[Archived] Steve Kean Thread (Poll reset after Stoke game)

[broadsword]

someone posted it recently. He has both Iley (13ish) and Ince (17ish) ahead of him.

[rebelmswar]

Bearing in mind this was Keans point total in September.

TONY ADAMS (Portsmouth)

Won: 2

Drew: 4

Lost: 9

% of points won: 22.2

PAUL INCE (Blackburn)

Won: 3

Drew: 4

Lost: 10

% of points won: 25.5

IAIN DOWIE (Crystal Palace and Charlton)

Won: 9

Drew: 14

Lost: 27

% of points won: 27.3

AVRAM GRANT (At Portsmouth and West Ham)

Won: 12

Drew: 18

Lost: 33

% of points won: 28.6

STEVE KEAN (Blackburn)

Won: 5

Drew: 8

Lost: 12

% of points won: 30.7

CHRISTIAN GROSS (Spurs)

Won: 12

Drew: 11

Lost: 18

% of points won: 38.2

JUANDE RAMOS (Spurs)

Won: 10

Drew: 11

Lost: 14

% of points won: 39

[yoda]

Bearing in mind this was Keans point total in September.

TONY ADAMS (Portsmouth)

Won: 2

Drew: 4

Lost: 9

% of points won: 22.2

PAUL INCE (Blackburn)

Won: 3

Drew: 4

Lost: 10

% of points won: 25.5

IAIN DOWIE (Crystal Palace and Charlton)

Won: 9

Drew: 14

Lost: 27

% of points won: 27.3

AVRAM GRANT (At Portsmouth and West Ham)

Won: 12

Drew: 18

Lost: 33

% of points won: 28.6

STEVE KEAN (Blackburn)

Won: 5

Drew: 8

Lost: 12

% of points won: 30.7

CHRISTIAN GROSS (Spurs)

Won: 12

Drew: 11

Lost: 18

% of points won: 38.2

JUANDE RAMOS (Spurs)

Won: 10

Drew: 11

Lost: 14

% of points won: 39

If the deciding factor on Keans future is that when his record is the worse of the worse, then we are finished

[Gav]

Tell you what, Keans doing a great job at turning the protesters into the villains of the piece, so much so the national media seem to think he’s being badly treated?

Have they not looked at his bleedin record since he took over

[DE.]

Tell you what, Keans doing a great job at turning the protesters into the villains of the piece, so much so the national media seem to think he’s being badly treated?

Have they not looked at his bleedin record since he took over

I'm sure they have, but for the majority of them it doesn't suit their angle so they choose to ignore it.

[Mattyblue]

Tell you what, Keans doing a great job at turning the protesters into the villains of the piece, so much so the national media seem to think he’s being badly treated?

Have they not looked at his bleedin record since he took over

He's an extremely canny operator.

[John]

Apologies if this has already been posted.

BUGLER played the Last Post before kick-off. And Rovers fans gave Steve Kean the Last Rites after the final whistle. No wonder! The manager has had 32 games in charge now — and he has lost half of them

[booth]

Tell you what, Keans doing a great job at turning the protesters into the villains of the piece, so much so the national media seem to think he’s being badly treated?

Have they not looked at his bleedin record since he took over

It's not what you know it's who. And Steve Kean reinforces that like nobody else.

[yawnsie]

Booth, I agree that these comments probably lack a little bit of tact. Despite the fact that I agree with his comments about trhe young team and attacking style, I think he should have kept these comments to himself. I dont agree with the protesters, but I respect their right to protest and dont think their views should be trivialised and ignored.

That aside, are you seriously trying to suggest that these comments could insight violence. If there is anybody so mindless and idiotic that they would become violent as a result of these comments, then they have serious issues and need to calm themselves down.

He's advocating direct confortation between two elements of Rovers' supporters. He then follows that up by very pointedly referring to the fans supporting him as "good fans." At best it's cynical, at worst it's downright manipulative. Either way it's certainly irresponsible to divide the supporters of your club into a "good" group and a group that isn't good.

[broadsword]

He's an extremely canny operator.

Not when it comes to managing a team he isn't.

[Gav]

He's an extremely canny operator.

I think his mate the mascot photographer is working overtime, hope he goes when Kean does.

[den]

Inappropriate.

[Mr Maureen]

On a lighter note,something amusing from the Chelsea game.

During the minutes silence the Rovers macsot was stood in the line of Rovers players,head bowed.It just contradicted the solemnity of the minutes silence,and looked very funny.

Anyone got a picture please.

[yawnsie]

Is Kean statistically (win / loss ratio etc) the worst manager since the formation of the Premier League ?

is he also statistically the worst manager in Rovers history ?

Does anyone have access to the information ?

Off the top of my head, John Gorman won 5 out of 42 games at Swindon in 93-94. There can't be many with worse records than Kean though.

[booth]

Off the top of my head, John Gorman won 5 out of 42 games at Swindon in 93-94. There can't be many with worse records than Kean though.

Talksport did this all for you but back then Kean wasn't top of the bottom.

Now he is by a mile.

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/features/2011-09-15/how-steve-keans-record-compares-worst-premier-league-managers-ever

[jim mk2]

Bearing in mind this was Keans point total in September.

TONY ADAMS (Portsmouth)

Won: 2

Drew: 4

Lost: 9

% of points won: 22.2

PAUL INCE (Blackburn)

Won: 3

Drew: 4

Lost: 10

% of points won: 25.5

IAIN DOWIE (Crystal Palace and Charlton)

Won: 9

Drew: 14

Lost: 27

% of points won: 27.3

AVRAM GRANT (At Portsmouth and West Ham)

Won: 12

Drew: 18

Lost: 33

% of points won: 28.6

STEVE KEAN (Blackburn)

Won: 5

Drew: 8

Lost: 12

% of points won: 30.7

CHRISTIAN GROSS (Spurs)

Won: 12

Drew: 11

Lost: 18

% of points won: 38.2

JUANDE RAMOS (Spurs)

Won: 10

Drew: 11

Lost: 14

% of points won: 39

Thanks for that.

So Adams and Ince were both disasters and binned as soon as it became apparent they were useless, Portsmouth were relegated under Grant and West Ham did not heed the warning by binning him early and were relegated, while Dowie relegated Palace and was binned after 15 games at Charlton who subsequently were relegated.

Keane is in good company.

[booth]

Thanks for that.

So Adams and Ince were both disasters and binned as soon as it became apparent they were useless, Portsmouth were relegated under Grant and West Ham did not heed the warning by binning him early and were relegated, while Dowie relegated Palace and was binned after 15 games at Charlton who subsequently were relegated.

Keane is in good company.

And with an 18.85% success rate, the lowest of the low.

[martmitch]

I pray for the morning I wake up to read our club is rid of the virus that is Steve kean, I pray it's soon, shouldn't have lasted the summer imo

[47er]

He might now be worse than Jim Iley statistically as the Rovers' worst ever.

Kean isn't worse than Paul Jewel's stint at Derby but his record must be easily in the bottom ten managers in the all time Premier League and very probaly has the worst record of any manager to have had 30 games in the PL.

Yeah but things are improving!

[Rovermatt]

I listened aghast as the usually excellent Guardian football writers (including ex-youth teamer Greg Roughley) dismissed our woeful position and results out of hand. They all offer the usual rote platitudes which is highly disappointing given the standard listeners have come to expect from some of the best football journos about. Trying to find out a way of contacting them to register my displeasure. I would advise you all to check it out here.

[Rovermatt]

Send your e-mails to:

football.editor@guardianunlimited.co.uk. I would mark them for the attention of the Football Weekly podcast.

[Elegia]

On the subject of emails, these alleged emails of praise Steve kean has received... Where would they send them to??? From the little research I have done his email address doesn't seem to be public.......

[RoyRover]

I'm sure it's been mentioned several times over the hundreds of pages dedicated to deluded manager Steve Kean, but it struck me earlier on how odd it is that the owners went with Kean in the first place and not just their continual support for him. When they bought the club they had this vision of the team playing open attractive football and going on to conquer the world with the Venky's logo behind them. Indeed all the talk was about signing marque players like Beckham, Kaka, Ronaldhino and Raul to really launch the Rovers name world wide. Surely then the owners would have wanted a big name manager to head up their plans for world domination?

Obviously Mourinho was out of the picture, but I would have thought that if Rovers was to be their flagship business project that would be the vehicle by which Venky's would become a globally recognised brand, they would have wanted someone and I hate using this term, 'sexier' to be captaining the ship, rather than some baldy fella from Glasgow, who had a less than distinguished career? A Frank Rijkaard, Rafa Benetiz or some one of those Brazlian guys who've managed the national team on 5 different occasions would have been more up their street. It does re-enforce the notion that the Indians aren't running the show at all. Their continual backing of him, despite his embarrassing record would also point to this to.

Then again nothing that the owners have done has made sense they rolled into town.

[Tony Diamond Inc]

I listened aghast as the usually excellent Guardian football writers (including ex-youth teamer Greg Roughley) dismissed our woeful position and results out of hand. They all offer the usual rote platitudes which is highly disappointing given the standard listeners have come to expect from some of the best football journos about. Trying to find out a way of contacting them to register my displeasure. I would advise you all to check it out here.

Is the penny dropping?

Kean is an investment, and is starting to pay dividends. Hang in there it's bull market time!

[Rovermatt]

I'm sorry I don't follow you.