v Preston North End (a) - 21/11/25, 8:00pm ko Sky TV

[Mercer]

42 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Medical team being so poor? Who is poor from the staff? 

Who is good from the staff!?!?

 

[GHR]

2 hours ago, TheKitGuy said:

Absolutely something is up - could it even be the case of x amount of games played = % inc. to wage? hence he is being frozen out?

Didn't we have that with Mulgrew and him being stuck on 99 appearances for ages? He made his 100th in the end and as I recall looked absolutely shot at, which might have been why!

[RevidgeBlue]

7 minutes ago, GHR said:

Didn't we have that with Mulgrew and him being stuck on 99 appearances for ages? He made his 100th in the end and as I recall looked absolutely shot at, which might have been why!

For conspiracy theory purposes he'd appear to be on 47 appearances in all Comps according to Wikipedia.

 

 

[London blue]

3 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Pass the tinfoil hats out.

He's clearly picked up a knock. The problem being our medical team is so poor that they're unable to diagnose it - or worse still they have diagnosed it and don't want to share it with the fans because it's a bad knee injury.

I don't want to be cruel but have you not been paying attention?

Of course it's possible he's got a knock and it's gotten worse. It's also incredibly plausible that he's been frozen out or there's been some kind of agreement.

[JamieUK]

On the 1st November, Cantwell posted an Instagram/Facebook story of a photo of him walking on the beach with the caption "The next step is always the most important one". Sounds like he's planning something.

[islander200]

46 minutes ago, London blue said:

I don't want to be cruel but have you not been paying attention?

Of course it's possible he's got a knock and it's gotten worse. It's also incredibly plausible that he's been frozen out or there's been some kind of agreement.

Why give him the captaincy in the first place if he was x amount of games away from hitting some target where his money goes up?

Not playing isn't going to get Cantwell a transfer that he wants. He ended up here because there wasn't anyone else in for him and he didn't pull up any trees last season.

He had started this season well and if he carried that form on then yeah an attractive move may open up for him 

[London blue]

I don't claim to understand the motives of the people that run this club.

Nonsensical decisions are commonplace. Making him captain then forcing him out would not surprise me in the slightest.

[Tomphil2]

It's simple just come clean on his injury and there won't be as many wild theories.

[Upside Down]

6 hours ago, StHelensRover said:

I wouldn't say it's quite 'tinfoil hat' to worry that one of our best players is looking to leave the club, when several other senior players jumped ship as quickly as they could several months ago. I also think it's more likely than the idea of professional doctors and physios not knowing how to diagnose an injury.

Also when there's a long history of players being frozen out of the squad due to their wages and not having the right agent.

[Elrovers]

3 hours ago, JamieUK said:

On the 1st November, Cantwell posted an Instagram/Facebook story of a photo of him walking on the beach with the caption "The next step is always the most important one". Sounds like he's planning something.

Nah doesn’t mean anything that. He usually posts stuff like that anyway. Please stop overthinking it lol. 

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, London blue said:

I don't claim to understand the motives of the people that run this club.

Nonsensical decisions are commonplace. Making him captain then forcing him out would not surprise me in the slightest.

Exactly.

I'm not sure why some people find the possibility that:

the bean counters might want him off the wage bill and we've therefore come to an agreement with his advisors that he can leave in January

is such a fanciful idea.

A "kick on the knee" doesn't take months to heal. The best case scenario is that we've misdiagnosed the severity of his injury in which case his camp wouldn't be happy with us anyway.

[USABlue]

11 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

😉

Regarding Baradji don't be so bloody impatient man! There's still 37 days until Christmas yet FFS! what on earth do you expect!

As far as Cantwell is concerned gut reaction dictates we won't see him in a Rovers shirt again, there feels something extremely off about both situations.

Yes I suppose I am being unreasonable expecting a player we signed to actually play for us.  As for TC I really rhought he would have been sold in the past summer window.  Are we cotton wooling him till January, never know with these loons

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9 hours ago, London blue said:

I don't want to be cruel but have you not been paying attention?

Of course it's possible he's got a knock and it's gotten worse. It's also incredibly plausible that he's been frozen out or there's been some kind of agreement.

Normally clubs update on players we've heard fk all about Cantwell. Very suss

[danger19_80]

12 hours ago, JamieUK said:

On the 1st November, Cantwell posted an Instagram/Facebook story of a photo of him walking on the beach with the caption "The next step is always the most important one". Sounds like he's planning something.

A Live, Laugh, Love picture in his kitchen by the sounds of it

[47er]

9 hours ago, Elrovers said:

Nah doesn’t mean anything that. He usually posts stuff like that anyway. Please stop overthinking it lol. 

Nobody would contemplate conspiracy theories if our owners and admin weren't such liars.

 

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15 hours ago, Mercer said:

Who is good from the staff!?!?

 

Doris the tea lady

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About 60 or so seats left now

[JHRover]

I'd be surprised if Cantwell was here beyond January to be honest.

We've seen first hand over years now what the people running the club are all about and what their priorities are. 

Cantwell in no way shape or form fits the 'model' they are imposing and that's before we speculate as to his wage, which is rumoured to be substantial.

No way on earth they are renewing or improving a big earner contract so they'll be looking at him, half way through his deal, and the question will be is January or the summer the time to sell?

It staggers me that some people still seem to think this sort of thing isn't happening and that there's no way there could be more to it than meets the eye. 

There's been more than meets the eye on most of the departures over the last few years. Tends to be when it's the club and those running it trying to force people out to achieve their own agendas.

[MarkBRFC]

12 hours ago, islander200 said:

Why give him the captaincy in the first place if he was x amount of games away from hitting some target where his money goes up?

Knowing this regime, I think it's something as simple as they didn't know back in the summer and all of a sudden in the last 6 weeks or so somebody has cottoned on that we're coming close to this being an issue.

All too familiar with things like that happening here.

Edited 1 hour ago by MarkBRFC

[KentExile]

15 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

For conspiracy theory purposes he'd appear to be on 47 appearances in all Comps according to Wikipedia.

 

 

or 44 league appearances

Either way, 50 sounds like a potential trigger number, if one exists of course

[KentExile]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

I'd be surprised if Cantwell was here beyond January to be honest.

We've seen first hand over years now what the people running the club are all about and what their priorities are. 

Cantwell in no way shape or form fits the 'model' they are imposing and that's before we speculate as to his wage, which is rumoured to be substantial.

No way on earth they are renewing or improving a big earner contract so they'll be looking at him, half way through his deal, and the question will be is January or the summer the time to sell?

It staggers me that some people still seem to think this sort of thing isn't happening and that there's no way there could be more to it than meets the eye. 

There's been more than meets the eye on most of the departures over the last few years. Tends to be when it's the club and those running it trying to force people out to achieve their own agendas.

No matter how substantial (or as is more likely, unsubstantial) Cantwells wage is in comparison to wages at other Championship clubs, he will be Rovers highest earner, and probably by some distance

Agree, we will not renew his contract, and are waiting for the most opportune moment to sell

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if based on his early season form, someone has already done a deal with both him and Rovers for him to move in January, and as part of the agreement, Rovers have agreed not to to play him so he doesn't get injured

Edited 1 hour ago by KentExile

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

In the middle of a relegation battle and possibly looking at offloading one of our best Players?

Its a fookin madhouse.

[KidderStreetNoise]

17 minutes ago, KentExile said:

or 44 league appearances

Either way, 50 sounds like a potential trigger number, if one exists of course

Could be a payment to Rangers after so many appearances

[JHRover]

9 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

In the middle of a relegation battle and possibly looking at offloading one of our best Players?

Its a fookin madhouse.

Yep but from their point of view it is nearly transfer window time and all that means is another opportunity to raise a few quid, earn bonuses and get the wage bill reduced.

Top of the tree there is Cantwell. Probably top earner and likely to fetch a couple of million with 18 months left on his deal. 

The gangsters running the club will be salivating at the prospect of getting him out the door in the next 8 weeks and in one move meet their target.

Reference to relegation suggests that league position/status is a measure of performance here, there's no evidence that anyone from ownership down has ever had any interest in league positions. 

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

I'd be surprised if Cantwell was here beyond January to be honest.

We've seen first hand over years now what the people running the club are all about and what their priorities are. 

Cantwell in no way shape or form fits the 'model' they are imposing and that's before we speculate as to his wage, which is rumoured to be substantial.

No way on earth they are renewing or improving a big earner contract so they'll be looking at him, half way through his deal, and the question will be is January or the summer the time to sell?

It staggers me that some people still seem to think this sort of thing isn't happening and that there's no way there could be more to it than meets the eye. 

There's been more than meets the eye on most of the departures over the last few years. Tends to be when it's the club and those running it trying to force people out to achieve their own agendas.

Regardless of any potential clauses, appearance triggers or anything like that, he must be our highest earner and the club will absolutely not be standing in his way if there is a chance to get him off the books. 

As you say, these types of situations have been consistent with the current ownership and it would not surprise me in the slightest if they have undermined the manager and told Cantwell to seek pastures new for the January window, to get him off the books.