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im sorry but you cant blame your tea on them as well

How true. 2 or 3 injuries and we will have a squad that is barely league one standard. Imagine losing Cantwell and Alebiosu from the starting 11. Even if they avoid injury I bet we wouldn't turn down decent offers for either of them in January

I expect a few of them will get moved out pretty quickly like the last lot and they'll bring in a few more and try again. Fans just say oh it's ok only cheap punts some work some don't, fine but who benefits from the revolving door policy ? Because it isn't the team or club it's the wheeler's and dealers bringing them in and out in quick succession who do.

Tronstad s playing for his next badge.🥲

Put this on the Swansea thread. We just don’t have the quality to play the system he’s playing. Alebiosu is doing all the work down the right hand side. Miroshita had little impact and I’ve seen absolutely nothing from Kargbo to suggest he ever wears a Rovers shirt again. Similar down the left with Ribeiro. I would bring Wharton back in and play Ohashi off Gudjohnsen which I’ve always felt would be his better role. Be a good opportunity after an hour to introduce Tyjon into games. Main issue is the lack of centre backs. With Carter out, our back up would be Pickering & Atcheson, but we have to utilise what we have. No combination of two centre backs we have are anywhere near Batth & Hyam. Not saying we will storm up the league, but it might help stop us shipping goals and I’ve seen nothing from any of our three recognised strikers playing as a lone striker to suggest it’s working. Until January where I’m hoping the penny will have dropped that we need Championship experience and not cheap European gambles, it’s about damage limitation. I would consider…… Keep playing the same system and the same team, we’ll be rooted to the bottom of the league by Christmas.

Yet won away 1-0 at Cardiff.

I'm usually dead against a back 3, as I don't really think they work for teams at our level, but after last nights abysmal effort, I think a few things need to change: ----------------------Toth ------------Miller---Wharton---McLoughlin Alebiosu-------------------------------------Riberio -----------------Tronstad---TGH ------Morishita-------------------Cantwell --------------------Ohashi All of our good attacking play comes from the full backs. You could switch Riberio out for Hedges, if needed. We don't have any really good wingers. Kargbo is dreadful, Morishita is ineffective, De Neve doesn't get any games, Hedges is ok but nothing special. I think Morishita will have more success playing a bit more centrally, he struggles outwide, you could try Hendrikson in that role but he looked someway off being good enough in the time he's been on the pitch also. Having 3 centre backs, including 2 that have a good amount of Championship experience might benefit us defensively, where we have looked suspect. Might suit Miller more as well, he's not looked too good in a flat back 4.

If there was anything about Ismael he would be using the decisions that have gone against us this season into a siege mentality making us horrible to play against by taking a leaf out of Nathan Jones' book. Push the boundaries with the match officials and the laws. However I don't think he nous or football intelligence to do this.

He may be in time (assuming we still have him in 2/3 years), but isn't now Yes

A whole load of ex-pro's graduated from the PFA's leaders in football business course last month, as they do every year. If we were so desperate for an ex-pro to fulfil the role invented for Rudy then there are lots of qualified players out there. Rudy (shock horror) isn't one of them.

I still don't think the Cantwell one was a penalty. I'm also sick to the back teeth of the lack of ownership of our problems and fans washing it away. Ref's don't score goals, neither do they concede them. They don't set the tactics, or the team up and they don't make transfers. Over the course of a season the worst teams are near the bottom, it's nothing to do with luck. It's to do with performing in a manner that results in an inability to gather points. We are where we are because we've been crap for the majority of the games we've played this season, the result against Hull and the performance against Ipswich have been the exception not the norm. This is nothing new, we were also crap for the vast majority of the season from November onward last year. I can't be arsed doing it but I bet if we put together a league table from December 2024 to now it would make for pretty grim reading.

I cannot speak for everyone but people who I know who go were not 'duped.' After 15 years of this Venky's misrule and shambles it is quite clear the direction the club is going. All supporters need to unite to publicise this and, hopefully, get things to start changing!

Alebiosu spent the best part of ten years at Arsenal youth, so no coincidence he is standing out amongst the summer signings. In recent years, recruitment from European leagues has led us to just two decent signings in Kaminski & Tronstad. On the flip side, there were the likes of Wahlstedt & Telalovic. We now it appears have a squad full of players like this that we are relying on keeping us up! Last season we had a wealth of championship experience in Trav, Hyam, Dolan, Batth & Weimann. All replaced with European league gambles. I’ve not seen Baradji kick a ball yet, but I can pretty much assume he’ll be poor. What we saw in Kargbo I’m not sure. Downgrade on Markandy in my opinion. Recruitment has been absolutely dire.

I think they call it being 'installed' for a specific purpose. By whom is where the real truth lies.

Easiest 3 points Stoke will get all season. Rovers 0 Stoke 3

Fighters, not victims. Heard that phrase, Valerien?

Remember going to Stoke a few years ago with a good noisy following that contrasted the half empty, silent, clearly disillusioned home sections that later turned to anger. I expect similar on Saturday. Rovers 1 Stoke 3 But the upper office will be happy as usual after pocketing revenue from 3k visiting fans and seeing their patsy in tech area giving more mins to their 'investments'.

Here's an idea: When he swaggers around the fanzone with his partner in crime Sufail,why dont the fan's just give them both the two fingered salute and a quick fook off,they might get the message then.

Again who the hell proof reads statements issued by the Rovers. In the one for the debacle on Tuesday, the first line reads that the game was played on Friday . Or have I just lost it ?

Coldplay - Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall

Stoke will have a good noisy following,their tails are up. I cant predict another loss,its making me depressed! 1-1 14,500

Stoke had a tough away match at Middlesbrough last night, travelling back down after the game, late night. Us two home games in close succession. Could be an advantage there but then again just have to hope Ismael has no more birthday parties to go to before Saturday.

I pray that Gestede faces BBC Lancs in January and gets asked about the ‘gamble of inexperience’ again when we’re rooted in the bottom 3. The smug p****.

Are we allowed to start judging the signings now? As Josh said on Twitter last night it doesn't take 8 games to know someone is tosh. I said from the start Gueye was shite. I can confidently say the same of De Neve, Kargbo, Tavares and as it stands Baradji is utterly useless. Jury is out with Henriksson (being generous) and Gudjohnson. Alebiosu has been a very good signing. I won't be gaslit, it's horrendous recruitment.

I'm not so sure going forwards. Graham, Marshall, Conway and Joao are better forward options than we appear to have, and were technically better. That seasons younger Gallagher was better than the one we ended up with as well. Far more mobile. Mulgrew and Lenihan against whoever we put at the back now ? Both were better on the ball than any option we have. Todays full backs appear better, but not by a wide margin. Williams was player of the year that season V Ribero? Not a lot in that. And Nyambe wasn't perceived a weak link, albeit Abeliosu is clearly much better going forward and wins that one on what we have seen. In midfield you have Tronstad & Whoever against Lowe & Evans. However I always said it was in centre midfield where we failed that season. Smallwood coming in was a breath of fresh air. Tronstadt & Travis was clearly better, but we are scrapping around for a decent partner for him. Then you have a poor morale level and a manager I'm not sure they will respond to. We were 9/2 to go down at the start of the season and 7/1 to go down now, which is simply huge.