KentExile Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: It looks like Venkys were totally clueless owners who made a mess of everything they've tried and had no idea how to rebuild it. So then decided to go the managed decline route and reduce the club and its expectations to a level they are capable of running. We obviously haven't even reached that level of capability yet. I dread to think where that level may be I am not sure such a level exists Before someone points out that they built a successful business they didn't, their parents did. The idiots who own Rovers, are entitled muppets who inherited that business Edited 23 hours ago by KentExile 6 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Man Utd now in the race to sign Igor Tyjon. Quote
Penwortham Blue Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 15 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Man Utd now in the race to sign Igor Tyjon. If he was any good, he would have made the breakthrough into our first team, irrespective of his contract situation. My bet is that if he makes a move to a big club, he will never get a game in their first team. Notwithstanding that, the contract will no doubt set him up for life and so not sure that we can blame him, more especially given current state of our club ! 8 Quote
Hasta Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said: If he was any good, he would have made the breakthrough into our first team, irrespective of his contract situation. My bet is that if he makes a move to a big club, he will never get a game in their first team. Notwithstanding that, the contract will no doubt set him up for life and so not sure that we can blame him, more especially given current state of our club ! I’m not sure he’s that good, but I’m also adamant if he was under contract longer he would have featured at some point instead of Henriksson and Diamini up front. If we did go down it would be more mismanagement. 1 Quote
Popular Post 47er Posted 20 hours ago Popular Post Posted 20 hours ago 3 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: I actually saw some comments from other clubs fans on a Rovers article recently and one of them - think it was an Arsenal fan actually - said.. It looks like Venkys were totally clueless owners who made a mess of everything they've tried and had no idea how to rebuild it. So then decided to go the managed decline route and reduce the club and its expectations to a level they are capable of running. We obviously haven't even reached that level of capability yet. He's more aware than plenty of our own fans. 14 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 3 hours ago, KentExile said: I dread to think where that level may be I am not sure such a level exists Before someone points out that they built a successful business they didn't, their parents did. The idiots who own Rovers, are entitled muppets who inherited that business Yet half our own fanbase remain oblivious to or just shrug the shoulders 'well if everyone turned up every week..' type stuff. Well they did didn't they for the first few years of this bollocks and it didn't make a jot of difference. 1 Quote
Popular Post simongarnerisgod Posted 19 hours ago Popular Post Posted 19 hours ago if you get rid of players because you won`t pay them the going rate then replace them with ones who arn`t as good ,you will go down the leagues,it matters not if the crowd is 30000 or 300,i can`t understand why some of our fans can`t see the fact that venkys have continually dismanted the playing staff from the moment they arrived 12 Quote
Popular Post Tomphil2 Posted 19 hours ago Popular Post Posted 19 hours ago 2 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: if you get rid of players because you won`t pay them the going rate then replace them with ones who arn`t as good ,you will go down the leagues,it matters not if the crowd is 30000 or 300,i can`t understand why some of our fans can`t see the fact that venkys have continually dismanted the playing staff from the moment they arrived They remain convinced that big crowds under this lot would automatically mean better players, wages payable and form. Somehow they chose to miss the rather obvious correlation that wages cuts,player sales, doubling of losses and managed decline began the min they took over with gates of 25k and Prem/Parachute income. Ok a lot are too young to remember or maybe grasp these very basic facts but the others ... ? They are in their own world of denial for some reason. 14 Quote
Upside Down Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 5 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: Yet half our own fanbase remain oblivious to or just shrug the shoulders 'well if everyone turned up every week..' type stuff. Well they did didn't they for the first few years of this bollocks and it didn't make a jot of difference. That's not half of the fanbase, it's a quarter at the most. The majority have washed their hands of this ridiculous charade many years ago. 3 Quote
Gamst Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Sunday update from Nicko…we are supposedly making a profit on Gueye and we have money to spend on attackers. The issue seemingly is that we are reluctant to pay them. 1 Quote
davulsukur Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Gamst said: Sunday update from Nicko…we are supposedly making a profit on Gueye and we have money to spend on attackers. The issue seemingly is that we are reluctant to pay them. Rovers in being useless shocker. 3 Quote
islander200 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Nixon saying we have money to bring a couple in but wages are an issue as venkys are reluctant to pay decent wages. He Said the Chinese club paying £1.8 million for Gueye but that Gueye Is only on 5 grand a week here so shifting his wages won't help to much in bringing others in Small bit about us possibly bidding again for Bailey Cadamateri again Quote
B16Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Apologies as I am not a football financier. Just because Gueye was on 5k a week, doesn't mean we can't use some of the transfer fee (equivalent to 34k a week) to sign a proper striker Quote
JHRover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Standard transfer window then. Big talk at the start, no problems shipping people out to bring in money, but unable to bring people in due to Venky constraints. Ismael's first targets missed, 3 players in by the Hull game, business done early. Managed one easy loan. Anyone surprised? 8 Quote
islander200 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, B16Rover said: Apologies as I am not a football financier. Just because Gueye was on 5k a week, doesn't mean we can't use some of the transfer fee (equivalent to 34k a week) to sign a proper striker It doesn't but Venkys are seemingly unwilling to do that Quote
rigger Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, JHRover said: Standard transfer window then. Big talk at the start, no problems shipping people out to bring in money, but unable to bring people in due to Venky constraints. Ismael's first targets missed, 3 players in by the Hull game, business done early. Managed one easy loan. Anyone surprised? Ismael ? Quote
ROVER_N_OUT1978 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Cadamarteri posted a pic with his dad at an airport so possibly on way to Hibs? Quote
B16Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, ROVER_N_OUT1978 said: Cadamarteri posted a pic with his dad at an airport so possibly on way to Hibs? I wouldn't discount us, given lack of investment in Northern rail. Quote
Old Codger Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago He might be taking a helicopter to Old Langho... Quote
KentExile Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, ROVER_N_OUT1978 said: Cadamarteri posted a pic with his dad at an airport so possibly on way to Hibs? Hibs offer fees & wages that even current day Rovers can beat, should they chose to Miller didn't come here for the same wage, or less than he was on there Edited 7 hours ago by KentExile 2 Quote
RoversXtra Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 11 minutes ago, B16Rover said: Apologies as I am not a football financier. Just because Gueye was on 5k a week, doesn't mean we can't use some of the transfer fee (equivalent to 34k a week) to sign a proper striker Tell them that, but no chance that happens. We should use the 800k profit we got on wages but this is not how this football club works. Idk who said it but apparently we want to keep the wages under 10k for each player since the summer that just went 3 Quote
Popular Post TugaysMarlboro Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago 17 minutes ago, islander200 said: Nixon saying we have money to bring a couple in but wages are an issue as venkys are reluctant to pay decent wages. He Said the Chinese club paying £1.8 million for Gueye but that Gueye Is only on 5 grand a week here so shifting his wages won't help to much in bringing others in Small bit about us possibly bidding again for Bailey Cadamateri again This will see us relegated and slide down the leagues. If we're offering wages lower or the same as we were 3-4 years ago , the quality of players we'll attract will drop. It's also likely to be more cost effective to up a current players wage rather than having to find a replacement in the transfer market considering there's so many additional costs the headline fee doesn't take into account. 11 1 Quote
Popular Post G Somerset Rover Posted 6 hours ago Popular Post Posted 6 hours ago This self imposed wage structure is the chief reason we’ve been bringing in absolute wasters from abroad. We’ll struggle to get anyone remotely half decent from this country. 17 Quote
KentExile Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, G Somerset Rover said: This self imposed wage structure is the chief reason we’ve been bringing in absolute wasters from abroad. We’ll struggle to get anyone remotely half decent from this country. unless its a loan for a "promising youngster" where we essentially guarantee that they will play regardless of performances Edited 6 hours ago by KentExile Quote
47er Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Gamst said: Sunday update from Nicko…we are supposedly making a profit on Gueye and we have money to spend on attackers. The issue seemingly is that we are reluctant to pay them. They want paying? The bastards! 6 Quote
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