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I'll vouch for that Andy. He was anything but quiet and could tear a strip of his teammates or the match officials.

My real fear going into this game is how we will react to the result from Saturday. If the players are feeling sorry for themselves then it could be a long night. It's games like this when a good manager shows his real value.

I am as sure as I can be that it was done as per the procedure. Clearly I'm not privy to the dialogue but from what I saw everything was above board and more importantly the correct decision was reached.

I'm certain the conversation between the two was about whether Dack actually touched the ball. From the AR's position he couldn't tell and put the onus back to the referee. Again I'm certain there was no other dialogue between the other officials. Again I making an assumption but I wasn't convinced if the referee knew if Dack had actually touched it given the length of the conversation. The AR followed the prescribed process by standing his ground and not flagging. The correct decision was reached and by and large it was done by the book. In fact that incident aS better teamwork than anthem saw from Rovers.

There are some damming numbers in this well researched post and gives a strong indication that we haven't had enough leaders during Mowbrays tenure. And probably as alarming is the fact that he hasn't really done anything about it. Hopefully the LT reporter (who allegedly reads this site) can ask Mowbray for his views on what is a big weakness.

It was textbook officiating Tom. Had it been the other way round I think there may have been some different views. Significantly there hasn't been any complaint from Mowbray.

I haven't seen anything official about penalty rebounds. I think there was some fake news put out during the summer.

That was one decision they got right and the AR followed the correct process. I sit in the JW Upper and I saw a Rovers player in an offside position but I didn't know which of the two it was. The AR saw it exactly the same and sought clarification from the referee as to exactly who put the ball in the net. Once they established it was Williams they had to give offside. Although frustrating it was the right decision. Overall I thought the referee was weak and it was apparent after five minutes what Luton were up to. His flimsy waving of an arm of blowing of his whistle was futile as Luton players took excessive time at nearly every restart. I was embarrassed for him when he saw fit to caution in the fourth minute of stoppage time. Absolutely pointless and ineffective. Over the last few years I've noticed far too many teams getting away with killing the game and referees seem oblivious to it. They have a responsibility to the game to ensure fair play and they are failing in this most basic of duties. I have spoken to a couple of friends who are senior within the PGMO but they don't seem to concerned by it. I tell them that they don't pay hard earned money to watch football and don't have the feeling of being short changed.

Matt got a great reception at half time and he seemed to really appreciate it. He got an extra cheer when he mentioned the 5-0 Easter Sunday battering of that lot.

Looking at the Championship table kind of sums up to me where we are as a football club. Four wins, four defeat and a draw with a goal difference of zero. And the epitome of average (in football management terms) is Mowbray. I honestly can't see us getting anywhere near the top six let alone getting promoted as we just can't get any consistency into our results. We are/will be a mid table team under Mowbray as I don't believe he has what it takes to take us any further. I've seen a few posts comparing Mowbray and Bowyer and the more I think about it the more valid it becomes. I'm not advocating his sacking yet but merely stating what I see every week and his record as a Championship manager.

This sort of result was predicted by a few of the older sages who have seen this type of thing happen many many times. It almost mirrored the Charlton game for me when our play was slow and predictable with very little intensify. I honestly point the finger at the players for this. I really believe that the attitude, on the back of two decent results and a game against a poor team, was questionable from the majority of players. Our decision making was poor with far too many wrong choices by many. I was massively disappointed by our passing today with far too many of the wrong weight, balls passed behind players or just giving it away. Armstrong was poor today and I was amazed he didn't get the hook. Gallagher and Lenihan weren't far behind with Walton making the simple things difficult. I hadn't a clue what our shape was in the last fifteen minutes. Mowbray just seemed to throw players on within a plan or too much thought. It's back to basics for me on Tuesday with Graham up top and Dack in and around him. Holtby has to start and if he plays Downing and Armstrong at least have them on their correct wings.

Despicable, horrible man. He should never have been anywhere near our great club but the idiots gave him the keys to the castle and he revelled in the justified hatred towards him. Hopefully in the future we could celebrate a Venky's Out day too.

I understand ambition but Jones was held in such high esteem at Luton the fans would have accepted a couple of seasons of doom. Quite simply he over achieved in my opinion. He simply hasn't got that good grace at Stoke where expectations are high. I fear the Cowley brothers could go the same way at Huddersfield. Stoke play Huddersfield on Tuesday.

Which games will they be on sale at please?

Watching Stoke last night their manager reminded me of Coyle with his touchline antics. He was continuously jumping up and down, gesticulating and extremely furtive. I actually thought it was for the benefit of the cameras and crowd. Similar to Coyle it's almost like being visually enthusiastic will win people over. He just looks hopelessly out of his depth.

It sounds almost West Country to me.

It gets worse. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/richard-keogh-out-season-injury-20248378 Still they have Rooney coming in January to keep their drinking club going. Keogh's injury could lead to Lenihan or Williams getting a run in the ROI team.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-49828113 This is a strange one. The fact that both of them have been charged and two cars were involved suggests they were each driving the cars. Either way it looks like they have been extremely lucky not to be seriously hurt.

Normally wages are commensurate with transfer fees so I would have thought the likes of Gallagher and Brereton came in on decent money. Dack has earned his new deals and proved himself and should be our highest paid player.

We pay £3.50 return from Darwen and these buses are organised independently by a couple of fans. It's hassle free and hugely beneficial with no parking to look for and getting dropped off and picked up within a few minutes walk of Ewood. From the clubs perspective organising buses could encourage more supporters particularly the old and infirm and it's helps to keep the Ewood area less congested. If Rovers are serious about increasing the fan base they have to drive initiatives and not rely solely on fans.

I had a vague recollection of him moving but didn't check. Just looking further it appears that Stoke paid his contract up with a reported £2m payoff. They also paid £12m for him.

And they still have some big earners who are contributing nothing. Berahino on £80k weekly for example. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/stoke-city-f.c/payroll/#

The opening sentence is so true Philip. We should be looking no further than the next game and all the focus should be on that. Luton will provide us with tough opposition and although they have a propensity to concede they can score too. And Rovers fans of long standing know from was experiences that we can make hard work of what are eminently winnable games. I'll take a win of any description.

But it's always exaggerated as to how many wanted him sacked. Can you tell me how many people actually called for his head? Most of the posts I read were genuine concerns and some, as yet are unfounded but the season is a long and arduous process with many turns. I heard one City supporter calling for Guardiola to be sacked last week. That is how some fans think but sometimes there needs to be context as the vast majority do don't.

Most of the fans on here who expressed concerns about Mowbray will be happy to be proved wrong because, surprise surprise they are desperate to see Rovers doing well. And I am one of those who had doubts but there is going to be some taking of moral high ground by some posters which I find sad. I don't get carried away though and I know that our bi polar form of last season can be around the corner.