Bobby G Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Not much of a denial, but for someone who has supposedly and allegedly scammed people, he seems relaxed when I see him at Santander matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Billy Castell Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 What a choice. A Crook (allegedly) and a family of retards. With hindsight a slow death under the trust would have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 More on this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Toronto Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 More on this... Wow, the story is hardening up fast from a dodgy looking website to proper quotes from angry Aussie businessmen. "Follow the money" indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moss Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 More on this... It looks as if the Trust placed us in the hands of the better of the two, as between Venkys and Syed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 WGA had been advertising in the FT for ages last year. Are they still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92er Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Wow, the story is hardening up fast from a dodgy looking website to proper quotes from angry Aussie businessmen. "Follow the money" indeed. Some of the comments below the article are interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 You might get some clues into the investigation into Syed from these links: http://www.wikifrauds.net/index.html http://www.westerngulfadvisory.net/ There isn't any outright evidence presented there, but where there's smoke, there's usually fire. Otherwise someone is going to an awful amount of trouble over a personal vendetta. Both sites are down now. The allegations against Syed are for outright fraud. Generally speaking because fraudulently obtained moneys can be moved so fast, asset freeze injunctions and international arrest warrants follow extremely quickly when stories of this nature go public. The burden of proof sits firmly with those making the accusations- where are the injunctions and warrants if this is the open and shut case that is reported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Phil, how did Syed get through all these deals? Surely, if any loan is granted, it is made available without the borrower having to pay an amount up front? Unless these are for admin fees etc, I don't quite understand, what the amount is from those investors. Do you pay, to get a loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Arrangement fees are the upfront payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversmum Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hmm very lucky escape for Rovers it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ada2020 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Between Syed and our owners this does not paint a nice picture for over seas ownership does it....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roost Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 The guy is a lunatic - just watch the link above showing his celebrations - what a crank! Its a shame that people seem to have been duped by his (alleged) scam, but surely their naivety is also incredible - "you pay me £1M and I will lend you £40M" - unbeliveable that anyone would deal on that basis, unless the money was held in escrow. Greed, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Fascinating piece in today's Times by Ashling O'Connor and Graham Keeley, P.98. Unfortunately I can't post a link because of the way Murdoch prefers to do business. But basically, allegedly, the players are still waiting for Syed to follow through on promises to pay them (some wages they are owed) and has apparently missed 4 deadlines, and it has, according to The Times, "emerged that Racing borrowed €2m this month from an alternative source to WGA that specialises in arranging loans". Some other choice quotes and/or spooky similarities, from The Times piece: "The Indian [owner] is struggling to win over supporters at [the club]." "Despite promises to invest in players, the fairytale is already turning sour, with fans worried their team man drop out of [the] top division and sink further into debt." (Spooky ) "The fans are divided about [the owner]. Some are worried he may not be all he seems." It seems that there were/are more stringent rules around financial disclosure in the Premier League than La Liga - which were introduced by the PL following the Portsmouth debacle. As we know, Ali did not buy Blackburn Rovers - a team he apparently had been a fan of for 10 years - but instead purchased a majority share in Racing Santander - a place where he allegedly had never visited before. Although I imagine that this is nothing more than an unfortunate coincidence, and that Syed is a fanatical football fan, and possibly slightly flammable. As a result however, it would seem, we have Venkys as owners rather than Syed. Hurray. In all seriousness though, if we think things are bad now - they could potentially have been even worse. Aa a footnote, Racing don't have a Steve Kean but they do have Marcelino García Toral, who, looking at his management record, would be like Ince returning to Rovers for a second spell. Food for thought indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony gale's mic Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Aa a footnote, Racing don't have a Steve Kean but they do have Marcelino García Toral, who, looking at his management record, would be like Ince returning to Rovers for a second spell. Food for thought indeed. Just had a look though, and apparently Garcia Toral got Santander to their best ever 6th place finish in the one season he managed at the club. More like getting Hughes back, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Just had a look though, and apparently Garcia Toral got Santander to their best ever 6th place finish in the one season he managed at the club. More like getting Hughes back, surely? It did cross my mind but not looking at the rest of his record. Ince Mk II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imy9 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Both sites are down now. The allegations against Syed are for outright fraud. Generally speaking because fraudulently obtained moneys can be moved so fast, asset freeze injunctions and international arrest warrants follow extremely quickly when stories of this nature go public. The burden of proof sits firmly with those making the accusations- where are the injunctions and warrants if this is the open and shut case that is reported? http://wikifrauds.diariobit.es/alithethief.html Wikifrauds is still active, tried it 5 minutes ago, don't know ifs come on again or has always been off. Interesting that the message that used to come on the WGA website denying the fraud claims has now gone, the other site is back up again too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47er Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Further story: http://www.footballeconomy.com/content/blackburn-fans-may-have-had-lucky-escape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony gale's mic Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 I remember the sheer anger that most of this board had at Adrian Goldberg last summer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Philip doesn't seem as quick to report Syed's misgivings as he has Venky's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Philip doesn't seem as quick to report Syed's misgivings as he has Venky's. Interesting that one isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony gale's mic Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 It was always obvious this guy had something fishy about him. How could someone who previously didnt pop up on Google searches, have next to nothing about him on the internet and have a business which was equally difficult to find much about possibly be a billionaire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47er Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Interesting that one isn't it Agree with you there Zav. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Agree with you there Zav. Zav? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47er Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Zav? Ok--Gac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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