England

[Upside Down]

6 hours ago, bazza said:

Southgate was best England manager since Robson

That just shows how shit all the others have been.

The bar's so low it's buried about 2m underground.

[USABlue]

Slow, tedious, boring where was the tempo?

[chaddyrovers]

8 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Tomori only started 19 games last season in the league, White predominantly is a sub full back for Arsenal and Hall seems to be 3rd choice in the full back position at Newcastle.

Unfortunately, we have a really weak choice in terms of defenders across the back line. We did have a solid defence but it has gone with time.

we have good defenders and alot of them are playing champions league or previously have plenty of PL experiences. Hall is being slowly brough back into the first team. 

White is quality player for me. him, Guehi, Konsa, Burn and Colwill would be good 5 centre back to take the world cup

[rigger]

5 hours ago, USABlue said:

Slow, tedious, boring where was the tempo?

Substitute "where was", with "that is".

Edited Sunday at 08:02 by rigger

[rigger]

Perhaps the players have been told, that when playing away from Wembley, it is important to quieten the crowd.

[roverandout]

Excellent performance 

[Darrenbot]

Maybe Tuchel knows what he's doing after all.

[London blue]

They were very good tonight.

Madueke is a real player. Proper ball on a string dribbler.

Adding Saka, Palmer and Bellingham to this team somehow will be difficult. Some will be disappointed, which will be one of Tuchel's biggest challenges.

If he can't fit in, Bellingham doesn't have to start. Can he handle that?

[roverandout]

2 minutes ago, London blue said:

They were very good tonight.

Madueke is a real player. Proper ball on a string dribbler.

Adding Saka, Palmer and Bellingham to this team somehow will be difficult. Some will be disappointed, which will be one of Tuchel's biggest challenges.

If he can't fit in, Bellingham doesn't have to start. Can he handle that?

We've got excellent options in every position apart from maybe striker 

[roversfan99]

Defence, left wing, holding midfield. Question marks across all those positions, both in terms of quality and who will play.

Tonight was an excellent performance against a limited side, we blew them away, but its important to not get too carried away, same as on the flip side where we call for a change of manager after scraping past minnows in Andorra.

We will learn very little from such a poor group in which weve essentially already qualified.

[Gav]

Very good performance that tonight, credit where credit is due.

Onwards and Upwards. 

[roverandout]

17 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Defence, left wing, holding midfield. Question marks across all those positions, both in terms of quality and who will play.

Tonight was an excellent performance against a limited side, we blew them away, but its important to not get too carried away, same as on the flip side where we call for a change of manager after scraping past minnows in Andorra.

We will learn very little from such a poor group in which weve essentially already qualified.

Ghuei and konsa are quality.  Anderson and Wharton are both made for international football.  Grealish Gordon and possibly madueke on the left with saka on the right. I don't understand why you don't think konsa and ghuei are top class. Ghuei could have any club in Europe in the summer 

[roversfan99]

51 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Ghuei and konsa are quality.  Anderson and Wharton are both made for international football.  Grealish Gordon and possibly madueke on the left with saka on the right. I don't understand why you don't think konsa and ghuei are top class. Ghuei could have any club in Europe in the summer 

They arent top class. Guehi is the better of the 2, but hes not a top class defender. Konsa is a good Premier League player. Left back is possibly the biggest concern. Ultimately they werent tested too much against a very defensive Serbian side.

Wharton has played 1 international friendly. We know he has potentiala nd ability but he has to prove that he is "made for international football." Anderson has more to prove too. 

And left wing. Grealish has been out in the cold for years, has started well at Everton but its 2 games. Gordon very hit and miss for me. Madueke better on the right.

The problem is, you always will say that England players are better than they are. Obviously we do have some very good players, and ultimately its subjective. But I think the current set of England players is down a level from previous tournaments due to key defensive players aging/being past their best and out in the cold, and there are imbalances. Wouldnt have us as a serious contender to win it personally.

[roverandout]

17 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

They arent top class. Guehi is the better of the 2, but hes not a top class defender. Konsa is a good Premier League player. Left back is possibly the biggest concern. Ultimately they werent tested too much against a very defensive Serbian side.

Wharton has played 1 international friendly. We know he has potentiala nd ability but he has to prove that he is "made for international football." Anderson has more to prove too. 

And left wing. Grealish has been out in the cold for years, has started well at Everton but its 2 games. Gordon very hit and miss for me. Madueke better on the right.

The problem is, you always will say that England players are better than they are. Obviously we do have some very good players, and ultimately its subjective. But I think the current set of England players is down a level from previous tournaments due to key defensive players aging/being past their best and out in the cold, and there are imbalances. Wouldnt have us as a serious contender to win it personally.

I think we've got the best options we've had in years

[roverandout]

And why is left-back a concern. Livramento Lewis-skelly and Lewis hall have all been excellent options at left-back over the last year