Premier League

[K-Hod]

Match going fans should be the priority. I’d argue they’re little more than an afterthought, nowadays.
It’s possible to have too much of a good thing with the TV coverage and that’s exactly what has happened, IMO.

[Mattyblue]

Exactly, it’s turned into moving wallpaper, instead of the big weekly event it was when it was a couple of live games a weekend.

[chaddyrovers]

We have 5 live PL games per weekend already but with certain teams having European games it further complicated the matters cos more games are being played on Sunday at 2pm So they have decided to televised those games to allow fans to watch those games who wouldn't have access to them unless they have dodgy box/firestick. Plus Sky have got their Amazon games per season. 

[GHR]

The thing could be played in the middle of Siberia at 4am on a Tuesday and we'd be being told it is for the best to capture the global audience. Any true and proper Palace fan would get there as they must realise some fella in a flat in Beijing has yearned to see them in the Cup final since he started following football duting Covid is of equal importance to the equation.

[Mattyblue]

So on some weekends there could be 70% of PL matches shown live at all manners of times.

Like I said it becomes moving wallpaper/schedule filling instead of appointment to watch TV.

[roversfan99]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

so you think games should only be played at 3pm on Saturday then? 

Or should we actually moved the times and realised that those days have gone and the world has changed from 9-5 work schedule Monday to Friday and we lived in 24/7 economy and we should have games on from Friday night to Monday night like we have for many years now. If you looked at the Spanish La Liga schedule that 10 games are spread over 10 different times slot and all covered by TV 

No, I dont. Youve suggested this before as if the 2 options are to move no games or to have free reign to move the vast majority. There is a middle ground.

You are fixated with the European fixtures which make up such a small minority of games moved across the season simply because you dont have TNT sports.

Ive suggested before that on weekends where a couple of teams have played on the Thursday and cant play on the Saturday, then make their games the Super Sunday game. 

Ive also suggested the things that I would propose:

- dont move numerous games to the same time. 1 is plenty. So say Friday night, 2 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday and one sometimes on Monday. There are 6 slots, there is no need to move more than 6 of 46 games in a weekend. That way, youve got a televised game in every slot. We dont need for example 8 or 9 to choose from on Saturday dinnertime. 

- no team can be shown over a certain amount of games per season, or consecutively. Unfair to keep moving games for the same sets of fans week after week.

- decide all TV games at the start of the season to allow transport to be arranged. If they miss the odd important game, tough. 

It wont happen because of greed and disregard towards fans from all concerned.

Again, not interested in Spanish TV times. Totally different culture.

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, GHR said:

The thing could be played in the middle of Siberia at 4am on a Tuesday and we'd be being told it is for the best to capture the global audience. Any true and proper Palace fan would get there as they must realise some fella in a flat in Beijing has yearned to see them in the Cup final since he started following football duting Covid is of equal importance to the equation.

I do wonder in say 10 or 20 years how different still the football calendar will look. Games in the early hours, games hosted in different countries, doesnt bear thinking about.

[simongarnerisgod]

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I do wonder in say 10 or 20 years how different still the football calendar will look. Games in the early hours, games hosted in different countries, doesnt bear thinking about.

spurs vs arsenal in australia

villa vs notts forest in north africa

man utd vs liverpool in saudi arabia

fans ar`nt relevant anymore,we are only there for the sound effects on match day  and being milked for the expensive merchandise

in the next decade some c.e.o will try and market the game to even an even bigger level,building a stadium for corporate clients only,you know it`s coming

[GHR]

25 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I do wonder in say 10 or 20 years how different still the football calendar will look. Games in the early hours, games hosted in different countries, doesnt bear thinking about.

Now that Wembley is paid off there or thereabouts, I wouldn't be surprised if word of the Community Shield moving to America or the Middle East starts. Spain have had theirs in Saudi for years now, and of course it is a four-team tournament instead of a standalone fixture.

Amazon Cannons (AKA Arsenal) v. Tesla Blues (AKA Chelsea) to kick off the inaugural 2030 English Super Cup Championship at some field in the desert near Riyadh at 0230 GMT on Boxing Day morning.

[simongarnerisgod]

the players are already being flogged to death as well (that amazingly silly world club cup for one) so no idea how long a football career will be in ten years time,they won`t be getting 2 months off in the summer thats a certainty

[Mattyblue]

Want an example of how much the modern game has gone away from its traditions… the team sitting in 15th (so obviously not challenging, I.e what you would say is appointment TV) have had one 3pm game all season.

[Norbert Rassragr]

I don't expect that young lad Yamal at Barcelona to last beyond 33. When Messi was his age, he was playing 20 games a season maximum. Yamal is playing 40-50 games if not more. He's being flogged whilst his body's still growing.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

No, I dont. Youve suggested this before as if the 2 options are to move no games or to have free reign to move the vast majority. There is a middle ground.

You are fixated with the European fixtures which make up such a small minority of games moved across the season simply because you dont have TNT sports.

Firstly as I have told you previously, I don't have TNT Sports because they don't have the sport coverage I wanted to watch like Premier league, EFL, F1, cricket, Darts, so why would I pay £30 pounds a month for something I don't watch. 

But you don't have TNT sports or Sky Sports either RF99 so don't start taking the high horse here

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Ive suggested before that on weekends where a couple of teams have played on the Thursday and cant play on the Saturday, then make their games the Super Sunday game. 

Ive also suggested the things that I would propose:

- dont move numerous games to the same time. 1 is plenty. So say Friday night, 2 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday and one sometimes on Monday. There are 6 slots, there is no need to move more than 6 of 46 games in a weekend. That way, youve got a televised game in every slot. We dont need for example 8 or 9 to choose from on Saturday dinnertime. 

- no team can be shown over a certain amount of games per season, or consecutively. Unfair to keep moving games for the same sets of fans week after week.

- decide all TV games at the start of the season to allow transport to be arranged. If they miss the odd important game, tough. 

It wont happen because of greed and disregard towards fans from all concerned.

You yet again, are mixing up two different competitions and you can't put both deals together. The PL and its clubs have their own TV rights and the EFL and its clubs have they. 

The problem with limited how many times teams can be on will also decrease the worth of the finances in the TV deal and you wanted the team challenging for the championship or Top 4/European places which can only be determined as the season goes on and how teams played over a course of a season or what happens if teams make it to later stages of the FA Cup or European games, then games are moved. TV companies give plenty of notice 

We have been over why the EFL deal was made and why games have been moved to increased the revenue for clubs from TV rights which the clubs wanted. 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Again, not interested in Spanish TV times. Totally different culture.

cos it doesn't suit your argument and not your opinion. 

[Ossydave]

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 If you looked at the Spanish La Liga schedule that 10 games are spread over 10 different times slot and all covered by TV 

Have you attended a La Liga game? You'll find the numbers of away fans are tiny, it's impacts them a hell of a lot less. Likewise fans rely on TV coverage a lot more for the same reason. Obviously the size of the country makes it a lot harder to travel, along with the small away allocations, but comparing the 2 is pretty pointless.