case. Its all irrelevant to the decision that had to be made.

The game couldnt be continued, it is as simple as that. 5 yard passes were stopping in the water. The ball couldnt bounce on the pitch. Players couldnt run forward with the ball, Clarke tried to do so and was essentially tackled by standing water. This narrative of being "screwed" and the way you are talking is just you allowing your petulance to convince yourself that they could continue on a pitch like that. They clearly couldnt.

If you want to be angry at someone beyond the weather, direct it at the owners and Suhail for failing to fund the work required to upgrade the drainage on the pitch.

I thought what the ref did when he came back on with his linemen was a bit of a joke. At least they could have tried passing the ball between themselves a couple of times. The end result would have been the same but they would have had a bit more credibility.

Posted
1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I thought what the ref did when he came back on with his linemen was a bit of a joke. At least they could have tried passing the ball between themselves a couple of times. The end result would have been the same but they would have had a bit more credibility.

It was a waste of time and seemingly just for show. The pitch was obviously unplayable.

Posted
5 hours ago, lraC said:

One thing I would say on this, promotion and relegation was decided on an incomplete season during the Covid season, in two of the EFL leagues. This is 10 minutes of a game, where we had a huge advantage with a man up and a goal up, so logic says, award us the game. 

That was a unique situation where there was no possibility to complete the season.

Logic only says that if we are Rovers fans. Id take that but it wouldnt be fair.

10 hours ago, bluebruce said:

And utterly ignores that we already played 80 minutes of the game and almost had it in the bag with a man and a goal advantage. As I say, finishing the game is the fairest option. The least fair is to punish the team who had worked hard to be in the lead and reward the team who had very likely fucked the game up, and to replay 90 minutes for the sake of 10.

But we didnt have it in the bag. There was 10 minutes plus some injury time so as much as I would happily take a win, it wouldnt be fair to do so.

Basing a result on an incomplete match would be the least fair way. Any other way would at least put the game back in the hands of the 2 teams.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I thought what the ref did when he came back on with his linemen was a bit of a joke. At least they could have tried passing the ball between themselves a couple of times. The end result would have been the same but they would have had a bit more credibility.

Didn't need anymore proof really other that the two plays that finally stopped the game. 

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Posted
33 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

All ifs again. They played 80 mins on it and the rest of the game should have played. Nothing more to add. We played on worst pitches like Portsmouth home game 2017. 

We played matches without the need for defibrillators at one point too, but several players are living proof, that this needed to change too and of course did.

Hard to believe that any football fan, is prepared to argue that they safety of the players, is not of more importance than finishing a game. 
 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, RoyWegerlesLeftToe said:

The abandonment has made me forget the tavares pre-game injury debacle...at least this has given us something to collectively moan about that isn't transfer business related 😂

What actually happened ? Did he pull a muscle lacing his boots up ?

Posted

Not directly related but odd. At half time Ipswich subs warmed up in wrong half of pitch and our groundsman was visably unhappy. Saw him pointing from here to there. This was in the exact same spot the ref & his assist did their ball testing. 

Was this deliberate to a soggy pitch area?? Anyone else see this? 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, lraC said:

We played matches without the need for defibrillators at one point too, but several players are living proof, that this needed to change too and of course did.

Hard to believe that any football fan, is prepared to argue that they safety of the players, is not of more importance than finishing a game. 
 

stretching your arguments to extreme lengths to prove your own opinion. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Penwortham Blue said:

The rules don’t indicate that, they give the EFL full flexibility to award the points, replay in full or part. Sadly, I know what my money is on and that simply isn’t fair, the only equitable decision would be take the match and complete from the point that it was abandoned.

But even that isn’t completely fair…there are numerous scenarios that could see one team having players out injured/suspended that were available yesterday &/or vice versa. 

If it’s replayed in January, Rovers might even have signed a whole new XI by then…👀 

Posted
5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

stretching your arguments to extreme lengths to prove your own opinion. 

chaddy - if it had been the other way round you'd have been delighted with the abandonment and would be hailing it as exactly the correct call.

You're just gutted that it was not possible to complete the last ten minutes of the game which is understandable, but to then call out other posters for having the correct opinion because you're disappointed is very poor form.

The only question now is, does the underlying problem get sorted or do we have to witness the same sort of scenario again and again?

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Posted
10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

stretching your arguments to extreme lengths to prove your own opinion. 

Not at all, the pitch was dangerous in the opinion of the match officials, so the match was stopped, so it’s a decision that I can accept, even though it might cost Rovers. Sadly you can’t and of course you rarely back down, even when the consensus of your fellow supporters, seem to indicate you have this one wrong. 

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Posted

We have 3 midweeks available before Christmas to fit the game in.

W/c 27th October

W/c 1st  December 

W/c 15th December 

Think there is some odd rule, although not 100%, that it needs to be completed before the return fixture in January.

Posted
12 hours ago, Parsonblue said:

What's the rivers like next to their ground?  It's been a while since I was last on Chorley but I don't recall it being in a similar situation to Ewood. Unfortunately, and it doesn't happen that often, when the river is in its present state there is not much you can do.  To do anything about the river it would require the Environment agency to get involved and that would be a long drawn out process.    

I remember games being played in a sea of mud in the sixties but we still had abandonments and postponements.  The pitch has improved beyond recognition to those days but the torrential rain we had today was always going to be a challenge.  

In fairness, the ref was in a difficult situation as conditions got steadily worse during the second half.

Driving home from Ewood, the roads were none too clever either.

As for the game itself, it was another encouraging performance on the back of the good result and performance at Watford.

 

There are no rivers anywhere near Victory Park, so a completely different situation.

There were two other similar incidents in the region yesterday. AFC Fylde's game at home to Leamington was abandoned as was Southport's game against Peterborough Sports. I don't know at what time the games were abandoned but at Fylde they went 4-0 up in the 59th minute and Peterborough pulled the score back to 2-1 in the 62nd. Neither ground has any issues with nearby rivers and Haig Avenue is pretty much literally built on sand. Southport's website says that the game will be rearranged but Fylde's has a similar message to Rovers. Of course the National League is a different jurisdiction.

Parsonblue is right that there can be no major works to alleviate the drainage situation done at Ewood without the approval of the Environment Agency and any agreed solution would I imagine cost in the millions and take a long time.

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Posted (edited)
47 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

 

You are clearly incapable of looking beyond your bias because obviously we are frustrated that the game was called off.

You are manifesting a situation whereby McKenna has managed to force the referee to stop a game that could have been played. 

You also keep manifesting a situation where all of our players are injured for the replayed game and suggest that people would change their mind if that was the case. Its all irrelevant to the decision that had to be made.

The game couldnt be continued, it is as simple as that. 5 yard passes were stopping in the water. The ball couldnt bounce on the pitch. Players couldnt run forward with the ball, Clarke tried to do so and was essentially tackled by standing water. This narrative of being "screwed" and the way you are talking is just you allowing your petulance to convince yourself that they could continue on a pitch like that. They clearly couldnt.

If you want to be angry at someone beyond the weather, direct it at the owners and Suhail for failing to fund the work required to upgrade the drainage on the pitch.

Bias? my opinion has been constant from the end of the game. My original opinion I stand by, not much to really add to it. 

McKenna wasn't happy and you aren't trying to tell you wasn't making it know about the pitch given that his team were playing poor, losing 1 nil and down to 10 men, plus given his post match comments and the celebration with their fans after the game called off, he got exactly what he and they wanted. 

No I have suggestion a possible situation which you ignored competently in any of your post that the game which will be in a few weeks time, could mean we have injury or 2 to some of our players who started yesterday and played so well. 

on your last point I would suggested you read ParsonBlue and Only2Garners posts about the work that would be required and it would need Environment agency and possible the councils involve in finding a properly overall situation. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

could mean we have injury or 2 to some of our players who started yesterday and played so well. 

 

Just incredibly bad luck unfortunately.

Time to act like a grown up and accept that it's the correct call and that players safety has to come first, from someone who was on the pitch and not sitting in a covered stand.

Even our ex pro ref on here said it was the correct call.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

chaddy - if it had been the other way round you'd have been delighted with the abandonment and would be hailing it as exactly the correct call.

You're just gutted that it was not possible to complete the last ten minutes of the game which is understandable, but to then call out other posters for having the correct opinion because you're disappointed is very poor form.

The only question now is, does the underlying problem get sorted or do we have to witness the same sort of scenario again and again?

Already answered this bloody question Rev, just get on with the rest of the game and play on. 

7 minutes ago, lraC said:

Not at all, the pitch was dangerous in the opinion of the match officials, so the match was stopped, so it’s a decision that I can accept, even though it might cost Rovers. Sadly you can’t and of course you rarely back down, even when the consensus of your fellow supporters, seem to indicate you have this one wrong. 

I've got nothing to add to my original opinion which I stand by. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

All ifs again. They played 80 mins on it and the rest of the game should have played. Nothing more to add. We played on worst pitches like Portsmouth home game 2017. 

Your own video evidence you posted proves that this is simply not true. But carry on dying on this hill. This is a true paragon of Chaddyism.

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