v Ipswich Town (h) - 02/12/25

[Penwortham Blue]

31 minutes ago, KidderStreetNoise said:

If he was 2 or 3 yards clear, what fouled him?

Good spot, 2/3 foot and and now amended.

[joey_big_nose]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

But we continue to show an inability to avoid conceding late goals and a number of the signings brought in by Gestede and endorsed by Ismael are coming on and really causing us problems because they are nowhere near the level.

Supposedly "deserving" 3 points and not getting 3 points is not a good sign.

In the spirit of fairness we had a lot of Gestede era signings out there who played well (Alebiosu, McCloughlin, Miller, TGH, Gudjohnsen, Mori, Forshaw).

[Penwortham Blue]

15 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

De Neve is cheaper, that's all there is to it.

 

The last 90+ minute winner in front of fans was November 2019, against Sheffield Wednesday at Ewood.

Sadly, that tells a story. I wonder how many last minute winners we have conceded during the intervening period, a lot is my recollection🙈

[MarkBRFC]

6 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Sadly, that tells a story. I wonder how many last minute winners we have conceded during the intervening period, a lot is my recollection🙈

In the same period since we scored a last minute winner in front of fans, we have conceded 10 last minute winners to lose games.

I thought it might have been more to be fair, although we have conceded plenty of last minute equalisers too.

[rovers11]

VI simply has to stop putting on Gueye and De Neve. They are game changers - just in a negative way.

Gueye should be fined for his performance last night. I can forgive him for a lack of talent but not for his complete lack of effort. He refused to run around, chase the ball, and make himself a nuisance. Totally unacceptable.

As for De Neve, no lack of effort but just totally out of his depth. As others have said, it makes no sense he comes on rather than Ribiero when we're holding onto a lead. I suspect it's a contractual issue with Ribiero. Countless former players have said they were not played due to contractual reasons and triggering of contract extentions etc. That surely has to be the case here too.

[alcd]

39 minutes ago, RoversTilliDie said:

Time will tell, if it's a point gained last night. On paper, Ipswich were the toughest opposition of the 3 home games. If we can win the other 2, it will put us in a better position.

Haven't won a home match against any of the teams in the bottom half of the league this season. Will have to play all those teams away from home in the second half of the season. Don't usually get anything at places such as Swansea, Oxford, Sheff Utd or Portsmouth. Absolutely need minimum 4 points from the next two matches. 

[alcd]

32 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

De Neve is cheaper, that's all there is to it.

 

The last 90+ minute winner in front of fans was November 2019, against Sheffield Wednesday at Ewood.

We need a repeat this Saturday. 

[Tomphil2]

I watch Chorley occasionally and i say this with ultimate honesty that is where Gueye should be.

I'd be questioning if he's related to someone involved at Rovers because whoever saw fit to elevate him to this level needs ignoring next time they recommend someone.

Add to that he is now a lazy bastard which is unforgivable, don't think iv'e ever heard a player booed ON at Rovers but it's coming.

[alcd]

4 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

I watch Chorley occasionally and i say this with ultimate honesty that is where Gueye should be.

I'd be questioning if he's related to someone involved at Rovers because whoever saw fit to elevate him to this level needs ignoring next time they recommend someone.

Add to that he is now a lazy bastard which is unforgivable, don't think iv'e ever heard a player booed ON at Rovers but it's coming.

Maybe Danny Murphy. Nobody gets lower than him but Gueye is close. 

[G Somerset Rover]

How can anyone have no problems with the substitutions when he consistently favours the terrible De Neve for the experienced heads of Ribeiro and Pickering. I know which two of the three I’d be bringing on to bring some calm and experience to the backline with the view of managing the final minutes of a game.

[Groundhog]

37 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Sadly, that tells a story. I wonder how many last minute winners we have conceded during the intervening period, a lot is my recollection🙈

Someone posted a link to a stat on X that read:

"Make that 17 result-changing goals conceded after the 90th minute since the start of 2021/22 season to 4 scored."

 

[Tom]

I actually thought both Tavares and Baradji grew into the game last night, Tavares has to be more alert when tracking a man but got a few good interceptions in and did ok further up the pitch.

Gueye was odd he was at walking pace but I thought under instruction maybe to let them have it along their back line and not charge them down.

[47er]

1 hour ago, Parsonblue said:

I have no problem with his substitutions.  With all the injuries he has at the moment it makes sense to me to try to manage the players

With all the injuries we have and the need to carefully manage the players do you not have a problem with Ribeiro and Pickering not playing? We are lacking defensively, particularly in the final phase of the game but these 2 who played regularly (and well) in a team that finished 7th are never picked, not even as substitutes.

Aren't we shooting ourselves in the foot!

[47er]

53 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Genuinely think we may play both Mori and Cantwell. Think first team when we have the shorter term injuries back is :

                                 Toth

          Miller        McCloughlin     Pratt

Alebiosu    Mori     Tronstad     Cantwell   Hedges

                      Ohashi     Gudjohnson

Subs : Pears, Litherland, Pickering, Baradji, Forshaw, De Neve, TGH, Montgomery, Gueye

                                

That's a promotion for Pickering! (ridiculously).

[London blue]

24 minutes ago, alcd said:

Maybe Danny Murphy. Nobody gets lower than him but Gueye is close. 

Fuck Danny Murphy.

[DE.]

45 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Sadly, that tells a story. I wonder how many last minute winners we have conceded during the intervening period, a lot is my recollection🙈

It will be one of the reasons home crowds continue to fall. Watching us under Venky ownership is soul destroying enough as it is, without adding hopelessness and anxiety to the closing stages of every match. When we finally got some respite from that under Eustace it was almost immediately torn away by the usual internal bickering and disagreements which led to us downgrading to Ismael. 

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, JHRover said:

It wasn't the ref's fault that we only scored 1 goal (again, that's 18 goals in 18 games - not enough) or that we conceded (again, that's still 0 clean sheets at home).

We could have defended a 1-0 lead far better than the disorganised chaotic mess that we provided (admittedly some may be down to tiredness but not the whole story).

And what happened last night is exactly the reason why the game should have been replayed in full. A goal in the last 30 seconds - even if undeserved over the 90 minutes - can easily happen, especially with our dismal home record.

Yes just ignored the fact Ipswich should have been down 10 men and a clear penalty on Ohashi. 

But no surprise to me you do

[Penwortham Blue]

15 minutes ago, DE. said:

It will be one of the reasons home crowds continue to fall. Watching us under Venky ownership is soul destroying enough as it is, without adding hopelessness and anxiety to the closing stages of every match. When we finally got some respite from that under Eustace it was almost immediately torn away by the usual internal bickering and disagreements which led to us downgrading to Ismael. 

The loss of home fans is everything about Venkys and the way this club has been systematically downgraded and dismantled, both on and off the field. However, your absolutely right, the home record and season upon season of conceding late, late goals and never coming from behind to win matches is another major factor for the sparse crowds and funereal atmosphere at Ewood.

Edited 51 minutes ago by Penwortham Blue

[London blue]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yes just ignored the fact Ipswich should have been down 10 men and a clear penalty on Ohashi. 

But no surprise to me you do

3 more points to the should have tally.

Should be premier league this time next year.

[StHelensRover]

13 minutes ago, DE. said:

It will be one of the reasons home crowds continue to fall. Watching us under Venky ownership is soul destroying enough as it is, without adding hopelessness and anxiety to the closing stages of every match. When we finally got some respite from that under Eustace it was almost immediately torn away by the usual internal bickering and disagreements which led to us downgrading to Ismael. 

We're just a soft target aren't we? Away fans love coming to Ewood Park, it's always rated as one of the best away days in the football league. Nothing to do with Blackburn being a lively place to visit, it's because most clubs know they can have as many tickets as they want, up to 7000, and that the home crowd is so deflated, sparse and spread out around the big empty stadium that it's effectively like a home game for the away team. I get to about half of our away games and supporting us away from home has been so much more enjoyable in the last few years, even though we probably pick up fewer points on average (this season excluded).

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I wasnt feeling positive after seeing us throw away another game late on.

And im not prepared to just pass all the blame on to the referee, or referees in general. Was it a red card? Probably, but then the whole game becomes different. Was it a penalty? I dont think so. But we cant control that. We can control constantly chucking away points. Our pathetic home record, and constantly giving up points. The squad is so weak, the subs are embarassing, the manager is a loser.

Still, we must be competing for promotion in the alternative table where we "deserve" to be.

When do you ever feel positive after a game? 

It is a clear red card and its a clear penalty. How about the refs actually manage the game properly and stop favouring the big teams. The refs allow Ipswich to waste time far too much with these fake injuries. 

how is bringing on Cantwell embarrassing? 

Yes the home record needs to be better but yesterday was our best home performance so far this season, can you not see that?  

[MarkBRFC]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

 

It is a clear red card and its a clear penalty. How about the refs actually manage the game properly and stop favouring the big teams. The refs allow Ipswich to waste time far too much with these fake injuries. 

  

Poor decisions have happened at times i agree.

However, it's not the officials fault that we can't defend properly in injury time.

Also, the manager has cost us more points at Ewood this season than the officials.

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Sorry chaddy, it wasn’t a red, more than enough time for Davies to cover, one of those you would be fuming if it were a red for us. 
he got a lot wrong but that’s wasn’t one of them. Plus , it’s an easy deflection of the real issue, we need to see that one out better. One high punt through and we are at sixes and sevens, keep the ball, defend the box, criminal that they have a spare man over , especially after having it done just 4 days earlier 

well we have to disagree there cos Leif Davis isn't getting back for me and McKenna said post match he would have want a red if that his side decision

Edited 31 minutes ago by chaddyrovers

[Penwortham Blue]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

well we have to disagree there cos Leif Davis is getting back for me and McKenna said post match he would have want a red if that his side decision

I think you meant to say Leif Davis isn’t getting back !

[Exiled_Rover]

40 minutes ago, Tom said:

I actually thought both Tavares and Baradji grew into the game last night, Tavares has to be more alert when tracking a man but got a few good interceptions in and did ok further up the pitch.

Gueye was odd he was at walking pace but I thought under instruction maybe to let them have it along their back line and not charge them down.

Gueye is the current scapegoat. He can't do anything right on this board.