Charlton promoted to the championship for next season

Newcastle failing into 5th sums up the PL this year. Ref obviously had a mare in the United/Villa game, but Villa should still have been beating that awful United team comfortably. I think they may regret throwing away such a golden opportunity this season - Forest too, although their good season was much more unexpected. Meanwhile one of next season's PL "Champions" League representatives loses their final game 4-1 at home to Brighton, completing a season of domestic humiliation. Took a look at the Spurs forum and they all seem to want Ange gone. Give 'em hell Chadster.

It's not as if Derby won't have a clue what they're currently paid by Rovers

Ref as Incompetent as our owners. He should never be allowed to ref again.

Villa scored, incorrectly disallowed and going to miss out on a Champions League spot here cos the referee has blown the whistle before the ball went in the net so VAR couldn’t intervene.

It’s unreal, there. One of my favourites.

I think here all the focus is getting them into the first team whilst they are still on youth wages. Then just hoping the odd one is worth big wonga before they have to be paid a big enough wage to keep them here.

Sunderland are a better example. They have grown the value of their squad by keeping hold of their Academy starlets. Then selling when in a strong position. I think they had the most academy players playing in the championship this season

And…

The parachute money used to be to cushion a club after it spent big trying to compete in the prem. Now clubs go up, lube up and bend over and come back down £150 million richer.

Dullest league in the world

Schadenfreude at the plight of the snowball-throwing fans? Burying the dirty cash bodies? Blackburn who? Ie can't remember owning a club Plain fucking stupidity, inner because they don't know what to do next, who to trust. If we're really faced with a slow death, then what is the point any more? It might not even be slow. Back to back relegations and we're completely done for

and then it will be Forshaw signing up for another year 😉

Right back at ya 😉

One bad season is was it used to take, but this season has shown that the promoted three are often so bad it just isn’t the case anymore.

It'll be 1600 pages by the time this lot getting anything over the line.

Well on the way to 600 pages.

Derby who will no doubt surpass us next season on a similar budget just like Sunderland did. Meanwhile we have billionaire owners and have sold 40 million quids worth of talent whilst letting around half that walk for nothing in recent years. But yeah we get low gates so it's always that to blame obviously.

"what do they get out of this?". They get something out of it or they wouldn't still be here !

We don't offer competitive salaries when they go pro. Although not academy, look at Dolan. A pro deal when he signed, an improved deal 6 months later and then nothing for 4 years.

It doesn't end, at least for the foreseeable. Depending what happens with Brittain, Travis, Tronstad etc we might have one more competitive year at this level. After that I imagine we'll go down and have stability in the 3rd tier for a few years, without ever finishing in the top 6, then by the time we're into the 2030's we'll be looking at the bottom end of the 3rd tier or possibly even be in the 4th tier. All while the court case still rumbles on, fanbase dwindles even more, and folk asking "what do they get out of this?".

Sancho was class at dortmund. Joining utd was a big mistake

Gav - a quick google suggests that 5 BYD models have 5 star NCAP ratings? I haven't looked closely though. BYD have been around for a couple of years in the UK now - I remember coming across a BYD showroom when walking from Birmingham New St to St Andrews for a game. In Europe BYD sales have just passed Tesla. Range anxiety these days seems to be primarily in people who don't drive electric cars. In our case we charge nearly all the time at home but when we do venture far enough to need a charge away from home we haven't come across any real problem for years now and certainly not since we got our MG5 almost two years ago. Before that we had a first generation Renault Zoe for 6 years which had a lowish range and could only charge with a Type 2 charger. That was a problem on a long drive with slow charging and low range but those days are now well in the past. We have driven to London, Bristol, Glastonbury and Cornwall in the last two years. Every time we have charged en route and in the time we stop for a wee and a coffee the car is charged to 80%. The MG5 is a 2 year lease so we will be replacing it in the next couple of weeks. I might have had another had MG not stopped making them so I have a Polestar 2 arriving.

Forager’s Feast evening at Eight at Gazegill restaurant, Ribble Valley | Lancashire Telegraph You'll not find a full english breakfast at "Eight at Gazegill" restaurant but quality is outstanding set in Ribble Valley farm feilds.

I did mean to put getting lucky in quotation marks, which I have now done I would hazard a guess that Boro keep their youngsters for longer periods because their youngsters know that if they break through that they will be paid a decent wage for a couple of years until they are sold off, whereas at Rovers, they will be lowballed until they are shunted out of the door. Completely agree that the system is broken, as I stated yesterday, but Rovers (as well as every other club) also take advantage of it when they can