Exiled_Rover Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago A second division club with no history and no sizeable fan base. Meanwhile the Venkys continue to strangle the life out of our club with their cold, dead hands. 3 Quote
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jim mk2 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: A second division club with no history and no sizeable fan base. Plymouth Argyle was founded in 1886 - how much history do you want? Average gates at Home Park in 2024-25 were about 16,500 compared to about 16,150 at Ewood Quote
Mattyblue Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Hang on a minute, Jim, thought you were usually bemoaning ‘nothing southern clubs that have spent most of their time in the third and fourth divisions’ ? 1 Quote
davulsukur Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: A second division club with no history and no sizeable fan base. Meanwhile the Venkys continue to strangle the life out of our club with their cold, dead hands. The owners & senior management at Rovers (Waggott included) have done a very good job of pushing the narrative that there are no alternatives out there for a change in ownership at Rovers, that we should be grateful even, of their continued ownership. They've got a good amount of the fanbase believing that we are maxed out in every respect, we push the boundaries as far as we can within the limits of the regulations. I've even had comments from Dingles on X along the lines of "WiThOuT VeNkY's YoU's CoLlApSe" and that "No one would ever buy us" The reality, as demonstrated across all the leagues in English football is that there are willing parties out there, ready to take over football clubs and do so with real, genuine ambition with ideas and plans in place to drive that ambition. The only reason it won't happen here is because of whatever bizarre reason Venky's have for refusing to let us go. We're going to be left behind sooner rather than later, and the longer they keep us in their death grip, the further we will fall. 4 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 35 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: Plymouth Argyle was founded in 1886 - how much history do you want? Average gates at Home Park in 2024-25 were about 16,500 compared to about 16,150 at Ewood It's fun that you dislike me so much that you'd argue black is blue. 🤣 How about some trophies, Jim? How about their attendances don't match ours at our absolute lowest ebb? 1 Quote
miqaayil Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 20 minutes ago, davulsukur said: The owners & senior management at Rovers (Waggott included) have done a very good job of pushing the narrative that there are no alternatives out there for a change in ownership at Rovers, that we should be grateful even, of their continued ownership. They've got a good amount of the fanbase believing that we are maxed out in every respect, we push the boundaries as far as we can within the limits of the regulations. I've even had comments from Dingles on X along the lines of "WiThOuT VeNkY's YoU's CoLlApSe" and that "No one would ever buy us" The reality, as demonstrated across all the leagues in English football is that there are willing parties out there, ready to take over football clubs and do so with real, genuine ambition with ideas and plans in place to drive that ambition. The only reason it won't happen here is because of whatever bizarre reason Venky's have for refusing to let us go. We're going to be left behind sooner rather than later, and the longer they keep us in their death grip, the further we will fall. I always believed the venky's are holding simply because without rovers they have to settle the collateral so they kicking the can... but now i believe Suhail is the lynchpin with V's name on the signboard with Kentaro still in driving seat.... only a full financial forensic investigation can uncover this and i pray a reason for it happens .... Al capone was caught because of tax evasion .... 7 Quote
Forever Blue Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, lraC said: I didn’t say YOU did, so wonder why YOU responded? Probs cos YOU quoted me. Surprised that needed explaining to YOU Quote
Forever Blue Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 33 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: It's fun that you dislike me so much that you'd argue black is blue. 🤣 How about some trophies, Jim? How about their attendances don't match ours at our absolute lowest ebb? There’s a lot of potential in Plymouth. It’s a city of close to 280k with a much bigger catchment area. 2 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Good potential at Plymouth to build the crowds if they got them going upwards year on year. That's why these investors go for the likes of them plus there is a new story to create with little expectation of past glories because there are non, it's all new and shiny and not poisoned by anything. Besides that they could also play the hedge fund Russian roulette model they do at Burnley were you fill a small ground, keep going up and down and running of big debt then trading players and paying dividends out of the parachute/tv income. Quote
rigger Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: There’s a lot of potential in Plymouth. It’s a city of close to 280k with a much bigger catchment area. Most of Devon, and imagine if the Cornish folk started to go. Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, davulsukur said: I've even had comments from Dingles on X along the lines of "WiThOuT VeNkY's YoU's CoLlApSe" and that "No one would ever buy us" Lets put it this way,some poor b'stard bought that destitute absolute crock of shit Football Club so their is hope for us all! Edited 5 hours ago by SIMON GARNERS 194 2 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 46 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: There’s a lot of potential in Plymouth. It’s a city of close to 280k with a much bigger catchment area. there are reasons that plymouth have never been in the top division,it`s in the middle of nowhere,hence you will always struggle to attract top players and rugby is massive in the west country/cornwall,if was`nt for the pathetic rfu stangling all life out of the game,cornwall would have a side in the premier league 1 Quote
JHRover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 hours ago, davulsukur said: The owners & senior management at Rovers (Waggott included) have done a very good job of pushing the narrative that there are no alternatives out there for a change in ownership at Rovers, that we should be grateful even, of their continued ownership. They've got a good amount of the fanbase believing that we are maxed out in every respect, we push the boundaries as far as we can within the limits of the regulations. I've even had comments from Dingles on X along the lines of "WiThOuT VeNkY's YoU's CoLlApSe" and that "No one would ever buy us" The reality, as demonstrated across all the leagues in English football is that there are willing parties out there, ready to take over football clubs and do so with real, genuine ambition with ideas and plans in place to drive that ambition. The only reason it won't happen here is because of whatever bizarre reason Venky's have for refusing to let us go. We're going to be left behind sooner rather than later, and the longer they keep us in their death grip, the further we will fall. Perfectly summarised. Still people don't recognise that we are in the midst of an existential crisis under these owners, there is no future, no growth, no plan, no ambition, at the very best we tread water under a zombie administration making a competent job of whatever resources they chuck our way until either the staff/players get fed up and go elsewhere or our wonderful owners smash it all to bits again because they feel like it. Every day, week, month, year this regime continues its poisonous grip on BRFC is simply more and more time and distance we fall behind just about any other club with competent fit ad proper ownership. Ultimately there will be nothing left, only by then it will be too late to recover from. 4 Quote
DeeCee Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, rigger said: Most of Devon, and imagine if the Cornish folk started to go. Big following from the Duchy, probably up to 1,000. 3,000 on the waiting list for Argyle season tickets. Quote
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