Which is all well and good at a normal club, and something we can all understand. However here, it doesn't matter a jot as whatever fee comes in for Szmodics will be used for running costs for how ever long. To answer your question about what's the point in having a recruitment team if we won't be signing anyone, we will be signing someone I have no doubt, but it will be the dregs of the loan market in the last week of August where clubs are desperate to get players off there books in exchange for gametime. Also to help find cheap "gems" for the under 21 side. There's no chance anyone of any decent championship experience comes here this summer, because we can't or won't be prepared to pay what it takes to get them here.

I'd say it's definitely correct. We're running on the funds generated from Wharton and presumably Raya/new tv deal at the minute. How are we going to offer a competitive wage for Cooper, and a transfer fee and wages for Baker? We can't even get a 37 year old over the line who was already in the building. It's just not happening, all these links to these kind of players are just insulting our intelligence. The likes of the nantes under 19 player we were linked to yesterday is our pool this summer.

Cooper or Baker aren't going to happen. Why do we keep getting linked with players like this?

No. Think it will be £35 for this.

I think we have 14 players who should be able to play at this level fairly comfortably, and have done in the past to be fair. After that you have Markandey, Vale, Garrett, O'Riordan, Duru, Batty and Gent. We know the first couple on that list aren't good enough, jury is out on Garrett and who knows about the rest, I'm sure we'll see before long. Also Leonard and Gilsenan who look like they are both out for a while, and obviously Wharton who is out for most of the season. We need a keeper, central defender, left back, winger and striker just to hopefully stay clear of that bottom 3 for me.

Yeah every ST regardless of age gets 120 points.

Think it's pretty obvious he isn't signing.

Surely if it's not good enough for automatic promotion, you settle for the play offs?

Elliot doesn't know anything, It's just opinion of what he thinks will happen. He still thinks venkys can fund the club with a bond because that's what the club have said, he could have done some proper research on this at any time and hasn't bothered. He's a waste of time.

What could anyone want to possibly ask Elliot?

What evidence do you have that this is likely to happen with what we have seen so far this summer?

Don't forget Trav. We must be due 5 days of interview "snippets" from him soon by the club and Elliot about how he is a new signing and great to be back etc.

For some reason they are going up again in 2 weeks. £449 pounds for a "lower bowl" as they say season ticket.

Even @goozburger has given up with this thread. Have we limped to 9k yet?!

To be fair, the product is 23 home games, so if that doesn't happen I'm with you. How else have they miss sold it out of interest?!

Indeed, certainly nothing to whinge about when it comes to Rovers.

Southgate leaving has been confirmed.

We'll just limp on like this until we can't anymore. 20th August will come and go and we'll be none the wiser.

Hull have received a bid for McLoughlin from an overseas club. Another we can rule out.

Did the fans forum happen on the 8th of July as it was meant too? I hope some serious questions about this shambles of a club were asked.

I'm wondering if they want to get someone else in through the door to announce first rather than the Everton keeper, announcing him as a first team signing would be piss taking levels to the extreme, even for this lot!

Couple of years ago under JDT Hogan gave us all kinds of problems, should have had a hat trick. Had a good season too scoring 10 goals. I think it's a little bit late though for him now though, 1 goal in 26 last season.

Don't be fooled by Markandey, no where near good enough for this level. Seems to do well in friendlies and cup games against league 2 opposition, mostly second string league 2 opposition too but looks completely lost at Championship level.

What for?! He has had 8 years at it, time to move on with some fresh ideas. It's like when folk wanted Mowbray to stay on after 5 years here, to do what i'll never know.