Contracts

[simongarnerisgod]

45 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

They'll get extensions because they are cheap, short term deals and we need a squad.

The ones that won't get new deals will be Trav, Tronstad, Brittain and Hyam as they'll all want good wages.

the thick indians still hav`nt realised after 15 years  if you get rid of your best players and replace them with inferior ones ,you will get relegated,the only difference now from when they first took over is the fact they luckily stumbled onto appointing  3 decent managers which  stopped our descent to oblivion for the time being

id`e advise ismael to get out the club as soon as possible before his reputation is completely shredded,this coming season is going to be a complete bomb

[Tomphil2]

4 hours ago, roverblue said:

Based on Gestede talking about wanting academy lads and players with re-sale value I would be amazed if any of the older players get extensions.

Think they will this time but by the sounds of it they'll move right away from any real experience in future in favour of kids, kid loans and small fee Yuki, Gueye types to make small profits on.

The very system that nearly got us relegated before Eustace restored some normality to the squad but never mind we might get the long awaited cheap season tickets when they drop us a division again.

[USABlue]

Dies everyone reckon Dolan is a goner?  I am thinking so.

[Exiled_Rover]

7 minutes ago, USABlue said:

Dies everyone reckon Dolan is a goner?  I am thinking so.

Yes. He'll know where he's going too.

[JHRover]

The only people attempting to suggest that he isn't a goner are the Club via their media sources, those being the Venkygraph and Radio Lancashire, who continue to push the narrative that the ball is entirely in Dolan's court, that there remains a good offer on the table from Rovers, that he might yet sign it but that he wants to 'explore' his options out there this summer.

I think everyone else realises what we are dealing with here and I suspect the club's 'efforts' to persuade him to stay have been derisory given the approach they have taken to other key players and the general running of the club. They don't take any facet of being a professional football club seriously except cutting corners wherever they can so why anyone thinks Dolan is getting different treatment is beyond me. 

The meek acceptance of some to the situation - a mere shrug of the shoulders at the suggestion/expectation that he will be walking off to a Championship rival in the summer for nothing, potentially a Derby County who were in administration not long ago (look what we'd become if it wasn't for Venkys) is all sickening and unacceptable to me but hey ho I'm a negative moaner.

[alex l]

I don't think Dolan is 100% gone.... If all the stars align and we end up being promoted (yes, not very likely) he'll sign on. There'd be an argument that he isn't of the standard needed in the Prem, but we'd offer a better contract if only to be able to sell him down the line. 

[USABlue]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

The only people attempting to suggest that he isn't a goner are the Club via their media sources, those being the Venkygraph and Radio Lancashire, who continue to push the narrative that the ball is entirely in Dolan's court, that there remains a good offer on the table from Rovers, that he might yet sign it but that he wants to 'explore' his options out there this summer.

I think everyone else realises what we are dealing with here and I suspect the club's 'efforts' to persuade him to stay have been derisory given the approach they have taken to other key players and the general running of the club. They don't take any facet of being a professional football club seriously except cutting corners wherever they can so why anyone thinks Dolan is getting different treatment is beyond me. 

The meek acceptance of some to the situation - a mere shrug of the shoulders at the suggestion/expectation that he will be walking off to a Championship rival in the summer for nothing, potentially a Derby County who were in administration not long ago (look what we'd become if it wasn't for Venkys) is all sickening and unacceptable to me but hey ho I'm a negative moaner.

Your 1st paragraoh sounds a lot like the narrative surrounding Lenihan's departure.  I really think Dolan thinks he is better than he is, his heads been turned.  He may end up on the long list of thise saw the grass to be greener then did naff all the rest of their career.

[roversfan99]

Not particularly relevant to Dolan but that tendency of our players moving on and their move not working out to their advantage has massively shrunk.

Obviously you will find that our players in general are very rarely of a standard to establish themselves regularly in the Premier League but a few (Kaminski, Rothwell, Armstrong, Brereton, Szmodics etc) have at least experienced a season up there before then falling back to playing at genuine promotion contenders.

[47er]

5 hours ago, alex l said:

but we'd offer a better contract if only to be able to sell him down the line. 

Which we should do anyway with them all.

[chaddyrovers]

From listening to Elliott Jackson's LT podcast that Rovers will offer Forshaw a new contract and Ismael wants to keep him

[roversfan99]

Forshaw as well as Hedges?

Jesus christ. Shows the ambition of the club.

[wilsdenrover]

They’re happy to stand still which means we’ll go backwards.

[Mattyblue]

How about the deals to those players that will actually be wanted elsewhere? I.e Travis, Tronstadt, Brittain, how they coming along?

Edited April 29 by Mattyblue

[JHRover]

Waggott and his low hanging fruit again. No problem doing the easy and cheap ones where the players will be delighted to get an extra year in the Championship, but total silence and excuses on the ones that rightly expect long term decent deals and can simply move elsewhere.

Always the cheap and easy route with this lot. Anything complex, difficult, expensive or requiring serious commitment from the club's side - forget it.

[davulsukur]

10 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

From listening to Elliott Jackson's LT podcast that Rovers will offer Forshaw a new contract and Ismael wants to keep him

Really? 

Seems like a waste of wage budget to me.

He's not been as bad as we expected him to be in fairness and I can only assume his only role would be coming on to see a game out. It's also the classic "pathway blocker" for Montgomery, who's main position is centre mid.

[chaddyrovers]

10 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Really? 

Seems like a waste of wage budget to me.

He's not been as bad as we expected him to be in fairness and I can only assume his only role would be coming on to see a game out. It's also the classic "pathway blocker" for Montgomery, who's main position is centre mid.

That what Elliott said on the podcast

[roversfan99]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

That what Elliott said on the podcast

Would you be for or against renewing his deal?

[MarkBRFC]

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25233718.brittain-sends-clear-blackburn-message-amid-contract-talks/

Elliot still trying to peddle that Brittain contract talks are "ongoing" with an absolute nothing story about him and his misses appearing on some netball show on Sky.

Also a reminder that we haven't renewed any first team player contracts since 8th December 2023, just over 18 months ago.

Edited yesterday at 11:16 by MarkBRFC

[roversfan99]

Chaddy will be straight in to remind you of Ribeiro, a player who we only signed a couple of months prior. 

Its an absolute joke. The excuse they always use mid season is that they dont want to do it in case we change division, or to not distract the player. Mid season is the opportune time to do it when you arent focusing on bringing in new players.

Now we are left in a position where we have to simultaneously bring in new players and try to sign our best players on new contracts. These players havent even been offered new deals which suggests that there is no appetite within because these are players who can justify competitive Championship players.

[Mattyblue]

No issue (briefly) in signing players up when Gregg the Egg was here. There’s ‘no money left’ is the start and end to it.

[Tomphil2]

Even if Broughton was still here and on the case i don't think it would make much difference because they'd do the same to him as they do to all new managers, head coaches etc.

Show the dog the rabbit and allow them a couple of quid to invest then slam the door shut and say you're on your own we have our own problems to deal with.

In fact they did that to him.

Same will happen with Gestede and Ismael they'll get a couple of million at very best - including wages - to spend. A player will be sold from under them at some point alongside several other departures then next time they go asking for money they'll be blanked.

Rinse and repeat.

[Mattyblue]

No Im not saying he was some contractual guru, he just happened to be in situ at the time when funds were available, they now aren’t and that’s that.

 

[Tomphil2]

He was pro active at least and a contrast to virtually everything under Venkys, Suhail and Waggot were react when you've carelessly let a situation develop was the order of the day'

Or in other words do nowt unless you have to.

[roversfan99]

Another piece about contracts in the LT.

Lots of speculation about being willing to stay but crucially on Travis and seemingly Tronstad, they havent still yet received an actual contract offer. 

Being in talks, willing to stay, representatives doing this and that, its easy to move away from the fact that theyve either signed a new deal or not.

[47er]

Travis/Tronstadt----crucial if we are to do anything next season. Not possible we could replace them like for like.

Unfortunately I think they're also crucial to Venkys funding plans ( such as they are).