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#41 Amarillo

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:46 PM

Maybe the protesters should stop unfurling banners and concentrate on much more important issues. They could always send round a M.O.M. poll instead.


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#42 Mattyblue

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:46 PM

Divide and conquer then, Peds?

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:55 PM

Watch their actions, watch how they do it. They do not want the club to do well, they would rather we lose so they can protest.

At 2-2 they sat down and behaved, and at some of the time it wasd 2-1.....IF they are that unhappy that they all went sitting over there to protest then why did they only protest when we were losing??? Answer that.

Mattyblue - I agree with the collapsing statement, but I dont agree with the actions of those who are protesting inside a stadium in a vital game. Especially if its only when we are losing. How fickle and Sad does that make them look?


How sad do you look? Vital game my arse! Vital games come and go and we lose them. We aren't staying up------you think the actions of a few lads remotely compare to what Venkys have done to us?

You've been cheering on the lads all season but you haven't noticed they've sold the team from under you.

Not entirely sure what the protests have achieved over the course of the season, and i'd question some of the ideas and methods that have been taken, but i',m sure that if Rovers are down by the Wigan game then the entire stadium will unite against the owners and manager.


Might that be a little late?

#44 mark1875

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:57 PM

The protests failed and the relationship between fans fractured in my eyes when it became obvious that the reasons for protesting were massively overshadowed by the desire to suddenly win a popularity contest and those who protested thought that the best way to swell their numbers was to mock those that don't by saying that they are apathetic, aren't true fans, are spineless.


Completely disagree, as my reasons for protesting have never been overshadowed by any other desire than to simply have my voice heard at the utter contempt our club, town and supporters are being treat with. It is solely about Blackburn Rovers football club to me and there is no sense of personal gain or satisfaction involved.

Its not fair to end by saying the relationship between supporters fractured when we tried to swell numbers by mocking people by calling them spineless and questioning their support. What about those supporters who in turn call those who are standing up and voicing an opinion in public, rather than quietly behind close doors 'not true supporters', questioning whether we want the club to go down for our own gain and even approaching us on match days provoking and threatening us for daring to do what we believe is correct.

I have protested since September the 17th because there was no other platform for me to have my voice heard and i will continue to use this platform until somebody offers me an alternative method. On many occasions the protests could have stopped and talks be conducted around a table with the club, however the club have ignored this and in turn ignored the opinions and concerns of many supporters.

So the powers that be at the club are not exempt from blame in all of this, however yes supporters have differing views, this will always happen when a club is in a mess. However it is a two way street and to claim the supporters relationship was fractured by the protesters is completely inaccurate.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:58 PM

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B0llox. The steards were simply trying to stop them getting to Kean....which is fair enough.

There was a bunch of muppets, about 15 of them in yellow & black (Was Mullen one of them?) - they had a banner at 2-0. At 2-2 they sat down and behaved. But then as it went 3-2 the banners came out again and they were trying to get attention off the sky cameras.

Not there to support the team, simply to get on tv and try to create a bad atmosphere. They protested and we lost....but no doubt they will continue to claim we only win when they protest! :unsure:

As for Venkys hiding - they were sat outside in the Jack walker box....how is that hiding? I knew they were attending the game at around 2pm in the afternoon, hardly sneaked in and out.


I saw the guys who got the banners out also, one age 54 , one age 51 and 2 aged 49 and also disabled supporters, all of which have been going rovers for over 40 years, long before you was born, I take it their support in this 160 years collectively dont count for anything?
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 13:07 PM

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 13:08 PM

Kudos to those involved with the protest,if more had have known that lot were present the protests I'm sure would have been much greater.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 13:11 PM

Kudos to those involved with the protest,if more had have known that lot were present the protests I'm sure would have been much greater.


Even we did not know they would be present until they arrived in cars at 8.10pm. We put the word out immediately via twitter, facebook and texts, however with people already at the game and not online etc it was always going to be unheard by the majority at the ground.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 13:19 PM

Its not fair to end by saying the relationship between supporters fractured when we tried to swell numbers by mocking people by calling them spineless and questioning their support. What about those supporters who in turn call those who are standing up and voicing an opinion in public, rather than quietly behind close doors 'not true supporters', questioning whether we want the club to go down for our own gain and even approaching us on match days provoking and threatening us for daring to do what we believe is correct.

I have protested since September the 17th because there was no other platform for me to have my voice heard and i will continue to use this platform until somebody offers me an alternative method. On many occasions the protests could have stopped and talks be conducted around a table with the club, however the club have ignored this and in turn ignored the opinions and concerns of many supporters.

So the powers that be at the club are not exempt from blame in all of this, however yes supporters have differing views, this will always happen when a club is in a mess. However it is a two way street and to claim the supporters relationship was fractured by the protesters is completely inaccurate.


Read back what I said, first sentence - you are just agreeing with what I said Mark. I have said that it was the difference of attitude/opinion of both types of supporters.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 13:24 PM

Read back what I said, first sentence - you are just agreeing with what I said Mark. I have said that it was the difference of attitude/opinion of both types of supporters.


The response was aimed at the line "the relationship between fans fractured in my eyes when it became obvious that the reasons for protesting were massively overshadowed by the desire to suddenly win a popularity contest "

As i said i am not interested in popularity contests, my reasons were and still are Blackburn Rovers football club and that only.

Edited by mark1875, 11 April 2012 - 13:25 PM.

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#51 SIMON GARNERS 194

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 13:27 PM

Lets face it,they probably only came to see Liverpool.....Pune reds we are here!

Puna reds we are here, oh oh,Puna Reds we are here oh oh!


There was only one set of 'muppets' there last night..the terrible Rao's <_<

Edited by SIMON GARNERS 194, 11 April 2012 - 13:40 PM.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 13:34 PM

B0llox. The steards were simply trying to stop them getting to Kean....which is fair enough.

There was a bunch of muppets, about 15 of them in yellow & black (Was Mullen one of them?) - they had a banner at 2-0. At 2-2 they sat down and behaved. But then as it went 3-2 the banners came out again and they were trying to get attention off the sky cameras.

Not there to support the team, simply to get on tv and try to create a bad atmosphere. They protested and we lost....but no doubt they will continue to claim we only win when they protest! :unsure:

As for Venkys hiding - they were sat outside in the Jack walker box....how is that hiding? I knew they were attending the game at around 2pm in the afternoon, hardly sneaked in and out.

You're talking absolute garbage. Actually worse you're just lying because I saw it with my own eyes. Now fair enough I'll give you that they may have done later, I don't know I didn't spend my time studying them all match, all I can say is that when they took the banner out there were about four of them. There were another four in yellow shirts sat in the stand who weren't holding the banner. They weren't trying to "get to" Kean at all they were just unraveling the banner, were a decent enough distance away from him and they were protesting peacefully. They didn't have time to "get to" Kean even if that was the plan, within seconds of the banner appearing it was removed. And it's not like they were right behind him as you seem to be suggesting.

And anyway, so what if people are raising banners? They should be able to if that's how they feel. At other clubs it happens and it's allowed as they appreciate the fans have a right to voice their opinions. I wouldn't personally go holding out banners myself but I defend the right for anyone to do so. What kind of Stalinist dictatorship are we governed by?

We lost yesterday because of the incompetence of the owners and then the tactical naivety of the manager. Simple. Nothing to do with about eight lads in yellow shirts. And if you think it was then you really do need to change your tablets.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 13:38 PM

Maybe the protesters should stop unfurling banners and concentrate on much more important issues. They could always send round a M.O.M. poll instead.


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Edited by SouthAussieRover, 11 April 2012 - 13:38 PM.


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 13:59 PM

B0llox. The steards were simply trying to stop them getting to Kean....which is fair enough.

There was a bunch of muppets, about 15 of them in yellow & black (Was Mullen one of them?) - they had a banner at 2-0. At 2-2 they sat down and behaved. But then as it went 3-2 the banners came out again and they were trying to get attention off the sky cameras.

Not there to support the team, simply to get on tv and try to create a bad atmosphere. They protested and we lost....but no doubt they will continue to claim we only win when they protest! :unsure:

As for Venkys hiding - they were sat outside in the Jack walker box....how is that hiding? I knew they were attending the game at around 2pm in the afternoon, hardly sneaked in and out.


The only muppets on view last night were those sat outside the Jack Walker box, the clown in the dugout and several wearing the blue and white shirts.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 14:00 PM

i expected better from hughesy, didnt know he was anothe keanite, hes probably a closet dingle, fans have every right to protest after the way kean and venkys have dismantled our club, who they hell do you think you are blaming supporters for being upset, last night's game was one of a long line of catastrophic performances and results, the damage was done far earlier than last night, aim your anger and vitriol at those responsible and not innocent supporters who want whats best or you could just take your bottle of red round to steve's tonight and toast his good management!!!

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 14:02 PM

i expected better from hughesy, didnt know he was anothe keanite, hes probably a closet dingle, fans have every right to protest after the way kean and venkys have dismantled our club, who they hell do you think you are blaming supporters for being upset, last night's game was one of a long line of catastrophic performances and results, the damage was done far earlier than last night, aim your anger and vitriol at those responsible and not innocent supporters who want whats best or you could just take your bottle of red round to steve's tonight and toast his good management!!!


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 14:04 PM

The response was aimed at the line "the relationship between fans fractured in my eyes when it became obvious that the reasons for protesting were massively overshadowed by the desire to suddenly win a popularity contest "

As i said i am not interested in popularity contests, my reasons were and still are Blackburn Rovers football club and that only.


Sorry, I get you. Totally agree that it is a two sided issue and I haven't got that point accross well at all. You (and others) may disagree but I firmly believe that the blame mainly lays when the protests were overshadowed by gimmicks, self advertising. There was an obvious decision by someone to focus on mid-game gimmicks and attention seeking - this backfired massively because they quickly became irritants to the rest of the paying public who were equally as fed up with the way things were going but then overlooked the actual purpose of just wanting communication with the owners.
Anyone wearing yellow and black having a good old rant was instantly associated to the protestors and the same devilish media that Glen courted and danced with, tarred every Rovers fan with the idiot brush...thus this is how we are pretty much deemed to be this day, and the valid purpose of the original arguement is well and truly lost.

In addition to this, many of the protestors like to believe that it was Kean who started the divide...it wasn't, it was simply their own inability to deal with a bit of throw away criticism. It popped up around the time when Kean used the "minority" quote and regardless of it being true, it seemed to frazzle people and rattle the figureheads of the protests. That, in my eyes, is where things unravelled because it should have been taken on the chin or even humoured, yet from that more conspiracy theory nonsense evolved and it weakened the credibility and numbers of the protestors even further.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 14:13 PM

Sorry, I get you. Totally agree that it is a two sided issue and I haven't got that point accross well at all. You (and others) may disagree but I firmly believe that the blame mainly lays when the protests were overshadowed by gimmicks, self advertising. There was an obvious decision by someone to focus on mid-game gimmicks and attention seeking - this backfired massively because they quickly became irritants to the rest of the paying public who were equally as fed up with the way things were going but then overlooked the actual purpose of just wanting communication with the owners.
Anyone wearing yellow and black having a good old rant was instantly associated to the protestors and the same devilish media that Glen courted and danced with, tarred every Rovers fan with the idiot brush...thus this is how we are pretty much deemed to be this day, and the valid purpose of the original arguement is well and truly lost.

In addition to this, many of the protestors like to believe that it was Kean who started the divide...it wasn't, it was simply their own inability to deal with a bit of throw away criticism. It popped up around the time when Kean used the "minority" quote and regardless of it being true, it seemed to frazzle people and rattle the figureheads of the protests. That, in my eyes, is where things unravelled because it should have been taken on the chin or even humoured, yet from that more conspiracy theory nonsense evolved and it weakened the credibility and numbers of the protestors even further.


Mid game gimmicks? I remember a plane (incidentally I was 100% against the idea) However the group did not want silencing due to the banner ban, Like always the group decided the direction we took, we just organised it .So no body made a decision to attention seek,


I have never danced with the media, I have always given my views and beliefs, something I was never comfortable with, hence why I wanted a committee, and my name removing, i.e becoming a group and not being deemed an individual


Conspiracy theories, Can you please elaborate? Because everything I have read on here has pretty much been confirmed over the last 6 months, I have not seen anything said which has not been proven so far,


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 14:14 PM

I can't agree with you saying it wasn't Kean who started the divide (Pedro). For however the protests were organized and played out, it was still him who spoke to a newspaper asking for the none protesters to "have a word" with the protesters. I still don't know how he got away with that. People would have had disagreements for whatever happened as we all have different opinions, but he, the figurehead of the club, actively promoted it.

Edited by booth, 11 April 2012 - 14:16 PM.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 14:20 PM

I can't agree with you saying it wasn't Kean who started the divide. For however the protests were organized and played out, it was still him who spoke to a newspaper asking for the none protesters to "have a word" with the protesters. I still don't know how he got away with that. People would have had disagreements for whatever happened as we all have different opinions, but he, the figurehead of the club, actively promoted it.


He started it by being the wrong man for the job.

Glen, are you serious regarding conspiracy theories etc? You've spread many a rumour - it could be said that the protests were partially built on them. Also, of course you courted the media to get the maximum exposure for your plight- this website is littered with you saying you've contacted person X, Y and Z so I'm shocked at your response.




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