We have obviously had a budget to spend on players which would improve the squad whilst mindful that it has to keep us within the realms of our salary structure and FFP. Mowbray and the scouts jjob was to identify and sign players which fit within that budget. He obviously wanted Bauer, a wide man and a striker and they have failed the achieve that. I'd rather we didn't buy any last minute knee jerk reaction players unless they have always been on the radar. We may well salvage the situation with loans but I would imagine Mowbray himself is disappointed with how it has panned out.

If we spend £5million on a player, he has to be the first name on the team sheet doesn't he?

I fear your mistake was believing it.

QPR forum is full of people saying why would we sell our best player on the last day of the transfer deadline. There's no-one saying get shut or he's replaceable. If we somehow start buying the best players from clubs in our own league then Id settle for that.

Leaked by QPR to put pressure on Rovers, only for Fernandes to then say he's not being sold?

I've not been critical of Rovers transfer policy at all this summer. However if we wait till 24 hours before the deadline to then launch a £4million bid for a player who they are saying is definitely not for sale it doesn't look great planning.

If McGinn is definitely better than what's we have then it makes sense to bring hIm in. You don't make progress being loyal all the time. Sometimes you have to make though decisions and he sounds like he could be a significantly better genuine midfielder than what we have. Agree on Downing. He did a great job last year and will give us an option of a 4th CB in the squad but we do need to get another in ASAP. The first Ipswich goal yesterday was another of those that a big ugly centre half, rather than the more cultured variety which we currently have, may have got his head on and cleared.

Yep. I've Just had a quick look and of the first 10 people to name a starting XI on this thread, 5 of them had Saumuel in there. The rest had Palmer in there who was never going to start. Id have put Rothwell in there instead personally though.

Half of Rovers fans would probably have put thosetwo in their starting XI so they aren't really controversial. Putting someone like Downing or Comway in would be controversial.

I don't think it's the result. It's the manner it came about. I only tuned in after about 15 minutes but without being spectacular we looked fairly comfortable. The game started to change after the substitutions and after each one we got more and more shaky. Williams was getting a roasting in that last period of the game and yet nothing was really done to help him out. Once Dack went off we rally did struggle to get out. Ipswich were relatively punchless apart from Edward so it was a kick in the teeth to see them equalise with a fluke. Overall I fear for Ipswich more than us. I think the frustration is that tactically we didn't help ourselves. It's easy in Hindisight but it seems mad that a team who were starting to get overrun in a tiring midfield, and who were getting shredded down their left side, ended up not utlilising Bell or Travis. On the plus side, it's good to see Graham and Dack off the mark early. I thought the two centre halves did well (although Mulgrew does back off from pace) and after an apparent shaky start we did seem to press well and control the game till we tired.

One of our suppliers who is a big Birmingham fan asked me about Gallagher when they signed him last season. I said that, despite his reputation, he's just a bang average championship striker. I spoke to him again in May and he said he's not even that.

Ignoring the sponsor,, I like the home kit but am not a fan of the away kit.

I've had a season ticket since 1991 but my view is that £400 is probably a threshold. Already I miss 4 or 5 games a season through work. For the remainder, some days I have to rush around like a lunatic to get home and get down to Ewood for kick off. Plymouth and Fleetwood midweek spring to mind from last season. I attend these purely because I have a season ticket. If the cost went over £400 then I'd pick and choose on a match to match basis, For my circumstances, Waggott is still operating within my 'budget' but, certainly for those who have a season ticket for convenience but don't attend every game, there is a limit.

Agree with this. It's OK saying trust Mowbray but he was the one who unearthed Gladwin , Hart and Caddis. He counteracted this with several cracking additions - including the loans of Chapman and Armstrong. However if only about half of his transfers turned out to be good, and we are only bringing in 3 more players, then that's why I think people are concerned.

I don't think you mean it sometimes but you don't half come across as aggressive or antagonistic Chaddy. You asked why people thought we were relying on loan signings now and AJW said it was because of the impending deadline. He wasn't disagreeing with you in any way whatsoever. Nor was he suggesting you didn't know when the deadline was. Yet your opening line in reply is as though he was having a pop. As for my opinion, I'll see what position we are in when the window shuts before I get excited or depressed. I don't agree that relying on the loan market is necessarily a bad thing. The Armstrong loan gave us an extra dimension at the end of last season. I still think many positions can be strengthened but Centre Half, Winger and striker priority for me.

If we signed him for a fee you be pretty disappointed at wasting the money. He had a purple,patch where he scored a few late in 2017 but before and after that spell he was largely ineffective in a successful team.

Yawn. Not again.

There are casual fans who will decide on the day of the game whether to go depending on weather or late changes in plans. My dad was one such fan later on in his life. Of course £3 will potentially put them off. Rovers have obviously done the numbers and feel squeezing £3 extra from the fans that will pay it will outweigh the people who are being put off by the surcharge.

I've no problem that France deserved to win. I just don't think they look like a team that can go on and on. They were solid but far from spectacular, and it was a World Cup were a lot of the usual suspects didn't turn up. It was less than 12 months ago they couldn't beat Luxembourg at home in a competitive game. International football is open for so many teams at the moment.

No it wasnt. Most people I know where very worried about the Croatia game. We hoped they'd be tired, the same as we fear we (England or Rovers) will be when we haven't had much recovery time. We planned what we might do if we were in the final but surely that's excitement and human nature.

And having seen the freeze frame, Pogba IS offside for the first France goal. He jumps for the ball and Mandzukic just manages to nick it of his head - into his own net. Why didn't VAR look at that, but does overturn a not very "clear and.obvious" handball. One was a matter of fact not.given. Then the opinion is given.

Is that goal not offside?

I've not seen an England side control the midfield, keep posession and generally control the tempo of the games in major tournaments ever. That's due more to the formation and tactics than it is to the players. Therefore I think changing to a back 4 would be madness. Make slight tactically tweaks by all means but play the formation which has served us well and let them worry about us. Otherwise if it backfires we will always wonder what if?

This is going to be a long 15 minutes for the Red Devil's.

Ball was going out of play. He was never going to catch it. However at the point of impact it's not over the line so it's a penalty. I know this because I rewound it and played it back in slow mode and freezed it. Its a pity the officials can't do that. Oh wait.....