Watched it last night, never seen so many orcs in one crowd... and I’ve been t’Turf.

I just enjoy watching ‘big clubs’ fail. Im obviously a bitter bastard, but so what

A 'football man', ain't he!

So if it isn’t costing the club a penny, the club doesn’t need to be ruthless and by the same token isn’t acting altruistically either. So, what are you ranting about?

Lot of assumptions on contract length and wages there.

In the real world, yes.

Makes me laugh this, if he’d not have been retained yesterday, I doubt I would have read any posts bemoaning TM’s lack of morals for cutting him loose!

I would presume he would expect to be paid more than 16 grand in 6 months!

Why will he only cost £16,000? And how do you know it will be only till January?

Taking up squad space and wage budget?

You’re obviously a more charitable man than me. The only loyalty TM should have when it comes to new contracts is to the club.

Didn't Arsenal just release Welbeck after spending the season injured? He's had the best medical care whilst under contract, but now it's time to move on, he can't have any complaints.

Thing with Rodwell is motivation. Sometimes just looks like he's playing on auto-pilot. No doubt he's full of class at this level.

Had a peruse of a Leeds forum last night. They weren't surprised they lost due to the 'EFL agenda against them', that includes appointing Manc ref Anthony Taylor

Leeds have spent more years outside the top flight than in it. They are nowt to write home about. They just happen to be lucky enough to be the only club in one of the country’s biggest cities.

Waggott’s praying for a Derby winner...

Of course, you win some, you lose some, was ever thus. But to enter negotiations with some of the existing losers is just unfathomable. Contract runs out and they move on.

He’s a league 1 player and good luck to him, but surely no place in our squad if we supposedly have aspirations for the Premier League. I’m not melting down, just stating a fact, Hart was kept on, so presumably Gladwin et al will be in line too as well.

Didn’t know you were a City fan, Skip?

That players we expected to be depart in June without question either aren’t or are in talks to stay.

We should have seen this coming in January when Hart was given a new deal.

Gladwin has spent two years injured and hasn’t ever stood out at League 1 level previously. Can’t even begin to comprehend that one. Bet he thinks Christmas has come early. That is not a retained list of a club looking at whole scale improvement of the squad.

To be fair to Villa. Historically and in the present day, a bigger club than Leeds any way you measure it. Yet, they get nowhere near the same media love in.

Because as crowds dwindled post 2012, so did the Darwen End. If the club now wants to grow its crowds again, why not work with fans to re-create one. Work on flags/banners etc? Club after club are setting them up, and the large demographic of such areas are young adults. They aren’t coming currently, so we just say ‘well they bloody well should!’ And that’s that? As I’ve always said, the key to increased crowds is increased season ticket sales and there are many ways to attempt that. What’s to lose?

Should be both. Just like it is elsewhere.