Let's Talk Tyrhys Dolan

[Beebop]

Looks like it’s Bristol City according to Wikipedia - has current club down as them:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrhys_Dolan

 

[RevidgeBlue]

7 hours ago, Beebop said:

Looks like it’s Bristol City according to Wikipedia - has current club down as them:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrhys_Dolan

 

As anyone can edit a Wikipedia page, might just be someone being mischievous or could actually  be a tease by Dolan for the eagle eyed as to his destination.

Good luck to him if it is them. I'm sure he'd be on a wage more commensurate with his ability than he'd be on here.

[KentExile]

7 hours ago, Beebop said:

Looks like it’s Bristol City according to Wikipedia - has current club down as them:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrhys_Dolan

 

 

16 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

As anyone can edit a Wikipedia page, might just be someone being mischievous or could actually  be a tease by Dolan for the eagle eyed as to his destination.

Good luck to him if it is them. I'm sure he'd be on a wage more commensurate with his ability than he'd be on here.

Maybe I am just cynical, and if so, then the passage of time will prove me wrong, but it does make you wonder if the person who registered on the site 7 hours ago for what seems to be the sole purpose of making one post about his wikipedia page, just might have been the person who edited his wikipedia page?

 

Edited Tuesday at 06:13 by KentExile

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, KentExile said:

 

Maybe I am just cynical, but it does make you wonder if the person who registered on the site 7 hours ago for wat seems to be the sole purpose of making one post about his wikipedia page, just might have been the person who edited his wikipedia page?

 

You said it not me but I suspect you're not a million miles away.

I thought it might have been Todd Cantwell. He seems to like dropping hints on Dolan's future without his say so.

[Tomphil2]

Allegedly he was at Brizzles training ground a few weeks ago.

[Beebop]

To be honest I’m a Bristol City fan who has heard it first hand that Dolan’s agents went to Lords over the weekend during the test match to thrash out a deal with the City reps. When I went into his Wikipedia site to find out a bit about him I saw that his current side is down as Bristol City. However, there is absolutely no gossip abut him in local media or fans forum so all seems rather odd to me. I can assure you I did not update his Wikipedia page but I was hoping one of you might know something at your end.

[Tomphil2]

Only that i saw someone from Bristol on X a few weeks ago saying Dolan had been shown around the training ground.

Seems like half the teams fans in the Championship are claiming he's signing for them but it could just be agent tittle tattle trying to drum up interest.

Just think the fact that Bristol City is a bit left field and was never mentioned anywhere else it might actually have legs, if they pay well they'll be in with a shout certainly.

[Mercer]

Think Dolan needs to sack his agent as he seems to have been sold, and believed, a fairytale.

Huge dose of reality setting in for the lad. 

 

[Upside Down]

Some people aren't half jumping to conclusions with this. 

He's been a championship regular for three years and he's only 23. He will have his fair share of suitors.

[Mashed Potatoes]

4 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

Some people aren't half jumping to conclusions with this. 

He's been a championship regular for three years and he's only 23. He will have his fair share of suitors.

Yes, he will certainly have suitors - the question is whether he and his agent have significantly over-estimated the size of the financial offer that he can command.

[47er]

1 hour ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Yes, he will certainly have suitors - the question is whether he and his agent have significantly over-estimated the size of the financial offer that he can command.

It'll be more than he's been offered at Ewood and that's what counts.

[islander200]

If a championship club is taking him they will be trying to agree a fee with Rovers rather than letting it go to tribunal .He won't be a "free" for a championship club 

With the amount of appearances made it will easily be over a million if it goes to tribunal more if someone is offering Dolan a decent contract as his salary at his new club will be taken into account If the tribunal are setting his price 

[roversfan99]

2 hours ago, Mercer said:

Think Dolan needs to sack his agent as he seems to have been sold, and believed, a fairytale.

Huge dose of reality setting in for the lad. 

 

Because hes only in mid July not yet decided on his next move having rejected our no doubt pitiful offer? He must have been "sold a fairytale?"

I dont get why this narrative has grown legs like it has.

[Mercer]

11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Because hes only in mid July not yet decided on his next move having rejected our no doubt pitiful offer? He must have been "sold a fairytale?"

I dont get why this narrative has grown legs like it has.

The timing suggests to me that he's not the 'hot property' he and his agent thought he might be.

Championship teams are at least 2 weeks into their pre season and you think Dolan would be a 'low hanging fruit' and easy to pick. 

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, Mercer said:

The timing suggests to me that he's not the 'hot property' he and his agent thought he might be.

Championship teams are at least 2 weeks into their pre season and you think Dolan would be a 'low hanging fruit' and easy to pick. 

They also would have to agree a compensation package with us ideally to avoid a tribunal.

But either way, all this stuff about his agent feeding him a fairytale at this stage is unfounded rubbish. 

Why have you got the impression that he and his agent see him as this hot property? 

[Mercer]

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

They also would have to agree a compensation package with us ideally to avoid a tribunal.

But either way, all this stuff about his agent feeding him a fairytale at this stage is unfounded rubbish. 

Why have you got the impression that he and his agent see him as this hot property? 

Have posted my thoughts and you disagree.

Not going to waste my time arguing the toss with you.

[Leonard Venkhater]

1 hour ago, islander200 said:

If a championship club is taking him they will be trying to agree a fee with Rovers rather than letting it go to tribunal .He won't be a "free" for a championship club 

With the amount of appearances made it will easily be over a million if it goes to tribunal more if someone is offering Dolan a decent contract as his salary at his new club will be taken into account If the tribunal are setting his price 

Good!

[RevidgeBlue]

9 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Good!

Are we entitled to compensation even though we have allowed his contract to expire?

Edit: There would seem to be little point for him in running down his contract if that were the case.

Edited yesterday at 12:35 by RevidgeBlue

[islander200]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Are we entitled to compensation even though we have allowed his contract to expire?

Edit: There would seem to be little point for him in running down his contract if that were the case.

If he goes to another club in this country then yes we will get compensation 

Set by tribunal If the club getting him can't agree a fee with us.

[Leonard Venkhater]

10 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Are we entitled to compensation even though we have allowed his contract to expire?

Edit: There would seem to be little point for him in running down his contract if that were the case.

I think we are-due to his age...

[wilsdenrover]

2 hours ago, islander200 said:

If a championship club is taking him they will be trying to agree a fee with Rovers rather than letting it go to tribunal .He won't be a "free" for a championship club 

With the amount of appearances made it will easily be over a million if it goes to tribunal more if someone is offering Dolan a decent contract as his salary at his new club will be taken into account If the tribunal are setting his price 

That bit might be offset by the fact the contract offer we made to him is also taken into account.

[Eddie]

I think it is difficult to look at how this has unfolded so far and not think that Dolan and his agent have misplayed this situation. 

Should he have received our most recent contract offers - if there even were any? Probably not. Should he have accepted better terms that were definitely offered to him under Broughton? Yes. 

He's missed out on 2+ years of higher earning and is now 2+ weeks into receiving no salary. He would absolutely have benefited from another season in a stable environemnt as a guaranteed starter. 

He's probably now finding out just how small his current reputation is and that he didn't have the types of offers he was hoping for. I'm sure he will end up at a decent Championship club, but it will be a lateral move that will delay any bigger steps by a year or two. 

[roversfan99]

11 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I think it is difficult to look at how this has unfolded so far and not think that Dolan and his agent have misplayed this situation. 

Should he have received our most recent contract offers - if there even were any? Probably not. Should he have accepted better terms that were definitely offered to him under Broughton? Yes. 

He's missed out on 2+ years of higher earning and is now 2+ weeks into receiving no salary. He would absolutely have benefited from another season in a stable environemnt as a guaranteed starter. 

He's probably now finding out just how small his current reputation is and that he didn't have the types of offers he was hoping for. I'm sure he will end up at a decent Championship club, but it will be a lateral move that will delay any bigger steps by a year or two. 

But surely it shows that the contract offered 2 years ago was not at the level it should have been. Why would anyone agree to a pay rise if that pay rise was still up to a wage well below what similar players would expect to receive at this level, and then he would be tied to that amount for multiple years.

Just using random figures, I am not saying these are reflective. But say he was on £2k and was offered £6k for 5 years. And the average regular Championship winger is on £12k. You wouldnt tie yourself down when your rise would still have you well below the average.

Also, I might be wrong. But dont players get a months worth of pay following the expiry of a contract?

[KentExile]

6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Also, I might be wrong. But dont players get a months worth of pay following the expiry of a contract?

Yes, if players are not with a new club by the time their contracts expire on 30th June, their old club pays their wage until the end of July or until the player signs up with a new club, whichever comes sooner

[MarkBRFC]

20 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Are we entitled to compensation even though we have allowed his contract to expire?

Only if we have offered him a new deal on at least the same terms as he's on now.

If we didn't offer him a deal, then I think we would be entitled to nothing.