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Be sure not to miss the BRFCS Ultimate 150 List first poll at the top of the messageboard. Including some wonderful extra reading including a fabulous piece from an Everton historian on Jack Southworth.

Delighted with the early response and voting. Hopefully the names are bringing back some old stories or even introducing you to new ones. A favourite of mine during my research was of Jack Southworth from an Everton website. The Original Maestro in more ways than one! https://efcheritagesociety.com/maestro-the-jack-southworth-story/ With Les Graham (who some may remember?) in 1950. Jack made a return to Ewood after a ten year absence due to disagreements with the committee.

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Agreed, with the exception of a number 9 and number 10 because they both played as part of a front 2 (oohhh how uncouth), numbers were never used to describe a players position. At least not that I can remember. It's now become en vogue to use numbers for every possible position on the pitch. The people who have brought on this trend just look like a bunch of complete clowns though because 1. They use the wrong numbers for the wrong position. 2. Show me a team in the last 20 years that lined up 1-11. 3. If you want to say defensive midfielder, just fucking say defensive midfielder! You're not clever because you have coined some bullshit term for something that's existed for 150+ years, you're just a twat. 4. In years gone by teams were far more rigid in their setup so you could expect to see the guy wearing number 4 to be a defensive mid, the guy wearing number 5 to be a centre back, 7 & 11 on the wing etc but football hasn't been like that since the early 2000s at the very latest. Formations change, player's roles change and the tactics have changed, a lot. Remember when Jose gave a central defender the number 9 jersey? If 6 was 9 eh.

Pep ball is like hoof ball without the excitement.

The Beginning Of The End - Funky Nassau

That was when teams only needed one centre half. Number 5.

I can’t see what Rogers did the other night apart from one or two little passes. He was just making up the numbers.

Id argue it extremely negative when Spain did it in, especially in 2010 world cup (8 goals in 7 games). Early guardiola was more attacking and good to watch.

Fab that Gail is a Blackburn lass & is in tune with what we wanted so beautifully..

I have given up buying anything in the Roverstupor. It is not a boycott, it is a refusal to buy overpriced, poorly designed tat.

A world apart from the shite on offer in the Club shop. Well done.

Some photos from my collection…Simon Garner used the first one as his Twitter banner for a few years..!

I'm with you. The using of numbers instead of positions is one of these chic innovations to make the new breed of coaches and pundits sound clever.

Not guilty Gav. I was more like the blokes in the Highfield WMC talking nonsense.😃

This crops up every year. Growing up in the, 80s 5s and 6s were always centre halves. Now it’s become common in coaching circles to refer to them as defensive midfielders, what I would regard as a four. However every season if you look at Premier League squads, 6 is predominantly still a centre back. This season there are 11 centre backs., 5 defensive mids and 3 full backs.

I have read what you say but you go on your little soap box. Yes I picked Bellingham as the 10 but after watching the games and listening to other people opinions about how well we played and look like a team and had runners off Kane, I can understand why people want Rogers in the 10 cos how can play off Kane. Do you not see that? Do you not see that the team must cone first? I reckon Rogers place is already confirm he will go world cup injuries.

More commission to be had with one player in and one player out.

The Kinks - Dead End Street

Pep ball morphed into a corruption of what was the pinnacle of modern possession football - for example the Barcelona and Spain teams of Xavi and Iniesta. Even at City, when Mahrez and De Bruyne were at their best, there was a cutting edge. Eventually, it became a negative and self-indulgent fare.

You are not actually reading what people are saying as is often the case. My point about Anderson is that we cant be sure that he is perfectly suited to a role he hasnt really played in senior football, and isnt playing for his club. A few games against poor to awful international sides isnt enough evidence to suggest that against better sides he would be able to be as effective in that particular role. The Gerrard and Lampard example is not a relevant counter argument to my point. I acknowledged that it feels like the team is more balanced with for example an inferior player in Gordon wide left who may not be as good as Foden or Palmer but is an actual left winger rather than a number 10 being squeezed in. My point was that I dont believe that playing most likely a Bellingham OR Palmer OR Foden in any way does imbalance us as opposed to Rogers. Any of the 4 are natural number 10s, the first 3 are just better than Rogers. I also think that Rogers will be dropped before the tournament. Bellingham missed out because he hadnt really been playing, although I am unsure if there is also a personal issue between the 2. Palmer was injured. I think either starts as soon as they are available and ready. The fact that I believe you put Bellingham in your 11 in that position, but I may be wrong, says that you are either not reading what Ive put considering that I am suggesting the exact same thing, or are just trying to create arguments for the sake of it.

There have only been 3 who've held the club to account and JDT was the one who lasted longest, i doubt by choice.

Depends how old the money is. I remember 4 and 6 being half/wing backs.

Does it matter about his role at Forest given that he is playing with a different set of players but he was key player in their success last season which you can't deny RF99! The under 21's tournament was live on channel 4. So I watched every England game thanks Rf99 He has more than shown he is good enough for that role in those games but as ever you are over critical and doubting his undoubtedly quality and talent. Howe was huge fan and didnt want to sell him when they did. The Gerrard and Lampard situation is more than relevant to this point or last tournament when we played Foden on the left in the last tournament. We didnt look balance. Also the team looks more balanced cos you have runners around Kane with 4 players looking to get forward and in behind. Its suits us. Rogers poor form shouldn't matters cos he isn't in poor form for England. I will repeat if Bellingham or Palmer have to left to get the team working together and Kane then so be it

They really couldn't have made Darwen look any more grim. Remember the Punks and Skinheads massing on Darwen Bus station every weekend..Youth culture identity that seems lacking these days.