AussieinUk Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 So if Newcastle lose to Villa, and Hull dont beat United are Hull down with Boro and West Brom? If Newcastle lose against Villa.. Boro*, Newc and WBA** are down. *Boro have to win by a huge margin and Hull have to lose by a huge margin, for Boro to stay up... EDIT: **WBA have to also get at least a point against 'pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joey_big_nose Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 No, if Newcastle lose to Villa Newcastle are down. Newcastle need to better Hull's result next weekend basically. Massive fight brewing here. If United to field a weakned side against Hull then Newcastle will be spitting blood. But seeing as there is little love lost between Ferguson, the Geordies and (I think?) Alan Shearer it could be interesting. All starters in the CL will be rested for sure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Cheers guys. Thanks for clearing that up for me. C'mon Villa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony gale's mic Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 They have mentioned Pompey about 3 or 4 times? Pompey have two fewer points than us so are much closer to the scrap considering there was two games left... Boro are down, WBA are playing two sides with nothing to play for now so I wouldnt rule out them staying up...they will need two wins but I can see them wanting it much, much more vs Liverpool tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest benmaxwell Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Boro are down, WBA are playing two sides with nothing to play for now so I wouldnt rule out them staying up...they will need two wins but I can see them wanting it much, much more vs Liverpool tomorrow. Apart from the threequarters of a million pounds that comes with the final league position..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Pompey are safe today as well. WBA go down if they don't get a point tomorrow and Sunderland are safe if they win at Pompey but right now its three from WBA, Boro, Newcastle, Hull and Sunderland going down. Fulham and Spurs are battling for 7th and the Europa Cup place. 11 Stoke 37 -14 45 12 Wigan 37 -12 42 13 Bolton 37 -11 41 14 Blackburn 36 -18 40 15 Portsmouth 36 -20 38 16 Sunderland 36 -17 36 17 Hull 37 -24 35 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18 Newcastle 37 -18 34 19 Middlesbrough 37 -28 32 20 West Brom 36 -29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony gale's mic Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Apart from the threequarters of a million pounds that comes with the final league position..? It was a figure of speech. Liverpool definitely won't be fussed about that 750k, they'll just be deflated after going full pelt for so long and have had their fair share of losses to lowly opposition in the past. And clearly our players won't be anyway near as fired up as if we were playing for a place in the league or a place in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Massive fight brewing here. If United to field a weakned side against Hull then Newcastle will be spitting blood. But seeing as there is little love lost between Ferguson, the Geordies and (I think?) Alan Shearer it could be interesting. All starters in the CL will be rested for sure.... There is also the point that of some of the squad for manu may need to play to qualify for a medal! not sure what the count is but it could be interesting and justification for not playing the regulars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeChuck Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 There is also the point that of some of the squad for manu may need to play to qualify for a medal! not sure what the count is but it could be interesting and justification for not playing the regulars I think it's 10 games required to get the medal. I'd be amazed if there was more than one Man Utd player stuck on 9 games, I don't think it'll be a factor at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony gale's mic Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 The final will be justification alone for not playing the regulars. Does Fergie want to get back at Shearer for turning him down twice? The relegation battle is probably in his and O'Neill's hands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAFELL Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Come on Villa get them barcodes stuffed. Villa are not in good order though, I can see a draw. Makes me feel good that Friedal is now at villa - He'll help send newcastle down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers in America Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 There is also the point that of some of the squad for manu may need to play to qualify for a medal! not sure what the count is but it could be interesting and justification for not playing the regulars According to Premier League rules, Man U get 21 medals for players, manager, and staff, and a player has to play 10 Premier League games to qualify for a medal. A quick glance doesn't show anyone sitting on 9 premiership games that needs just 1 to qualify for a medal. Also show 18 players already at the 10 game mark. But not sure how many staff members take up those 21 medals in addition to one being for Ferguson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kamy100 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 There is no way fergie is going to play any of his starting eleven for the final, he probably won't even risk the likes of Jonny Evans, although Utd reserve players are good enough to cause Hull problems but they still have a great chance of staying up. Newcastle in trouble and can see them losing to Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbleValleyRover Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 We were probably safe a game or two back but to make it mathematically impossible to go down is a great relief. Now we 100% know we are safe the rebuilding can begin for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Tom Posted May 16, 2009 Backroom Share Posted May 16, 2009 Great feeling to have it confirmed. Well done Sam, job well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 There is no way fergie is going to play any of his starting eleven for the final, he probably won't even risk the likes of Jonny Evans, although Utd reserve players are good enough to cause Hull problems but they still have a great chance of staying up. Newcastle in trouble and can see them losing to Villa. Just been listening to the Manc players. It was all: "We'll have a good night tonight then its back to work on Monday preparing for Barcelona." With the Hull game late on the Sunday afternoon, I think you are correct Kamy. Hull steaming to stay up are very likely to cause injuries with over-enthusastic tackling and aerial challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenodrog Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Newcastle 0 - 1 Fulham... WERE SAFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice to be safe with the first result of the afternoon. WE ARE SAFE!!!!! Good weekend already. Happy days. As Gunner says we are safe with the first result in. It's funny but I can hardly remember a bad day concerning the results of our relegation rivals in the last two months! If I had written what results we would have wished for before every weekend it'd not have been far wrong. Not often things work so well for us is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwins Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 The most worrying thing for barcodes is that villa are a very good and fast counter attacking team and newcastle have to go for the win, i would'nt like to have to try to get a result out of that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony gale's mic Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 They'll also be without Bassong who they seem to think is their best defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 They'll also be without Bassong who they seem to think is their best defender. They have no recognised left back currently fit so Duff was playing there today. With Duff having lost his pace and Milner a Newcastle old boy who didn't leave on the best of terms, Villa could have fun on the flanks. Certainly Newcastle's rear guard will be no match for the pace of Young and Agbonlahor. However, I think Hull will need a draw as I think the barcodes might force a draw at Villa Park despite Villa wanting to win to re-take 5th place off the Toffees who have a sticky one at Craven Cottage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted May 16, 2009 Backroom Share Posted May 16, 2009 Bassong's a massive loss for Newcastle. Means they'll have to play Colocinni might as well just put ten men on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonv Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Made up with the Newcastle result,the way they celebrated their win against Boro you would have thought they were safe already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stuart Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Someone close this thread You're joking mate. This one will be a fairground next week with any luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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